why do Muslim wear hijab?

[aadil77]

^have to agree

 

[Asiyah3]

^^ I agree with Huan.

If both are wearing tight clothes/showing off their figure or nudity in some way...then there really would be no difference..

Their behaviour affects people's thoughts of Islam and furthermore the other muslim women.

It would be ridiculous to call one a hypocrite over the other. Both are inappropriately dressed and one just is covering her hair... she is not making any statement about her faith being perfect, is she?

Umm.. yes she is. When one uses the hijab you signal to others around you that you are a muslim, modest and humble. We use the hijab to respect Allah's will.
:wa:

ps. We should avoid be judgemental and call others hypocrites.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The signs of the hypocrite are three: when he speaks he lies, when he makes a promise he breaks it, and when he is entrusted with something he betrays (that trust).” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 33; Muslim, 59.

 

[transition?]

But why wear it if it's going to defeat the actual purpose of it. That is called hypocrisy isn't it, if not what is it ? At least this other women you are comparing isn't trying to show she is any religious, hence why I do not agree with the bit in bold. Unless she is going around proclaiming it, you wouldn't know otherwise from the 'western' clothing.

Why bother with life if I'm going to sin? Well, akhi, so we can continuing grow and learning and becoming better Muslims.

Most Muslimahs actually almost every Muslim does not do anything to prove themselves or make a statement that they in fact are perfect Muslims. We are quick to make judgments about our Muslimahs than find excuses for them. We follow hijab because we are saying "I am Muslim and I will follow Islam to the best ability I can" No one can have everything perfect at one time.

Audhibillah, "why bother wearing it" Is that right attitude to have? You'd rather have her give up because she sucks at being Muslim/covering up? No, we as Muslim find the root problem and continue to encourage her. Because we all have weaknesses. Some issues are greater than others.

^^ I agree with Huan.


Their behaviour affects people's thoughts of Islam and furthermore the other muslim women.


Umm.. yes she is. When one uses the hijab you signal to others around you that you are a muslim, modest and humble. We use the hijab to respect Allah's will.
:wa:

ps. We should avoid be judgemental and call others hypocrites.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The signs of the hypocrite are three: when he speaks he lies, when he makes a promise he breaks it, and when he is entrusted with something he betrays (that trust).” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 33; Muslim, 59.

The core reason a Muslim woman observes hijab or at least attempts being a muhajaba because she wishes to follow Allah's Command.

I cannot judge about this certain individual because I don't know her. But if I did know someone, then I would approach her about the issue. There are many reasons people do not cover properly. Unless you or someone approach her, you cannot condemn her completely. She could be lacking evidence/knowledge on true hijab. She could be in a process of transitioning.
You have to find loose clothing, which is a major money investment. Sometimes, observing hijab means discrimination or judgment (*cough*). It takes a serious commitment and great imaan to risk that. Sometimes that will take time to build. There is no excuse, but faith is something that grows. People can only burden themselves with what they can at a time. Generally, I find the former is true. Therefore, try as much as you can to avoid judging her because there is lack of knowledge everywhere. Sometimes, ignorance isn't the same thing as hypocrisy.

At least one is trying to observe, while the other is O_O,.. not trying at all. I am baffled as to why someone would want to marry a person who has attempted nothing than someone who tries.
Most likely, if you help her and provide her with evidence, she will follow through.


Yes, the hadith you posted about is about "hypocrite of character," which is different from hypocrite of belief. You should be careful using both.

 

[syilla]

Because Allah swt told us so...

Even how bad the muslimahs wear their hijabs....it is our responsibility as muslims to give them advice / naseehah the proper way of wearing according to islam.

 

[transition?]

Because Allah swt told us so...

Even how bad the muslimahs wear their hijabs....it is our responsibility as muslims to give them advice / naseehah the proper way of wearing according to islam.

Yup yup sis :]

 

[Abdul Qadir]

coz there are lecherous ppl like italianguy lurking around...;D

 

[transition?]

^ he's joking btw people (especially you guest lurking here : ) ).

 

[Donia]

I appreciate your quest to gain knowledge.

