As long as it isn't a Democrat. As a conservative I've had to fight the urge to projectile vomit every time George Bush makes a decision, but it is still better than a Democrat in office.
I don't care who wins it but I don't think I'd like the idea of Obama winning it...
Better than Hillary? Yes I agree. Better than Clinton or Carter? No, you are dead wrong about that.
Show me some proof that Bush is better than either Clinton or Carter?
And Bush is a neo-conservative. Neo-conservatives are former liberals and socialists. They aren't true conservatives and they run the Republican Party. McCain is a neo-conservative. Allen is a neo-conservative. Cheney is a neo-conservative. Have a neo-conservative in office and there won't be an America. There will be a civil war with al-queda, Iran, Venezuela, and Syria choosing sides. If we have another neo-conservative in office, we are going to be having a war with Iran. There is no doubt about it and the result will be gas prices going over five dollars. No middle or lower-class American (over 80% of Americans) are going to like that idea. That is enough to bring out a civil war. And do you think we can survive another Civil War with hostile outside forces coming in at the same time? And it might even go beyond just a Civil War. We might even have an actual nuclear holocaust. I know you christians really want Jesus to return to Earth. But bringing forth an actual end of days won't make him happy. You might have the return of Jesus, but he is going to be furious. And like the fury of god, you won't be going to heaven soon after. God doesn't reward those who sin.
Romney and Guiliani are your only choices and they are both not what you would have expected. Guiliani is an Italian Catholic that supports liberal ideology. He is a liberal republican. Romney is almost the same and he is a Mormon.
As a christian conservative, could you honestly say you would support having a catholic or a mormon in office that supports liberal ideology?
Forget about McCain, he was gone from the start.
The only two people besides Hagel that can get the world back on the right track is Edwards and Obama. The reason why I say Hagel is because he is the only Republican that has courage and intelligence.
I agree if it was about Obama suddenly turning to presidency right after becoming a Senator. It seems very Anti-Christ like material in terms of gaining power. But it might just be a coincidence.
But Obama is concentrating on domestic issues and that is something America has been neglecting. No matter how you like Obama, he still is a better president for the United States than most current contenders. Edwards is the only person (besides Hagel of course) that could be a better presidential candidate and a better future president.
Actually Fred Thompson is my first choice.
Guilliani being the second.
As for "neo-cons", that is an overused word that has little meaning these days.
Most of the true neo-conservatives in the Bush administration have already left.
Douglas Fythe, Richard Pearle, David Frum, etc. My favorite neo-conservative author, Fukayama, has changed his tune on foreign policy. For all intents and purposes, the neo-conservative agenda is history.
As for being Christian, that really doesn't factor in much with my choice for president.
We live in a secular republic, and I choose based on who I believe will do the best job at running and improving the republic.
I would like McCain but Giulianni seems alot more likely
I think that no matter who the democrats nominate, it will be difficult to find any body who will not pull more votes than any republican. they are really going to have scrap the bottom of the barrel if they are going to loose this election.
So you are saying that though Bush is one aweful president that is very much unpopular it won't effect the outcome of votes in his political party?
I don't think most Americans follow the political line base on candidates really so much.
The people who vote for the president are the electors assigned by the political party and sometimes they swing either way.
You could have people New York all vote for Edwards or Obama and yet their electors would all vote for Romney or Guiliani. This could also go vice versa and it is why I hate presidential politics. Who cares if the person is or isn't popular, the electors are still the ones that decide.
So you are saying that though Bush is one aweful president that is very much unpopular it won't effect the outcome of votes in his political party?
I don't think most Americans follow the political line base on candidates really so much.
The people who vote for the president are the electors assigned by the political party and sometimes they swing either way.
You could have people New York all vote for Edwards or Obama and yet their electors would all vote for Romney or Guiliani. This could also go vice versa and it is why I hate presidential politics. Who cares if the person is or isn't popular, the electors are still the ones that decide.
Do you know that last time electors went against the popular vote? It was in 1876.
Bush is a Republican. that is why I said the Democrats could nominate almost anybody and win. The republican party is not very popular right now.
The people elect the electors, not the party. The Electors are not tied to any party but as a rule they will vote along with the Majority vote in the state they are elected from. It is possible for a candidate to get the majority of the popular vote but loose in the electorial votes. The states with the most electorial votes could have a small voter turn out and the candidate would win them but even if he won the smaller states with a huge majority, he would not have the electorial votes to carry the election..
If a candidate can carry the states of California, Texas, New York and Florida that would give him just about enough ectorial votes to win the Election, no matter how the rest of the Nation votes.
This link may help explain. It is a confusing system.
http://electoral-vote.com/
Since none of them are ruling by what Allah has ordained, what difference does it really make?
Since none of them are ruling by what Allah has ordained, what difference does it really make?
completely agree, useless thread
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.