why do Christians celebrate Easter?

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why is everyone ignoring my previous post?
Sometimes conversations get a little side-tracked, Asian man.
I blame Ummu Sufyaan and Danah with their talk about bunnies and eggs ... ;D

I did reply to your previous post.

Personally, I am not a great friend of using those Answer-Christianity/Answer-Islam sites. I don't find them very helpful in trying to understand what other people believe and why.
What is your own understanding of what Christians believe?
Do you know Christians personally, and have you talked to them about their faith?

There are Christians here who will be happy to tell you about their faith journey, if that's what you are interested in.
 
why is everyone ignoring my previous post?
Well, in part because I hadn't even seen this thread until now.

But, also, having read it, in part because it seems you perceive that testimony from places like the link you provided are actually capable of "proving" something.
look at this, this proves the crucifixion is a lie http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac24.htm#links
I submit to you that they "prove" nothing, even when all of their information is accurate, and in this case I suspect that if you looked closely at what they posted you would disagree with the accuracy of some of their assertions as well, for instance the link claims that Jesus (pbuh) sinned. Since when do Muslims believe that of their prophets. So, the link is suspect; I believe that without proper evaluation of the truth of the information they present, they just throwing everything at a point hoping something will stick. And when people use such links as integral to their own question/positions, well, I tend to dismiss them in the same way I dismiss the value of the link itself.

But, since you asked a second time, I will address your question in two parts: "Why do Christians celebrate Easter?"

First, speaking for myself. I celebrate Easter, because Easter is a celebration of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. This is an event which I believe did in fact take place. I believe that Jesus was crucified, died, and was buried. And I believe that on the first day of the week Jesus was raised to life again. I believe that the event of the resurrection is testimony to who Jesus is -- Lord, God, and Messiah. I believe that the event of the resurrection is the fulfillment of the recognition by God the Father that Jesus fulfilled the sianatic and levitical commands, kept Torah, and has brought to completion the work of reconciliation between God and humankind that was the central purpose for the covenants recorded in the Tanakah. I believe that the event of the resurrection is the proof of God's intention and ability to restore the world, and event that will be brought to final fruition when Christ returns to more fully establish God's kingdom on earth, but that in the resurrection the etermal kingdom has already in a sense broken into our present day existences so that we are already living in the first days of a new creation. And I celebrate Easter because I believe all of these things are worth celebrating.

Second, implicit in your question and several of your posts seems to be doubt that the resurrection (or for that matter the crucifixion) ever took place. While I don't expect to change your mind in that regard, I respectfully disagree with such a conclusion. And I find the presumption that it must be false or has been "proven" false merely because someone with an agenda has questioned certain aspects of it as being historical facts to be more than a little impudent. Absent a time machine, I believe that there is far more to support the thesis that Jesus died as a result of Roman execution, than any of the alternatives that have been presented over the course of time. But even if the crucifixion could not be shown to be completely verifiable, I would still believe in the reality of the resurrection.

One need not go further than your own question, "Why do Christians....", to recognize that Christianity exists. Do you understand, that at the heart of Christianity is the Resurrection? Why did Christianity arise, and why did it take the shape it did? The answer to this lies in the belief that something unique had taken place in not just the teaching of Jesus Christ, but in his death and resurrection. Let me categorically assert--There is no form of early Christianity known to us -- though there are some that have been invented by ingenious, yet disingenuous, scholars -- that does not affirm at its heart that after Jesus' shameful death God raised him to life again. (credit to biblical scholar N.T. Wright for the genesis of that last sentence) Even before the time of Paul, the earliest written witness, the resurrection is woven into the very fabric of early Christian life and thought effecting everything that the nascent church did. The sacraments, received by Paul from others, where memorials of Jesus' death and resurrection and were conducted as spiritual re-enactments of these events.

