Why are christians and Jews close minded?

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Alcohol has a direct toxic, as well as sedative effect on the body. It affects principally the frontal lobe of the brain, which houses the mechanisms for reason, judgment and willpower.

Alcohol has been the scourge of human society since time immemorial. It's earning a lot of money yearly and taking million human lives. Alcohol is the root cause of several problems facing society. Many Crimes are taken place for Alcoholic people. It causes many physical problems including mental illness, short-term memory loss, reduces performance. Its also a known fact that alcohol has been one of the world's greatest destroyers. Its terrible violent consequences are felt all over the world.

Prohibition of alcohol in the Bible:
Some Bible quotations:

Proverbs 20:1
Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.

Proverb 23:20-21
Be not among winebibbers; among riotous eaters of flesh: For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty: and drowsiness shall clothe a man with rags.

Proverbs 23:30
They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.
Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.
At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.

Proverbs 31:4-7
It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink:
Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted.
Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.
Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.
[So drink affects ones judgments and causes to die.]

Leviticus 10:9-11
Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations:

And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean; And that ye may teach the children of Israel all the statutes which the LORD hath spoken unto them by the hand of Moses.

Luke 21:34-38
And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

1 Corinthians 5:11
But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

1 Corinthians 6:10
Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

There are total 75 verses on Bible where Alcohol is prohibited.
 
Christians consider Jesus as god.

Would god really promote a type drink which is deadly and has extremely negative direct impacts on millions and millions of life and many more lives indirectly?

something to ponder for christians, that is if they are honest with themselves
 
In my opinion, christians have always outright changed their scriptures or misinterpretate them in order to justify their lifestyles, starting from Paul who wrote things to make jesus teachings' more palatable to the pagan latins/romans who worshiped multiple gods to these days where homosexuality is considered acceptable by churches.
 
I think YHWH encourages the responsible use of all the good things He gives us, as I described previously (that is certainly what the Bible teaches).
 
Suzeteo said:
I think YHWH encourages the responsible use of all the good things He gives us, as I described previously (that is certainly what the Bible teaches).
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Are you against getting drunk during holidays? New Year's eve? May Day? Midsummer's Day?
 
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what do you christians like about alcohol?

is it the taste, or is it because it has the alcohol that you want?
 
MrKhan89 said:
what do you christians like about alcohol?

is it the taste, or is it because it has the alcohol that you want?
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people who drink alcohol like them because it gives them the "buzz", and the buzz is the effect of alcohol in the bloodstreams;

same thing as people who like ingesting drugs because it gives them the "high"
 
In my very humble opinion, this kind of threads leads us nowhere. It widens the gap between religions and we need instead to build bridges towards Islam.

I think that it's a human sign when people are close-minded and it's in no way related to religion.

Peace

Nahla
 
Aslaamu`Alaayum

Is Alcohol permitted in Christianity even? I didnt think it would be but i dunoo
I doubt 100% Jesus peace be upon him drank Alcohol!

According to these verses below its forbidden

"wine is a mocker, intoxicating drink arouses brawling" (Proverbs 20:1).
"Woe to him who gives drink to his neighbor, pressing him to your bottle, even to make him drunk" (Habakkuk 2:15).
"Another interesting verse i found Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."[Corrinthians chapter 6 verse 9-10]


I think thats enough and im not trying to promote Christianity but to try and prove drinking Alcohol is forbidden in Christianity however there may be a verse which promotes Drinking in the bible but if so then the bible Contradicts itself SubhaanAllaah

But however Bible does promote Drinking
"Go, eat your food with gladness, and drink your wine with a joyful heart, for it is now that God favors what you do. 8 Always be clothed in white, and always anoint your head with oil. 9 Enjoy life with your wife, whom you love, all the days of this meaningless life that God has given you under the sun— all your meaningless days. For this is your lot in life and in your toilsome labor under the sun. 10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the grave, [c] where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom. "[Ecclesiastes 9:1-13]

"Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit"[Ephesians 5:18]

But on the other hand it promotes Christianity like the verse above, but forbids you to become drunken so this basically Contradicsts itself , so im in doubt i dont know whether the Bible Allows or forbids Alcohol or maybe i understood it all wrong InshaAllaah a well knowledgeable Christian can answer this i would be grateful Jazakallahu Khaayran

Sorry thread starter if i went off topic

back on topic
I find it funny well pretty much disturbing that people try to prove that Jesus the Prophet of Allaah and according to Christians their God (May God forbid) drinks Alcohol! InshaAllaah theres enough proof out there Alcohol is harmful! im not going to post any Evidence of that Indeed!

Wa `Alaaykum Salaam
 
мυѕℓιмαн 4 ℓιfє;1354841 said:
Aslaamu`Alaayum

I find it funny well pretty much disturbing that people try to prove that Jesus the Prophet of Allaah and according to Christians their God (May God forbid) drinks Alcohol! InshaAllaah theres enough proof out there Alcohol is harmful! im not going to post any Evidence of that Indeed!
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I've been taught about the harmful effects of alcohol from elementary school onward repeatedly, let alone the experienced visitors lecturing us about alcohol, and schoolbooks. It's kind of funny now you hear it's safe to drink it "as long as not excessive". I wonder why didn't they tell us this then? Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) is definitely above that.
 
بسم الله الرحمان الرحيم

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله

الحمد الله


There's an interesting video on those bad and foolish things (drugs, alcohol and cig's)


And this is the site of the Sister http://alyanuri.com/products.php and the great thing is, she is ten masha'allah :) She is the author of Things Every Kid Should Know books :D
 
^MashaAllaah Jazakallahu Khaayr for sharing
And she was 8 i believe when she started SubhaanAllaah, such an Inspiration for OLDER people to learn from InshaAllaah and for everyone not just Muslims much like Islaam , Islaam was sent for Everyone! Whole of Mankind!
 
But as a Christian or Athiest?

Obviously must be a reason, and you said said "Drunk" not that your against drinking!
 
мυѕℓιмαн 4 ℓιfє;1354906 said:
But as a Christian or Athiest?

Obviously must be a reason, and you said said "Drunk" not that your against drinking!
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As I've said in pretty much all of my posts, I take the position that:
  • there is nothing intrinsically wrong with drinking alcohol, in fact it is a gift from YHWH;
  • drinking irresponsibly (including getting drunk and drinking in excess of healthy limits) is sinful;
  • the above are taught consistently in the Bible.
 
it is wrong to drink alcohol period, you do know that if you drink alcohol moderately everyday, that basically means you are actually drinking it excessively, drinking alcohol moderately once a day is still bad for you.

when prophet jesus (pbuh) comes back, alcohol is going to be gone forever and so will pork.

i bet a lot of christians will cry when that happens lol
 

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