Why celebrate christmas?

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Woodrow said:
I guess if you are going to have a Turkish Bishop, with Druid and Greek Mythological charecteristics, riding in a sleigh of Dutch design and being pulled by Finnish reindeer with German names (Except Rudolph which is Russian), you might just as well let the reindeer fly.
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Strangely, the reindeer do not appear in the German Christmas tradition at all - at least not to my knowledge. I wonder where the German names came from ...? :?
 
MTAFFI said:
i know right, what is everyones problem? And you know what else, no one has even mentioned Santas elves!!! :heated: I guess we will just deny them too, just because they are little people doesnt mean they dont deserve the same recognition as everyone else:happy: :happy:
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Santa exploits the vertically challenged! :p
 
For those who take this part of the discussion seriously, the invention of the flying reindeer and their names are both part of the now famous poem 'Twas The Night Before Christmas who the author was is disputed with tradition giving credit to Clement Clarke Moore and others believing that the original author was Henry Livingstone, Jr. If you believe that Livingstone was the author then we have an answer to where the reindeer's names came from: The names of the reindeer were those of the horses in Livingston's stable!
 
SirDemonic said:
myths? nope santa claus was 1st originally some kind green enviromentlist or sumat, coca cola changed it to advertise was hit lol
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Where did these images of Santa, some in red, some in other colors, come from that are found on these antique postcards that pre-Coca Cola in origin?

Antique postcards of Santa, including some in a red suit.


Where did the red fur-lined outfit come from? We don't really know!

But we do know that it was known in 1927, as The New York Times reported on 27 November 1927:
A standardized Santa Claus appears to New York children. Height, weight, stature are almost exactly standardized, as are the red garments, the hood and the white whiskers. The pack full of toys, ruddy cheeks and nose, bushy eyebrows and a jolly, paunchy effect are also inevitable parts of the requisite make-up.
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Standardized in 1927, at least for the city of New York. So it was NOT created by the Coca-Cola company. But, they sure made this version spread fast!
 
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Jesus (alayhi salam) and X-mas!

What's wrong with celebrating the Prophet, JESUS CHRIST? Do Muslims not celebrate the Prophet's b-day?

I was asked this question... WHy if Muslims honor the Prophet, Jesus, and recognize him as they claim, then why not celebrate him like you do the Prophet Muhammad?
 
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al-fateh said:
What's wrong with celebrating the Prophet, JESUS CHRIST? Do Muslims not celebrate the Prophet's b-day?

I was asked this question... WHy if Muslims honor the Prophet, Jesus, and recognize him as they claim, then why not celebrate him like you do the Prophet Muhammad?
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Perhaps you are asking the wrong question. Maybe the question should be why do some Muslims celebrate the Prophet's(PBUH) birthday?
 
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I may be nitpicking here, and it would be interesting to hear the views of other Christians members here, but I have never really thought of Christmas as a celebration of Jesus' birthday.
After all, as we have established in other threads, nobody knows when exactly Jesus was born ... so how can we celebrate his birthday?

Instead it is a day set aside to think about the miraculous event of his conception and the amazing story of his birth!
Of course the meaning goes deeper for Christians, but why should Muslims not be at ease about remembering and honouring Isa (pbuh)? :?

Peace
 
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glo said:
Instead it is a day set aside to think about the miraculous event of his conception and the amazing story of his birth!
Of course the meaning goes deeper for Christians, but why should Muslims not be at ease about remembering and honouring Isa (pbuh)? :?
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But Christmas is not about Jesus the "prophet", it is about Jesus the "Son of God", Jesus the "Saviour"... I thought that would have been obvious enough. :?

We honour and remember Jesus in our own way, not by borrowing innovated holidays from other religions. Not to mention, why only Jesus? If we start remember Jesus only on a special day, we should also remember the other prophets because Jesus is not better than them, they are all the Messengers of God.

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On Christmas I don't think December 25th, the day Christ was born. I think of it like Glo mentioned in a previous post. As a celebration of Christ's birth and all that Christ means to Christians as a whole.
 
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25th december can't be Jusus Christ birthday,when he was going to be born Allah told hazrat maryam to eat fresh dates and fresh dates do not come in winter
 
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^Yes, surat Maryam. Um, at the moment, I expect part of the world is in winter and the other part is in summer and maybe some of them are in between. Er so I dont know if the december=winter thing holds. Regardless, the christians have already said that it isnt the real date.
 
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Assalamoalaikum,
Christmas isnt just about celebrating Christ's birthday. The concept behind christmas on the 25th of Dec is that it was actually a pagan event and has been assimilated into the christian belief. Hence it is not actually christ's birthday. Secondly even if christ was born on this day, we dont celebrate his birthday since we are not even allowed to clebrate prophet Mohammad's birthday. Thirdly even if we were even to celebrate birthdays then the christian belief about 25th Dec is that ' Christ, the son of God ' (Astaghfirullah) was born on this day, or something of the sort on this day. Hence i do agree with the scholarly opinion that it is blasphemy for Muslims to join together with christians on this day.
 
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Keltoi said:
On Christmas I don't think December 25th, the day Christ was born. I think of it like Glo mentioned in a previous post. As a celebration of Christ's birth and all that Christ means to Christians as a whole.
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Is this your personally view? or is this...what most Christians think?

Do you have any sources telling us ...what is christmas is all about?

Do christians perform any kind of religious activity during the Christmas?
 
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syilla said:
Is this your personally view? or is this...what most Christians think?

Do you have any sources telling us ...what is christmas is all about?

Do christians perform any kind of religious activity during the Christmas?
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Greetings, Syilla

You may find some answers to your questions here:
http://www.islamicboard.com/comparative-religion/33611-why-celebrate-christmas.html
Although the thread is largely about why we celebrate Christmas, it also touches on how people celebrate it.

Hope this helps :)

peace
 
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Assalamoalaikum,
I cant provide u any direct links but i have read Dr. Zakir Naik and Dr. Ameenah Phillips saying this. That is why i said i agree with this scholarly view.
 
Christmas origins

As the origins of many of the things associated with Chrsitmas became a "hot topic" on another thread, I thought I would start this one for those who wanted to further explore them.

This link to Christian History e-magazine will connect you with a whole list of items, some associated with the religious aspect of the holiday, some expressions of the secular nature that has become a modern part of it, and some that are ancient but now forgotten practices. As the article says: "Who was the real Santa Claus? Where did Christmas trees come from? How have Christians traditionally observed Advent? What should we think about Mary? Find out more in this special section.
 
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