Christianity began as a resurrection movement. It was not just a belief that Jesus had been raised up from the dead, but that the OT apocalyptic general "resurrection of the dead" had begun. The book of Acts tells an interesting story in this regard:
The priests and the captain of the temple guard and the Sadducees came up to Peter and John while they were speaking to the people. They were greatly disturbed because the apostles were teaching the people and proclaiming in Jesus the resurrection of the dead. (Acts 4:1-2)
Note that Peter and John are not just telling people that Jesus had been raised (though that was the content of the first ever Christian sermon), but that in Jesus there was also occuring this "resurrection of the dead." Now, the Jews had already formulated specific ideas as to what that meant. From the time of Ezekiel 37 onward (about 500 BC),
the resurrection was an image used to denote the great return from exile, the renewal of the covenant, and to connote the belief that when it happened it would mean that Israel's sin and death (i.e. exile) had been dealt with, that YHWH had renewed his covenant with his people. Thus, "the resurrection of the dead" became both metaphor and metonymy, both a symbol for the coming new age and itself, taken literally, one central element in the package. When YHWH restored the fortunes of his people then of course Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, together with all God's people...would be reembodied, raised to life in God's new world.

If, therefore, you had said to a first-century Jew "the resurrection has occurred," you would have received the puzzled response that it obviously had not, since the patriarchs, prophets and marytrs were not walking around alive again and since the restoration spoken of in Ezekiel 37 had not clearly occurred either.

The Challenge of Easter, N.T. Wright, Intevarsity Press, c. 2009

The very earliest church roundly declared not only that Jesus had been raised from the dead but that "the resurrection of the dead" had already occurred. Without Jesus' resurrection as the impetus for this belief, there is no reason for first-century Jews to have believed this climatic event to have begun. They did not behave as if they had had a new sort of religious experience or as if their former leader was alive and well in the presence of God. They behaved as though a new age had arrived--though not in the way they have been preconditioned to think of it. So, this new age belief had been triggered by something they had not expected. Nothing was less expected by the disciples than that Jesus would have been crucified, nothing except that having been so executed at the hands of the Romans that he would have returned from the grave to bodily life again. Against all their expectations of all the righteous dead of God being raised to life again at the end of time, they experienced one person being raised to life again in the middle of the present age. And this, not only unbelievable but unanticipated story, is the one they chose to tell. If they were going to invent something, this is not the story they would have invented.

I contend, it is impossible to explain why the early church continued to believe and put forth the idea that Jesus was the Jewish Messiah if he had simply been executed in the manner of all the other failed messiahs. There would be no hearing for failed Messiahs in the Jewish world, and no concern about Messiahs at all in the Gentile world. But, this is how the church chose to present Jesus. The only substantiation they ever gave for doing so was their belief in his resurrection.

I can understand why people doubt the authenticity of that story. But take away the message of Easter and you don't have a Christian faith. The question isn't just if there was no resurrection where did that faith come from? But even more, if there was no resurrection, where did a church preaching the resurrection as the center piece of their faith come from, and how did it emerge within first-century Judaism and become known in Rome even before the time of Paul?
 
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The bible has been changed so many times, why would u believe what Paul said about jesus dying on the cross, Paul is not the prophet, he never met Jesus, why do people believe what he said about Jesus being resurrected?

It wasn't just Paul that stated this, it is in all 4 of the Gospels and 500 christians who witnessed Jesus ressurection happily went to their deaths inclding being pulled apart by horses and crucified upside down rather than deny that Chris was thier saviour in the days after Jesus ascension to heaven
May the Truth set you free Brother
 
^ I edited my last post and added more........why does it have to be colored?
Because it's fun!! Not everything is religiously motivated. Something just are because mom and dad did it when you were a kid and it was fun, so you pass it those family traditions to your own kids. Of course, they also change over time, and what once might have had some sort of meaning, has had that meaning (as far as I know) lost to the vestages of time.
 
Easter like other alleged 'christian' holidays is but a pagan practice.. the eggs used to be given to the gods of persia for nowruz a celebration of spring and rebirth..