“And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear therof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands' fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers, or their brothers' sons or their sisters' sons, or their women or the servants whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex, and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O you Believers, turn you all together towards Allah, that you may attain Bliss.” (Quran 24:31).

I am not a scholar but I think this is the keyword in this verse, if you want to go by this verse alone.

What is a veil?
Veil = head covering

Here is a great example that is often quoted from a Hadith..

Ayesha (rad.i-Allahu `anha) reported that Asma’ the daughter of Abu Bakr (rad.i-Allahu `anhu) came to the Messenger of Allah MHMD while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said: 'O Asma’! When a girl reaches the menstrual age, it is not proper that anything should remain exposed except this and this. He pointed to the face and hands." [Abu Dawud]

 

[huan]

Why bother with life if I'm going to sin? Well, akhi, so we can continuing grow and learning and becoming better Muslims.

Most Muslimahs actually almost every Muslim does not do anything to prove themselves or make a statement that they in fact are perfect Muslims. We are quick to make judgments about our Muslimahs than find excuses for them. We follow hijab because we are saying "I am Muslim and I will follow Islam to the best ability I can" No one can have everything perfect at one time.

Audhibillah, "why bother wearing it" Is that right attitude to have? You'd rather have her give up because she sucks at being Muslim/covering up? No, we as Muslim find the root problem and continue to encourage her. Because we all have weaknesses. Some issues are greater than others.

The discussion around here is as bro 'Italianguy' has said :

... most of the Muslimah's I see, wear form fitting designer hijab's that although stand for modesty in their meaning, don't do much for cover when they are coupled with tight jeans, a tight shirt and high heel shoes...

Now If you feel they are making a mistake in understanding their faith and therefore should not be judged quickly, what about the other muslim women who get judged about their clothing because of them, it surely isn't doing Islam any justice.

Also I get the feeling some muslims don't even understand the whole reason of wearing the hijab and just blindly following what has been shoved down their throats, surely if you want to see the societal benefits of the hijab then it would not lead people trying to 'modernise' the hijab. The fact is that it's not even about being a perfect muslim, it's just sheer ignorance on the part of such muslims which leads to innovations being introduced.

 

[transition?]

I appreciate your quest to gain knowledge.



I am not a scholar but I think this is the keyword in this verse, if you want to go by this verse alone.

What is a veil?
Veil = head covering

Here is a great example that is often quoted from a Hadith..

Ayesha (rad.i-Allahu `anha) reported that Asma’ the daughter of Abu Bakr (rad.i-Allahu `anhu) came to the Messenger of Allah MHMD while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said: 'O Asma’! When a girl reaches the menstrual age, it is not proper that anything should remain exposed except this and this. He pointed to the face and hands." [Abu Dawud]

To add on, the best article I have seen that cover the linguistics of what the covering up means from the Quran and Sunnah:

http://nahdaonline.islamicink.com/2009/04/jilbab/

 

[transition?]

The discussion around here is as bro 'Italianguy' has said :



Now If you feel they are making a mistake in understanding their faith and therefore should not be judged quickly, what about the other muslim women who get judged about their clothing because of them, it surely isn't doing Islam any justice.

Also I get the feeling some muslims don't even understand the whole reason of wearing the hijab and just blindly following what has been shoved down their throats, surely if you want to see the societal benefits of the hijab then it would not lead people trying to 'modernise' the hijab. The fact is that it's not even about being a perfect muslim, it's just sheer ignorance on the part of such muslims which leads to innovations being introduced.

I am not denying the issue. I'm just saying we all know the issue: ignorance, lack of knowledge, lack of faith,..etc. True, it is not doing Islam any justice.

It's hard on LI because we are all at different learning levels, and some people are just understanding the issue. I've just seen hundreds and hundred of time this issue is raised. There is no point to criticism, if it is not constructive and we are doing nothing to solve the problem

We all know the issue, so my point is that, instead of making the 9838934th thread on the misconception, let's not just bring awareness about the mistakes but awareness on how to correct them :

Because Allah swt told us so...

