Why Christianity is False

[czgibson]

Re: Why Christianity is Fake

Greetings,

The Prophet Muhammad (S) was born in a Saudi Arabia that had no idea about science whatsoever. There were so many false ideas that these arabs believed in at that time. Now do you really think that the Prophet Muhammad S picked and chose which facts he thought were right and which he thought were wrong and put the right ones in the Quran. In 600 Ad in Saudi Arabia I bet there were so many different theories on what humans were made of. Do you really think that Muhammad (S) ascertained the right theory and had enough faith in that choice to put it in the Quran.

As I've already shown, the Qur'an appears not to be able to make up its mind on this question. In different places it tells us that humans are made from dust, or water, or clay and so on. No-one has yet explained why, and this fact seems to be ignored by the people who believe the Qur'an to be some kind of amazingly prescient document.

Peace

 

[Malaikah]

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As I've already shown, the Qur'an appears not to be able to make up its mind on this question. In different places it tells us that humans are made from dust, or water, or clay and so on. No-one has yet explained why, and this fact seems to be ignored by the people who believe the Qur'an to be some kind of amazingly prescient document.

No offence but it really doesn't take a genius to realise it is talking about different stages.

 

[czgibson]

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Greetings,

No offence but it really doesn't take a genius to realise it is talking about different stages.

Forgive me: I am a stupid person and I find the Qur'an to be one of the most confusing books I've ever read.

Perhaps you could help me out: what is the order of the stages for using the substances I've mentioned to create humans? And how much of our bodies are made of clay, dust etc.?

Peace

 

[جوري]

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No offence but it really doesn't take a genius to realise it is talking about different stages.

you are talking to the master of abstraction and pioneering here, how dare you defend that or conceive that there is more than one ingredient that went into the creation of man? Budding from an aquatic eukaryotic organisms is more 'scientific' and easier to 'believe' than coming from the earth that we eventually decompose into.

 

[czgibson]

Re: Why Christianity is Fake

Greetings,

you are talking to the master of abstraction and pioneering here, how dare you defend that or conceive that there is more than one ingredient that went into the creation of man? Budding from an aquatic eukaryotic organisms is more 'scientific' and easier to 'believe' than coming from the earth that we eventually decompose into.

Thanks for your contribution, PA. Your ideas are always so refreshing. Please do keep them coming.

Peace

 

[Woodrow]

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It really is hard to comprehend the differences between the words dust and clay. we can be fairly certain as to what clay is. Powdered rock (dust) mixed with various amounts of water.

But, dust is another matter. Prior to the introduction of organic matter, it seems all dust would have been composed of clay.

so dust and clay can be the same thing.

 

[جوري]

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Greetings,


Thanks for your contribution, PA. Your ideas are always so refreshing. Please do keep them coming.

Peace

your blasé indifference is really getting to me, there are however, forum rules against taking up webspace on nonsense and spreading muck!
Again until you have something of substance to impart I suggest you take a hike!

cheers


P.S as much as I enjoy your attention seeking replies (you have a fan in a pyg) pun intended--do try hard to ignore me when I am actually addressing you so that it is more effective!

 

[czgibson]

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Greetings,

It really is hard to comprehend the differences between the words dust and clay. we can be fairly certain as to what clay is. Powdered rock (dust) mixed with various amounts of water.

But, dust is another matter. Prior to the introduction of organic matter, it seems all dust would have been composed of clay.

so dust and clay can be the same thing.

Good point. Do clay or dust actually form any part of our anatomy, though?

Peace

 

[جوري]

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It really is hard to comprehend the differences between the words dust and clay. we can be fairly certain as to what clay is. Powdered rock (dust) mixed with various amounts of water.

But, dust is another matter. Prior to the introduction of organic matter, it seems all dust would have been composed of clay.

so dust and clay can be the same thing.

Isn't it amazing how he interchanges dust and clay admixed with water to compose so many jejune responses and questions, yet couldn't tell you what the term is in Arabic, the original language of the Quran, perhaps therein lies the answer? the same way he affirmed 'it states no such thing' about the bee that makes honey being female, because he couldn't reconcile how the word 'take' could possibly be in the feminine?
This is coming from a language expert!
I am sure the other fellow can do a google search on this one and come up with an informative blog..

God, I have had it with the atheists on this forum
Astghfor Allah al3li il3atheem!

 

[Woodrow]

Re: Why Christianity is Fake

Greetings,


Good point. Do clay or dust actually form any part of our anatomy, though?