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the whole religion is borrowed from pagan practices so why shouldn't their holidays?

you can read more here as I think a picture is worth a thousand words and there is no point hammering in something this obvious..

http://www.vohuman.org/Article/Noruz, The Fire of Spring.htm

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Easter Message: Anti-Semitism and genocide of Muslim children
Jewish leaders around the world were outraged by Pope Benedict XVI’s personal preacher, Father Raniero Cantalamessa, who called attack on the Pope for not mentioning the child sexual abuse (padophilia) cases within the Church in his Easter message - as “anti-Semitism”. The Zionist controlled Western mainstream media was quick to point finger on this glaring omission in the traditional Easter Messages delivered by both Pope Benedict XI and the Archbishop of Canterbury. However, the same media ignored the glaring omission of estimated 1000 Muslim children being killed each day as result of the wars created by Christian West in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Sudan, Somalia, Chechnya and Philippines. The Pope, Archbishop of Canterbury and the leaders of other Churches while preaching love and moral values – did not consider worth mentioning the world-wide children gencide because the victims happen to be Muslims.

Now compare this omission with the Zionist controlled Western mainstream media record in the past. Had the sex offender had been a Muslim, religious or non-religious, or even a dozen Jew or Christian children had been killed by Hamas or Hizb’Allah – The West would be screaming for the accusers’ head and blaming Islam for their evil deeds. However, Rabbi and priests have nothing to fear. Only last month, Rabbi Bryan Bramley of Temple Beth Shalom Synagogue in Arizona was arrested for sexually molesting a 7-year-old girl. In 2009, the Jewish daily FORWARD reported that several Jewish and Christian organizations had opposed NY Sex Abuse Bill on the excuse: “The law suits that could be leveled against rabbis, temples, yeshivot, schools and other institutions – could literally destroy schools, houses of worship that sponsor youth programs, summer camps and other institutions that are the very lifeblood of our community”.

Interestingly, the very Zionist controlled mainstream media which is now writing columns after columns on Pope’s omission – has been totally silent over child molestor Rabbis and Jewish homosexual and pedophiles. Some of the famous child abusers include Rev. Marcial Maciel Dagellado, the charismatic founder of the Legionaries of Christ, a close ally of the late Pope John Paul II. Father Maciel (d. 2008) but not before molesting hundreds of boys and fathering three illegitimate children. What is even more shocking is that it was Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict XVI, who vetted accusations of abuse against Maciel but took no action despite overwhelming evidence from a number of witnesses. Also Rev. Lawrence C. Murphy, who sexually abused more than 200 deaf boys between 1950 and 1974.

Professor Dr. Gideon Polya (Australia) in his article at the Countercurrent.Org (April 6, 2010) wrote on the omission of the genocide of Muslim children in Easter Message delivered by the Catholic and the Protestant Churches. “Now if miracles actually occur and by some miracle the Archbishop of Canterbury or the Pope were to be drawn into a public discussion of the mass murder of Muslim children by the racist Zionist beholden US Alliance, they might plead that apart from (regular) collateral damage from civilian-targeting US bombing, the brave US storm troopers are not actually shoving bayonets into Muslim babies. However, whether a Muslim child in the occupied Palestine, Iraq or Afghanistan dies from bombs or bullets or from occupier-imposed deprivation and deprivation-exacerbated disease, the end result is the same and the moral culpability the same.

We know the racist Zionists have been blockading the Gaza Concentration Camp (1.5 million inmates, 800,000 of them children) for several years and if you consult the World Health Organization (WHO) you will find that the total health expenditure permitted by the US alliance Occupiers in in occupied Iraq and Afghanistan is US$124 and US$29 respectively, as compared to US$3,122 (for occupier Australia) and US2,784 (for occupier UK).

All decent people abide by national and international law, respecting the words of Jesus Christ, and so the Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury and all world leaders (except for the leaders of war criminal US Alliance and racist Zionist-run apartheid Israel) would recognize the obligation to abide by Article 55 and 56 of the Geneva Convention relative to the protection of civilian persons in time of war which demands that an Occupier should provide its conquered subjects with food and medical life-sustaining requisites “to the fullest extent of the means available for it”.

http://rehmat1.wordpress.com/2010/04...slim-children/
 
What has the above article got to do with Easter? There's a brief reference to a Papal Easter message in the second line, but that's around it.
 
