Why do Evolutionists believe....

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Joe98 said:
This is a very good example.

We athiests start by saying "I don't know the reason". Religious people will say "God did it".

Give people a day, a year or 100 years and we will find the reason. Religious people can then pin one less thing on God but will not stop them believing in God.
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I like the way Joe put this. Evolutionists are not at all certain how life itself came to be. They don't claim to know. Creatoinists fill the gap of knowledge with God. Classic case of God of the Gaps.

I think the only reason the religious in the US are anti-evolution is because it appears to contradict the Gensis story. But maybe Adam and Eve were prokaryotes and the garden of eden was a puddle and evolution and genesis can coexist! :)
 
What about the big bang? that proves that there was a point when there was nothing ex nihilo
infinite regression is therefore absurd (its absurd anyway even without the big bang)
and so that can not be used to explain the 'beginning'...
everything that happens is a process of cause and effect and so if we look back in time to the big bang- something had to be there already that caused it- something out of the dimensions of space and time- this is what theists call 'God'
 
IceQueen~ said:
What about the big bang? that proves that there was a point when there was nothing ex nihilo
infinite regression is therefore absurd (its absurd anyway even without the big bang)
and so that can not be used to explain the 'beginning'...
everything that happens is a process of cause and effect and so if we look back in time to the big bang- something had to be there already that caused it- something out of the dimensions of space and time- this is what theists call 'God'
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Too many unknowns and too many specific claims arising therefrom. Too much God in those Gaps. Must we invent stories to fill the gaps in our knowledge? It is really so painful for us all to admit that we simply don't know?
 
IceQueen~ said:
What about the big bang? that proves that there was a point when there was nothing ex nihilo
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Actually, it doesn't. Plank time. We don't even know if creation ex nihilo was required, and hence assuming that it was is no sensible base for arguing for the existence of God.. particularly as that solution still leaves the same question nobody can ever answer, accepting "everything that happens is a process of cause and effect", what caused God? There have been answers, of course, usually denying God needed a cause, but they can be easily challenged philosophically if not disproven any more than they can be proven.

According to the Big Bang theory nothing is known about the universe at time=0, though it is presumed that all fundamental forces coexisted and that all matter, energy, and spacetime expanded outward from an extremely hot and dense singularity. One planck time after the event is the closest that theoretical physics can get us to it, and at that time it appears that gravity separated from the other fundamental forces.
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For the record, and hopefully without giving any offence to anybody, I personally agree with Pygoscelis at least partially. While ideas of the monotheistic God certainly can direct some in the direction of 'reality', particularly in their more mystical forms, the formalisation of God and His acts/properties is essentially just a sophisticated story conceived and developed over many centuries as an attempt to fill various knowledge gaps.
 

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