Why are there so many non-Muslims here?

For non muslims,why do u join Islamic forums?

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Greetings,
glo said:
To be honest, I seem to remember more non-Muslims being members here in the past - and people from many different religions and beliefs. Sadly many have left.
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Many of them were banned.

Peace
 
^ they will not be banned for no reasons !!!
*this is IF they ALL really banned*
 
islamlover_girl said:
Just wonder why non muslims join islamic forums ?

And did joining it benefit u?
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I joined to learn more about Islam but not just that I want to learn about the views of Muslims on certain issues and how reconcile certain things and I am not going to learn those things from non-Muslims.

And has it benefited me – I have learned a lot but for every question that is answered it throws up two more questions.

“So many non-Muslims here?” I wonder how many non-Muslim members there are, to me it appears that there are very few which is a shame?
 
czgibson said:
Greetings,


Many of them were banned.

Peace
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Hello,

I would say banning should be a last resort if people do not follow the guidelines of the forum. Another thing to note is that I have seen a huge thread about those who have not posted for a while so I think part of it is natural; ups and downs ...

Regards.
 
Non-Muslims are here becuase Allah has guided them here, I am guilty of as are many others of being very abrupt with them. I ask Allahs forgiveness for this, this is probably their chance to embrace Islam and it is the Muslims in here duty to nurture this chance. Peace to all non-Muslims and Allahs blessings upon the Muslims who are patient with the non-Muslims
 
After reading the Qur’an for the first time some 9 years ago, it appeared to me as if there was harmony between the Bible and the Qur’an without compromising the teachings of either book. Today, I am more convinced of this, and I am here to encourage Muslims and Christians to re-examine the evidence, because the Bible and the Qur'an are both right.
 
Grenville said:
After reading the Qur’an for the first time some 9 years ago, it appeared to me as if there was harmony between the Bible and the Qur’an without compromising the teachings of either book. Today, I am more convinced of this, and I am here to encourage Muslims and Christians to re-examine the evidence, because the Bible and the Qur'an are both right.
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I'd love to hear how you can arrive at that conclusion.
(Perhaps not in this thread but in another one, or via PM?)

God bless :)

Edit:
Grenville, I came across your other thread, in which you talk about this in more depth. I will go there and read, rather than derail this thread here.
Peace
 
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I joined this forum after being provided the link from a Muslim poster on a Christian forum. Islam has been intriguing to me for some time especially after 9/11 when it was placed into media focus. It really started to hit home during the 2008 Presidential Election when President Obama was being depicted as a Muslim. His opposition would state Islam is evil, therefor Muslims are evil, therefor no Muslim should be President and continued to slap that image on him as slander. This really upset me, especially when I saw members of my own extended family take up this cause of false lies wrongfully depicting Muslims and Islam. The nail that sealed the coffin for me was witnessing about 6 months of continued slander towards Islam on Christian and Catholic forums within this last year. I finally realized I couldn't be a Christian (especially since I don't believe in the Trinity) and started to investigate Islam. Whether or not I decide to take the next step and become Muslim I wanted to find an environment I could ask questions and be provided answers that were not linked to anti-Islamic sites.
 
I voted for Just interested to know how others think and what do they belive in.

which i think is great especially if your curious about something, i'd do the samething for another belief if i was curious and wanted to know more about.
 
islamlover_girl said:
Grace seeker : :( I hope we will benefit u more in the future ISA.
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It would be simple, but I don't expect it to happen. I wanted to be able to tell my Christian friends that were complaining that Muslims never spoke out against terrorism that was done in the name of Allah, that they were just listening to the wrong sources. That if they only listened to places like FOX news or CNN that they would not be giving Muslims a fair shake. That Muslims were indeed speaking out against such things, but among themselves, just not in the international press. And that even if a few reporters could find jihadist websites and bloggers that were attempting to incite violence against the west simply for being the west that these were voices that got relatively little hearing on the international scene and had little reception amongst the Ummah in general.

Well, what I found out here was that while most Muslims are indeed peace loving. That few would go on record as publically condemning any other Muslim for their actions no matter how heinous the acts might be. That was several years ago. Fortunately that has changed some what in just the last few months. But I just posted a thread in world events regarding the Somali pirates. I did not mention anything about religion there, and I do not think that it is a part of the issues involved. But I've spent enough time here to predict that there will be some who speak in their defense and make the US the bad guy and cast it as part of a war against Islam. (I sincerely hope I am wrong in that predication.) For reasons that are probably too deep for me to ever fully appreciate, there is definitely a latent hostility within Islam toward Christianity, the USA, and all things western.


That doesn't mean that I haven't benefited and learned much from being here. I have. And I do enjoy the vast majority of people I have met here. Indeed, I would say that Christians are received with more warmth here than are Muslims on some of the Christian forums I have been on. That is sad, but I admit it is true. Nevertheless, in answer to the specific question did I find what I was looking for when I came here, the answer is no, for the reasons I gave above. I have found other things that I appreciate and reasons to stay, however. And I am glad that LI is here for that reason, even if not for the original reason that I came.
 
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Grace Seeker said:
It would be simple, but I don't expect it to happen. I wanted to be able to tell my Christian friends that were complaining that Muslims never spoke out against terrorism that was done in the name of Allah, that they were just listening to the wrong sources. That if they only listened to places like FOX news or CNN that they would not be giving Muslims a fair shake. That Muslims were indeed speaking out against such things, but among themselves, just not in the international press. And that even if a few reporters could find jihadist websites and bloggers that were attempting to incite violence against the west simply for being the west that these were voices that got relatively little hearing on the international scene and had little reception amongst the Ummah in general.