Easter like other alleged 'christian' holidays is but a pagan practice.. the eggs used to be given to the gods of persia for nowruz a celebration of spring and rebirth..

ANCIENT20PERSIAN20PRACTICE20CONDEMNED20I-1.gif


the whole religion is borrowed from pagan practices so why shouldn't their holidays?


you can read more here as I think a picture is worth a thousand words and there is no point hammering in something this obvious..

http://www.vohuman.org/Article/Noruz, The Fire of Spring.htm

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How can you possibly say that without due regard to Grace Seekers posts here and mine and without disrespecting Jesus and the OT too?
I thought Muslims respected scripture

Bless you to grow
 
How can you possibly say that without due regard to Grace Seekers posts here and mine and without disrespecting Jesus and the OT too?
I thought Muslims respected scripture

Bless you to grow

Neither your writing and especially not Grace's voluminous ramblings have any bearing on factuality, verity or even common sense. I don't disrespect Jesus, you worship a man named Jesus and that isn't the word of truth from Allah swt.. that is some fairy tales you and your ancestors concocted and passed on from generation to generation.. any minor search into your rituals and practices will yield a laundry list of pagan practices and rituals and even beliefs. and No, I have no regard for your scriptures. Your scriptures aren't the unadulterated word of God, why should I heed any of its contents?

all the best
 
Once again, we see that rather than addressing the question posed by the thread, "Why do Christians celebrate Easter?", some here choose to simply post that Easter is pagan in origin. Such a response is about as helpful to the OP as those Christians who, on Christian forums. respond to questions asking why Muslims throw stones at al-Kaʿbah with posts that can be reduced to "Islam is pagan in origin." Name calling is name calling. And that's all that we see in some people's posts.
 
I had a chat with my husband about this topic, when he peered over my shoulder and read some of the comments in this thread.

My husband is not a Christian, so it was quite interesting for me to hear his thoughts.
He said that - speaking as a non-Christian - he felt that it really only needed a basic understanding of the Christian faith to fully know that Easter is a Christian festival, and not a pagan one.
Christians remember and celebrate the death and resurrection of Jesus - that's nothing to do with any pagan deities.

However, I agree with some of my Muslim friends that the use of some traditions are not very helpful.
I know that many Christians would disagree with me, and that's fine too. We are all free to celebrate our faith in the ways we find most fulfilling!

I guess I am a bit of a puritan at heart, and I would not mind stripping down the celebrations of Easter (and Christmas) to the origins of their meaning - and to remove the hype and consumerism which surround them ...

I guess I ask myself, which traditions are beneficial to my faith journey?
When I remember the miraculous conception and birth of Jesus, are presents, decorations and a Christmas tree helpful?
When I celebrate the wonderful gift we are offered in Jesus' sacrifice on the cross and his promise of new eternal life, are coloured eggs and chocolate bunnies useful?

Personally, I feel that many traditions are not particularly beneficial in my faith journey.
I find that they tend to distract believers from the true meaning of the festival they are celebrating.
And they tend to muddy the water and can cause confusion amongst non-Christians as to what Christianity actually teaches – as this thread demonstrates.
 
Once again, we see that rather than addressing the question posed by the thread, "Why do Christians celebrate Easter?", some here choose to simply post that Easter is pagan in origin. Such a response is about as helpful to the OP as those Christians who, on Christian forums. respond to questions asking why Muslims throw stones at al-Kaʿbah with posts that can be reduced to "Islam is pagan in origin." Name calling is name calling. And that's all that we see in some people's posts.

why do Christians celebrate easter is a question only they can answer but there is no denying its pagan origins to the last eggy detail... Kaaba and its stone come from Adam and then Abraham (PBUT) even if Pagans took over and then have them reclaimed again for monotheism, not the other way around!

all the best
 
respond to questions asking why Muslims throw stones at al-Kaʿbah with posts that can be reduced to "Islam is pagan in origin

LOL get your facts right . Muslims dont stone Kaabah.

