Why Bother At All ?!!

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^ Maybe that isn't their fault. The shaytaan lures them to music.

 

[Umar001]

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^ Maybe that isn't their fault. The shaytaan lures them to music.

Wa Alaykum Salam Wa Rahmatullahi Wa barakatu,

You've answered it sis.

The depression that we face is not always our problem, I mean, it is not that we ask for depression, there are great du'a for grief/drepession/anxiety.

I have been through it and I still kinda go through it, but you have to realise who it is wispering. Sometimes it can be our lazyness, other times we put ourselvs in situations where shaytan can wispher stronger (eg being alone)

Shaytan wants you to feel anger/depression confusion. Repel him insha'Allah and be patient?

 

[cute123]

they use a word "Learned-Helplessness" for "Depression".
When we want something but don't seem to get it, still want it without success, repeat our desire for that again & again in our heart but don't achieve it. These repeated series of failures of our "wish" leads our subconscious to believe that there's no use of making efforts for things, so our mind generalise it to all our affairs & that results in symptoms of depression.


P.S:Learned-Helplessness = They experimented by rendering a mouse immovable & gave it electric shocks repeatedly. First it tried to run but since it was trapped so couldn't move a bit. With repeated shocks it's attempts grew weaker & ultimately mouse stopped responding to shocks. i.e., mouse went into depression. "Why bother when nothing works"


because [Q:70:19] Truly man was created very impatient...

Gr8 Anwer ! its like u put into words what i felt for a long time

 

[cute123]

Re: Advice for sister Ahlaam

Regarding her thread

Salaam


The Perfect Believer
Imam Ibn ul Jawzee

Translated from Sayd ul-Khatir, p. 364
Publ. by Dar Al Yaqeen


The believer is not one who performs the ordained religious duties superficially and avoids what is forbidden only, but he is one whose faith is absolute, with no objection whatsoever arising in his heart and no obsession dwelling in his soul. The more hardships he faces, the more his faith grows and the more his submission strengthens.

He could pray and not see a trace of an answer to his prayers, yet he does not change because he knows that he is owned by One who deals with him in whatever way He chooses. For if an objection was to arise in his heart, he then forsakes the role of the slave and takes on the role of a protester such as that of Iblees (the devil).

A strong faith unveils itself in strong hardships.
A believer sees in Yahya, son of Zakariyya, a fine example. He was killed by a tyrant who confronted him, yet He (subhanahu wa ta`ala), who made him a prophet, did not intervene nor defend him.

Similarly all the tyranny that befell the prophets and the believers was not held back from them. If one goes to think that Divinity cannot answer for them then one is an unbeliever. However if one believes that Divinity can answer for them but chooses not to, and that God (subhanahu wa ta`ala) can make the believers go hungry while infidels are full and inflict the believers with sickness and grant the infidels health, then one is only left with submission to the Owner even when tormented or scorched.

Ya'qoob cried for eighty years when Yusuf son of Ya'qoob (peace be upon him) was gone, he never gave up; all he said when his other son was gone too is "May God bring all of them back to me".

Moses (peace be upon him) prayed against Pharaoh, who killed children and crucified magicians and cut their hands, for 40 years before he was answered.

In such submission the intense of one's strong faith is manifested not in mere rak`at (bowings in prayer).

So many of those who glorify Qadar were afflicted with tribulations and this did not increase them except in submission and pleasure (with their Lord), and there lies an explanation of the meaning of His words, "Allah is pleased with them" (Qur'an, 5:119 and elsewhere).

Al-Hasan Al-Basree said: "People are the same in health but when hardship befalls they show distinction."

Gr8 post - Jazakallah Khair

 

[Ghira]

To answer the question why does a person get depressed/sad if he/she cannot be with someone they love...I think it is just part of human psyche that cannot be changed and more people are vulnerable than others. The best question to ask is how to cope with this feeling and have positive feelings of patience, hope, gratitude. It would be easy to just ask why me but hard for someone to take effort and do things to enhance character. I think only during tough times strong character is strenghtened and real character is seen by others, as said earlier.

I maybe mistaken but you are using a strong word (depressed) maybe you mean a serious phase of being sad. Depression is a serious ailment that can impair a person's daily function in life. Practicing Muslims can experience this and non-Muslims. It depends on how long it lasts, how the person copes with it, and how much it harms his/her daily life. Some people may go into major feeling of feeling extremely sad. They are not necessarily depressed they are feeling miserable but if this feeling continues for 6+ months straight, the person cannot speak to others, cannot go to work consistently, always low energy/sleepy, and feels all alone, that is a case of depression. It needs to be treated by a trained professional.

In terms of periods of feeling sad, even The Prophet (saw) felt this at times and he handled the situation perfectly. Remember the time when he (saw) was stoned by the mentally ill children of a town because he was spreading the word of Worship One God. That was the most difficult time for him. How did he (saw) cope? He turned to Allah (swt) as a servant should and said this dua

O Allah! I complain to You of my weakness, my scarcity of resources and my humiliation before the people. O Most Merciful of those who are merciful. O Lord of the weak and my Lord too. To whom have you entrusted me? To a distant person who receives me with hostility? Or to an enemy to whom you have granted authority over my affair? So long as You are not angry with me, I do not care. Your favour is of more abundance to me. I seek refuge in the light of Your Face by which all darkness is dispelled and every affair of this world and the next is set right, lest Your anger or your displeasure descend upon me. I desire your pleasure and satisfaction until you are pleased. There is no power and no might except by You.

What an amazing dua!!! SubhanAllah. We don't just see that in this example there are countless examples where he just goes to Allah (swt) in rememberance and communites perfectly with The Creator. He taught us tools to use to give us peace, such as words of "Indeed to Allah we belong, and Indeed to him we shall return." He taught us how we should speak and always be connected to The Giver of all bounties without measure, Allah (swt).

Those who wish to follow his way may do so and will benefit from the fruits of Imaan and Islaam. Those who don't it is their loss.

Read this Ayah. Tell us what you think...
"Do men think that they will be left alone on saying, "We believe," and that they will not be tested? We did test those before them, and Allah will certainly know those who are sincere from those who are liars." (Al-`Ankabut 29:1–2)

Also read this please
http://www.readingislam.com/servlet...kAboutIslamE/AskAboutIslamE&cid=1168265783425

 

[glo]

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^ Maybe that isn't their fault. The shaytaan lures them to music.

Hi, AhLÄÄM

I am writing this from a Christian perspective ... so please use your own discretion as to how useful you find it.

It is very much part of Christian thinking that we are unable to follow God's commands, no matter how hard we try.
It is inevitable that we stumble and fall from time to time. The most important part is to pick ourselves up again, and to continue to strive in our walk with God.

We all have particular weaknesses in our lives, areas in which we wish we could be better/more obedient/less sinful (I could name you a few of my own :-[)
Those are the areas in which we stumble again and again, in which we pray for guidance again and again ... and sometimes guidance doesn't seem to come, and we are left with the feeling of 'Why bother ...?'

You see, Christianity teaches that we cannot succeed in our own strength at all.
We can only do it by pushing deeper into God's will, by depending more on his strength, and by surrendering ourselves more to him.
So that feeling of 'Why bother? I cannot do it!' is often an important step in recognising our own weakness.
The next step should be to give it over to God, and to trust ourselves to him.

We cannot do it, but God certainly can!

Peace

 

[.: Jannati :.]

no one ever said the road to jannah was easy, tings will happen, but life goes on, one way or another Allah does answer our duaas we've just gotto keep that trust up and leave it up to Allah to bless us in the situations we are in.

mA. theres wikked advice/answers on this thread.