Well, what I found out here was that while most Muslims are indeed peace loving. That few would go on record as publically condemning any other Muslim for their actions no matter how heinous the acts might be. That was several years ago. Fortunately that has changed some what in just the last few months. But I just posted a thread in world events regarding the Somali pirates. I did not mention anything about religion there, and I do not think that it is a part of the issues involved. But I've spent enough time here to predict that there will be some who speak in their defense and make the US the bad guy and cast it as part of a war against Islam. (I sincerely hope I am wrong in that predication.) For reasons that are probably too deep for me to ever fully appreciate, there is definitely a latent hostility within Islam toward Christianity, the USA, and all things western.
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if I understood u right then u would like this links in shaa Allah:

http://www.islamdenouncesterrorism.com/mainarticle.html
http://www.blogtoplist.com/religion/blogdetails-5003.html
http://ipaki.com/content/html/27/315.html

I know that we have to do extremly more efforts to help west to understand us and listen to real islam not just for Islam enemies,that makes me really feel bad.
 
I like learning about religion and some one who was really important was a Muslim so I started learning about Islam and Muslims. I have so far enjoyed my time talking with Muslims.
 
islamlover_girl said:
if I understood u right then u would like this links in shaa Allah:

http://www.islamdenouncesterrorism.com/mainarticle.html
http://www.blogtoplist.com/religion/blogdetails-5003.html
http://ipaki.com/content/html/27/315.html

I know that we have to do extremly more efforts to help west to understand us and listen to real islam not just for Islam enemies,that makes me really feel bad.
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Dear Islamlover-girl:

Former US president, Jimmy Carter, noted that Islamic leaders would privately encourage his peace efforts, but publically say something completely contrary to the Muslim masses. Do you have any links to popular web-sites in the Middle East, and in Arabic, condemning terrorist actions that harm civilians?

Regards.
 
Grenville said:
Dear Islamlover-girl:

Former US president, Jimmy Carter, noted that Islamic leaders would privately encourage his peace efforts, but publically say something completely contrary to the Muslim masses. Do you have any links to popular web-sites in the Middle East, and in Arabic, condemning terrorist actions that harm civilians?

Regards.
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http://www.fatwaislam.com/fis/index.cfm?scn=fd&ID=526
http://www.fatwaislam.com/fis/index.cfm?scn=fd&ID=525
http://whyislam.org/SocialOrder/BrochureIslamonTerrorism/tabid/125/Default.aspx
try this then read this

it is not possible to call the killing of unarmed innocent Muslim villagers Jihaad. A Muslim--even while in Jihaad to establish the word of Allaah and in battle with the armies which stand to stop the spread of the word of Allaah--is absolutely not permitted to mutilate the dead; nor to kill a child; nor to kill a woman unless she bears weapons; nor to burn anyone with fire
If any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people - Quran 5:32
Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. - Quran 2:190
the instructions of the Prophet are as follows:
"Do not kill any old person, any child or any woman" (Abu Dawud). "Do not kill the monks in monasteries" or "Do not kill the people who are sitting in places of worship" (Musnad of Ibn Hanbal).
It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah said: Do not desire an encounter with the enemy; but when you encounter them, be firm. - Muslim Book 019, Number 4313
It is narrated on the authority of 'Abdullah that a woman was found killed in one of the battles fought by the Messenger of Allah . He disapproved of the killing of women and children. - Muslim Book 019, Number 4319
Abu Bakr , the first caliph or successor to Prophet Mohammed established a detailed set of rules for Islamic conduct in war. He gave these instructions to an Islamic army setting out for Syria, then still part of the Byzantine Empire:
"Stop, O people, that I may give you ten rules for your guidance in the battlefield. Do not commit treachery or deviate from the right path. You must not mutilate dead bodies. Neither kill a child, nor a woman, nor an aged man. Bring no harm to the trees, nor burn them with fire, especially those which are fruitful. Slay not any of the enemy's flock, save for your food. You are likely to pass by people who have devoted their lives to monastic services; leave them alone"
I think this are better then a site this are the Allah and his Messenger
:D hope it answered your Question
 
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Grenville said:
Dear Islamlover-girl:

Former US president, Jimmy Carter, noted that Islamic leaders would privately encourage his peace efforts, but publically say something completely contrary to the Muslim masses. Do you have any links to popular web-sites in the Middle East, and in Arabic, condemning terrorist actions that harm civilians?

Regards.
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ur words made me feel how far people in the west don`t know the reality about us :(
First here is the links u asked for :
http://www.alriyadh.com/2005/02/24/article41881.html
http://www.ibnalislam.com/vb/showthread.php?t=4266
http://www.saaid.net/Doat/alharfi/6.htm
http://www.islamway.com/?iw_s=Lesson&iw_a=view&lesson_id=546
http://www.islamtoday.net/bohooth/artshow-32-110618.htm

if u need more links just google the word (الاسلام والارهاب) which is an arabic phrase means Islam and terrorism ,then u will find hundreds of arabic links which condemn terrorist confirming that there isn`t any relation between islam and terrorism and that just islam enemies promote to this .I know there might be a problem in language if u don`t know any arabic but I think u can get an arabic translator ,if u really want to know the truth u have to do some effort.

something I am carious to know, how did peoples in west believe that islam accepts terrorist ,while Islam is a religon from God just like christinity ,so how did u imagine that God do that.

I live in an Islamic country ,I met thousounds of muslims in my life , but I never met a muslim who accept harming non muslim ,and I never hear a muslim scholar encourging or accepting terrorism . it`s very clear in quran and hadiths that harming a civil ,terrorism acts is extremly forbiden in Islam and any muslim knows about that.
 

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