Peace

The mineral composition of it is. the most noticible being our bones and our blood system. Chemicaly our blood is identical with sea water. ie: clay/dust dissolved in water.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

Re: Why Christianity is Fake

'And thy Lord taught the (female)bee to build its cells in hills, on trees and in (men's) habitations..... there issues from within their bodies a drink of varying colours, wherein is healing for mankind. Verily in this is a Sign for those who give thought'.
(Translation of Quran 16:68-69)

In some languages nouns have a grammatical gender - in some languages bees are females (by verbs, adjectives etc) eventhough there are male bees among them.
Is the arabic language different? Does the verse particulary state that the bees producing honey are female?
And anyway, when was the gender of the honey-bees discovered? Before or after Mohammad?

 

[czgibson]

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Greetings,

The mineral composition of it is. the most noticible being our bones and our blood system. Chemicaly our blood is identical with sea water. ie: clay/dust dissolved in water.

We also contain carbon, but that doesn't mean we're made from coal...

Peace

 

[جوري]

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In some languages nouns have a grammatical gender - in some languages bees are females (by verbs, adjectives etc) eventhough there are male bees among them.
Is the arabic language different? Does the verse particulary state that the bees producing honey are female?
And anyway, when was the gender of the honey-bees discovered? Before or after Mohammad?

Hi.. I got to get back to my work so I can't have a detailed response and I apologize but I believe this will do a good job on my part. thanks for your interest

The Female Bee

In the 16th chapter (Surah an-Nahl 16:68-69) the Qur'an mentions that the female bee leaves its home to gather food. Now, a person might guess on that, saying, "The bee that you see flying around - it could be male, or it could be female. I think I will guess female." Certainly, he has a one in two chance of being right. So it happens that the Qur'an is right. But it also happens that that was not what most people believed at the time when the Qur'an was revealed. Can you tell the difference between a male and a female bee? Well, it takes a specialist to do that, but it has been discovered that the male bee never leaves his home to gather food. However, in Shakespeare's play, Henry the Fourth, some of the characters discuss bees and mention that the bees are soldiers and have a king. That is what people thought in Shakespeare's time - that the bees that one sees flying around are male bees and that they go home and answer to a king. However, that is not true at all. The fact is that they are females, and they answer to a queen. Yet it took modern scientific investigations in the last 300 years to discover that this is the case.

excerpt taken from 'the amazing Quran by Dr. Gary Miller'
former missionary

cheers

 

[Whatsthepoint]

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A lot of cultures knew clay to be the material humans are made of. Why? My guess is because clay can be modeled and this is how they imagined humans were creted - modeled by god/s.

 

[al_islam]

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A lot of cultures knew clay to be the material humans are made of. Why? My guess is because clay can be modeled and this is how they imagined humans were creted - modeled by god/s.

Great Guess.

I dont think your onto anything there tho sherlock.....try again !

 

[جوري]

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A lot of cultures knew clay to be the material humans are made of. Why? My guess is because clay can be modeled and this is how they imagined humans were creted - modeled by god/s.

we decompose into the earth from which we came, it makes sense that we were as well made of it, religious views aside..

cheers

 

[Whatsthepoint]

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we decompose into the earth from which we came, it makes sense that we were as well made of it, religious views aside..

cheers

Yeah, but why clay instead of soil, earth, dirt?

 

[Woodrow]

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Greetings,


We also contain carbon, but that doesn't mean we're made from coal...

Peace

However, under the same conditions that produced coal from organic matter, we could be made into a poor grade of coal. Plants make better coal as they have a higher carbon content.

Coal, is fairly recent in terms of the age of the Earth.

 

[root]

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we decompose into the earth from which we came, it makes sense that we were as well made of it, religious views aside..

cheers

Speak for yourself. The atoms that make up my body will not be destroyed. Billions of years from now those same atoms might be shining brightly as a star, if you really want to look where we came from look to space and not the narrow minded mere planet earth.

 

[Whatsthepoint]

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Hi.. I got to get back to my work so I can't have a detailed response and I apologize but I believe this will do a good job on my part. thanks for your interest

excerpt taken from 'the amazing Quran by Dr. Gary Miller'
former missionary

cheers

That answers the second part of my question. I am more insterested in getting a reply to the first part:

In some languages nouns have a grammatical gender - in some languages bees are females (by verbs, adjectives etc) eventhough there are male bees among them.
Is the arabic language different? Does the verse particulary state that the bees producing honey are female?

If Europeans in the 16th century didn't know something, that doesn't mean that nobody else did. I am guessing that Egyptians had quite a knowledge of bees..