Even how bad the muslimahs wear their hijabs....it is our responsibility as muslims to give them advice / naseehah the proper way of wearing according to islam.

 

[huan]

I am not denying the issue. I'm just saying we all know the issue: ignorance, lack of knowledge, lack of faith,..etc. True, it is not doing Islam any justice.

It's hard on LI because we are all at different learning levels, and some people are just understanding the issue. I've just seen hundreds and hundred of time this issue is raised. There is no point to criticism, if it is not constructive and we are doing nothing to solve the problem

We all know the issue, so my point is that, instead of making the 9838934th thread on the misconception, let's not just bring awareness about the mistakes but awareness on how to correct them :

That's the whole problem I am having with Islam atm, I just see it as a set of laws which are hammered into children's head at a very young age and made to believe such things without proper questioning. I was born into a Muslim household and was a practicing Muslim (well not proper strict) until recently, now I just seem to have problems comprehending certain things. Even though I don't have a problem with people wearing the veil if they want to, but neither do I agree with the reasons why women are commanded to wear it in the first place.

 

[Esther462]

I wear hijab beacuse it says so in the quran, modisy and to show that I'm muslim.
Women should wear hijab in loose fitting clothes like long sleave tops ,skirs and dresses not skin tiet trousers and teit tops.

 

[Salahudeen]

As my beautifull brother Murtaza Khan says in this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nAoVLej8TE

"when we begin to despise over Muslim's, look down upon other Muslim's then what teachings are you holding to? you are only holding to the teachings of shayttan (Iblis)

when you begin to look at another sister and say "well you don't wear the hijaab properly or you don't wear the thobe correctly there's something deficient in you" yes there may be something deificient in her or a man who doesn't wear the thobe correctly or do certain actions correctly, there may be something externally deficient about that individual, we shouldn't play upon that, we shouldn't make a mockery of them, we should strengthen them not weaken them.

there may be words of wisdom the person speaks, there may be skill and welfare, dua supplication actions that they have that we can learn from.

give them sincere advice that "this action your doing is against the sunnah of the prophet pbuh".

check the link out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nAoVLej8TE

I never read the whole thread btw.

 

[huan]

I wear hijab beacuse it says so in the quran

That's not good enough, have you looked at why the Quran says so.

 

[Asiyah3]

I wear it because I want to please Allah.

 

[Esther462]

That's not good enough, have you looked at why the Quran says so.

Read the 1st post on this tread to get my answer.

 

[Salahudeen]

That's the whole problem I am having with Islam atm, I just see it as a set of laws which are hammered into children's head at a very young age and made to believe such things without proper questioning. I was born into a Muslim household and was a practicing Muslim (well not proper strict) until recently, now I just seem to have problems comprehending certain things. Even though I don't have a problem with people wearing the veil if they want to, but neither do I agree with the reasons why women are commanded to wear it in the first place.

I understand what you mean, there was lots of stuff in Islam I didn't agree with and couldn't see the wisdom in but then I thought to myself why am I making the criterion for accepting a command of god my own intellect and reasoning, who am I to use my own nut sized brain ;D and limited knowledge/skills to decide upon if something god lesgislates is good or bad.

Then I started thinking, reasoning differs from person to person, you may not be able to see the wisdom or reasoning in why god legsilates something but the person next to you might be able to see the wisdom in it.

that's why it's dangerous to judge the commands of God with your own logic/reasoning because god in all his wisdom knows what's best for us, where as me and you do not even know if we'll be alive tomorrow.