Muslims , throw stones at Jamarat to signify their defiance of the Devil. This symbolizes the trials experienced by Abraham while he decided whether to sacrifice his son as demanded by Allah. The Devil challenged him three times, and three times Abraham refused. Each pillar marks the location of one of these refusals . Thus , Its the Christian religion which involves worship of a man ,his mother and his 2 co-gods and thus is Pagan in origin
 
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Gotta love conversations which go, verbatim, 'your religion is more pagan than mine!'

Every religion has bowed to some pagan influences, some in more ways than others. As ever, debating about it is rather unproductive, and if it's a method of winning converts, or any other nonsensical reason, it is generally a failure.
 
why do Christians celebrate easter is a question only they can answer but there is no denying its pagan origins to the last eggy detail... Kaaba and its stone come from Adam and then Abraham (PBUT) even if Pagans took over and then have them reclaimed again for monotheism, not the other way around!

all the best

Gossemer
Treu Christians do not use eggs to celebrate Easter and similar for Christmas that is just a tool of rampant capatilsit consumerism which many secular people indulge in, Soory you are confised about this simple and obvious difference hope you understand now

Bless you
 
LOL get your facts right . Muslims dont stone Kaabah.

Muslims , throw stones at Jamarat to signify their defiance of the Devil. This symbolizes the trials experienced by Abraham while he decided whether to sacrifice his son as demanded by Allah. The Devil challenged him three times, and three times Abraham refused. Each pillar marks the location of one of these refusals . Thus , Its the Christian religion which involves worship of a man ,his mother and his 2 co-gods and thus is Pagan in origin

Hm, Abraham really didn't move around much did he?

Anyway, I think "pagan" is usually used to say "every religion except for mine", and so it doesn't really hold any more meaning than that. All religions are pagan in the eyes of other religions. Which makes sense, because why would you only believe in your religion if you didn't think all the other ones were outdated, blatantly flawed and ridiculous?
 
Gotta love conversations which go, verbatim, 'your religion is more pagan than mine!'.
Your religion is paganistic bar none!


Gossemer
Treu Christians do not use eggs to celebrate Easter and similar for Christmas that is just a tool of rampant capatilsit consumerism which many secular people indulge in, Soory you are confised about this simple and obvious difference hope you understand now

Bless you

did your god ask you to celebrate his death or birth for that matter? if he didn't then frankly anything you incorporate whether you think you thought it up or borrowed it is in fact paganistic.. you appear to be the one who is confused!

all the best
 
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Hm, Abraham really didn't move around much did he?

Anyway, I think "pagan" is usually used to say "every religion except for mine", and so it doesn't really hold any more meaning than that. All religions are pagan in the eyes of other religions. Which makes sense, because why would you only believe in your religion if you didn't think all the other ones were outdated, blatantly flawed and ridiculous?

Pagan is a term applied to folks not of monotheistic religions, Jews, madeans, sabeans, Muslims etc.. Christianity alleges monotheistic origins but worship a three headed man/god who died and incorporate practices from paganistic religions like Zoroastrianism, greek mythology, pharonic religions etc
Perhaps a scratch beneath the superficial might elucidate things for you better..

all the best
 
Gossemer
Treu Christians do not use eggs to celebrate Easter and similar for Christmas that is just a tool of rampant capatilsit consumerism which many secular people indulge in, Soory you are confised about this simple and obvious difference hope you understand now

Bless you

Who are you talking about- 'true' Christians? May I advise using against using such language, Christians can easily celebrate the true meanings of both festivals whilst also enjoying the more secular elements.
 
Your religion is paganistic bar none!

'Bar none' is used in the wrong context here- bar means except. Rather, a more grammatically acceptable statement would be 'Your religion is paganistic- period!'

practices from paganistic religions like Zoroastrianism, greek mythology, pharonic religions etc

Zoroastranism was the first monotheistic religion in recorded history- your erroneous concept of 'paganism' is limited to merely being synonymous with 'un-Islamic', and even then it's applied incorrectly.
 

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