Then I started thinking, "do I know better than God?" obviously not, so if God legislates something who am I to say "well sorry God I don't agree with this you got it wrong here so I'm not gonna follow it"

what people agree upon differs from person to person that's why you can't use what we agree upon. If people only followed the bits of Islam they could see the wisdom in then every 1 would be doing their own thing, you'd have some people praying, some people not praying, you'd have some people eating pork and some people not eating pork.

all because they decided to follow what they agreed with and what suited their desires.

you have to remember your mentality and your thinking is a product of the society and time you were raised in so using your own reasoning/intellect when judging the commands of god is faulty because if you lived a 1000 years ago your reasoning would have been different according to that time and society.

whether we agree or not with the divine commands is irrelavant, we believe the Qur'an to be from God and in it he commands us to do certain actions sure sometimes we can't see the reasoning behind those actions or the wisdom behind them but that doesn't mean we disregard the whole religion.

we follow everything because by following the religion we make our creator pleased with us, he has legislated how he wants us to live our lifes you can either accept or refuse there's no compulsion in religion.

if you refuse and think you know better as did the shaytaan well we know what happened to him when he didn't agree with the reasoning behind god commanding him to bow to Adam.

shaytaan isn't shaytaan cos he was disobediant, we are all disobediant at some stage in our life, shaytaan was shaytaan because he thought he knew better than God, he thought his own logic/reasoning was the criterion for judging if something is correct or not and that is why he is called arrogant cos he believed his own reasoning and wisdom to be greater than Gods therefore he refused to bow.

make dua to Allah to guide you every night and ask him to help you understand his religion and feel peaceful and content with it.

 

[huan]

I understand what you mean, there was lots of stuff in Islam I didn't agree with and couldn't see the wisdom in but then I thought to myself why am I making the criterion for accepting a command of god my own intellect and reasoning, who am I to use my own nut sized brain ;D and limited knowledge/skills to decide upon if something god lesgislates is good or bad.

Then I started thinking, reasoning differs from person to person, you may not be able to see the wisdom or reasoning in why god legsilates something but the person next to you might be able to see the wisdom in it.

that's why it's dangerous to judge the commands of God with your own logic/reasoning because god in all his wisdom knows what's best for us, where as me and you do not even know if we'll be alive tomorrow.

Then I started thinking, "do I know better than God?" obviously not, so if God legislates something who am I to say "well sorry God I don't agree with this you got it wrong here so I'm not gonna follow it"

what people agree upon differs from person to person that's why you can't use what we agree upon. If people only followed the bits of Islam they could see the wisdom in then every 1 would be doing their own thing, you'd have some people praying, some people not praying, you'd have some people eating pork and some people not eating pork.

all because they decided to follow what they agreed with and what suited their desires.

you have to remember your mentality and your thinking is a product of the society and time you were raised in so using your own reasoning/intellect when judging the commands of god is faulty because if you lived a 1000 years ago your reasoning would have been different according to that time and society.

whether we agree or not with the divine commands is irrelavant, we believe the Qur'an to be from God and in it he commands us to do certain actions sure sometimes we can't see the reasoning behind those actions or the wisdom behind them but that doesn't mean we disregard the whole religion.

we follow everything because by following the religion we make our creator pleased with us, he has legislated how he wants us to live our lifes you can either accept or refuse there's no compulsion in religion.

if you refuse and think you know better as did the shaytaan well we know what happened to him when he didn't agree with the reasoning behind god commanding him to bow to Adam.

shaytaan isn't shaytaan cos he was disobediant, we are all disobediant at some stage in our life, shaytaan was shaytaan because he thought he knew better than God, he thought his own logic/reasoning was the criterion for judging if something is correct or not and that is why he is called arrogant cos he believed his own reasoning and wisdom to be greater than Gods therefore he refused to bow.

make dua to Allah to guide you every night and ask him to help you understand his religion and feel peaceful and content with it.

It's this type of attitude which I also dislike, something which was mentioned in a book 1400 years ago, you are obliged to believe in it hook line and sinker without even doubting, otherwise you'd be sinning. I just feel that religions inhibit the progress of civilisations, it's that attitude of not allowed to question things which just doesn't seem right.

 

[Salahudeen]

It's this type of attitude which I also dislike, something which was mentioned in a book 1400 years ago, you are obliged to believe in it hook line and sinker without even doubting, otherwise you'd be sinning. I just feel that religions inhibit the progress of civilisations, it's that attitude of not allowed to question things which just doesn't seem right.

it seems the problem lies in you doubting the Qur'an to be the word of God, I take it you don't accept the Qur'an as being divine from God?