Why do we only have tears for Gaza?

[simplicity786]

i don't think its racism with in Islam, not all arabs think them self to be most important.. the situations throughout history haven't always been highlighted in the arab world this is a exception because people are standing up its not just about injustice its about the land its about history..

 

[Angel12]

i don't think its racism with in Islam, not all arabs think them self to be most important.. the situations throughout history haven't always been highlighted in the arab world this is a exception because people are standing up its not just about injustice its about the land its about history..

As a African Muslim, i do tend to be looked down on by Arabs and Asians. As if Africans cannot be true Muslims.
Whatever the reason is, it is highly two faced and hypocritical to make a huge fuss about Palestinians but ignore what other Muslims are going through.

 

[Woodrow]

As a African Muslim, i do tend to be looked down on by Arabs and Asians. As if Africans cannot be true Muslims.
Whatever the reason is, it is highly two faced and hypocritical to make a huge fuss about Palestinians but ignore what other Muslims are going through.

Sadly, I have to agree with you. There is prejudice within the Ummah. I will not attribute it to Racism, as I see it more as nationalism. But, it is prejudice and it does need to be addressed and ended.

We are all Muslims and it makes no difference if our heritage is from Saudi, Palestine, Pakistan, Malaysia, Somalia, Nigeria, The UK, USA or Canada etc. We are one Ummah and need to extend our care to all of our Brothers and Sisters.

 

[KittyKat]

Salaams,

For me it is a matter of "I am but a small voice in this giant world." I feel so helpless to do anything of any substance to help those in need no matter of where they are in the world.

My heart does cry and yes I do shed tears, even before converting I've been shedding tears. What more can I do? I speak to those around me and I tell them of the tragedies of how I disagree and wish the world could live in peace and we could love our brothers and sisters but what good does this do?

I feel so helpless and small when it comes to matters such as this.

 

[Woodrow]

Salaams,

For me it is a matter of "I am but a small voice in this giant world." I feel so helpless to do anything of any substance to help those in need no matter of where they are in the world.

My heart does cry and yes I do shed tears, even before converting I've been shedding tears. What more can I do? I speak to those around me and I tell them of the tragedies of how I disagree and wish the world could live in peace and we could love our brothers and sisters but what good does this do?

I feel so helpless and small when it comes to matters such as this.

Just as each cell within our body is tiny and invisible. Combined all of the cells becom us. So it is we are each a tiny speck in the Ummah, but together we are a very big Ummah with a loud voice. But, we all need to work together and have a healthy strong Ummah.

 

[Angel12]

Sadly, I have to agree with you. There is prejudice within the Ummah. I will not attribute it to Racism, as I see it more as nationalism. But, it is prejudice and it does need to be addressed and ended.

We are all Muslims and it makes no difference if our heritage is from Saudi, Palestine, Pakistan, Malaysia, Somalia, Nigeria, The UK, USA or Canada etc. We are one Ummah and need to extend our care to all of our Brothers and Sisters.

It does need to be addressed but i doubt anything will ever change.
Just because Islam came from within the ME does not mean anyone who is Arab is instantly better than other Muslims :raging:

 

[جوري]

Perhaps you should take the trouble to read the first post. It is a thread asking why so much less concern is shown about the violent death of muslims in other conflicts around the world than it is for those in Gaza. Clearly Darfur is such a conflict.

And I believe someone has already pointed out that the situation in some places is more pressing than others... to re-hash the analogy 'locusts in the field' isn't as pressing as when your house is on fire'
also notice, in my post, I made no mention of GAZA or Palestine, I clearly stated -- you may start a separate thread of your chosen grievance.

 

[Trumble]

And I believe someone has already pointed out that the situation in some places is more pressing than others... to re-hash the analogy 'locusts in the field' isn't as pressing as when your house is on fire'

Perhaps you might choose a more relevant one. Actually both houses are on fire. Darfur is a much bigger house that has been burning a lot longer. However if the point you are struggling to make coherently is that, for the moment, the Gaza house is burning brighter, I look forward forward (with far more hope than anticipation) to a similar level of response regarding Darfur - which will still be burning - once the Gaza fire has been extinguished, or at least gotten under control, hopefully in as peaceful a fashion as possible.

I clearly stated -- you may start a separate thread of your chosen grievance.

That's very kind of you .. but regardless of any comprehension difficulties you may be experiencing my comments clearly belong in this thread, as acknowledged by the original poster, and here they will remain.

 

[جوري]

Perhaps you might choose a more relevant one. Actually both houses are on fire. Darfur is a much bigger house that has been burning a lot longer. However if the point you are struggling to make coherently is that, for the moment, the Gaza house is burning brighter, I look forward forward (with far more hope than anticipation) to a similar level of response regarding Darfur - which will still be burning - once the Gaza fire has been extinguished, or at least gotten under control, hopefully in as peaceful a fashion as possible.

relevance is a state of mind really?..
much bigger in your mind (Darfur)-- Much longer in my mind Gaza but still notice I didn't bring Gaza into the picture..
I think this paragraph I read yesterday summed it best!

Gaza's 9-11: When fighting back isn't an option

I am currently in Cambodia and took photos of some of the Killing Fields displays in Phnom Penh. They are a sad reminder of what horrors mankind is capable of committing and a powerful incentive for every man, woman and child in the world to work for peace -- starting right now!
When the World Trade Center was destroyed, Americans did everything they could to protect themselves.
When Spain's transit system was bombed, everyone throughout the world mourned.
When Britain's subways were attacked, the world stood back in shock and measures were taken.
Even Kosevo got protected. Even Somalia got aid from world organizations. Even Darfur was not begrudged the right to protect itself.
But after over 60 years of having endured attack after attack after attack after attack, Palestinians are still being scolded for trying to attempt to defend themselves and being told not to fight back.
Where's the justice in that?


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as for your 'hopes' well.. they mean jack unless you are actively doing something than parting your Buddhist wisdom on a forum?

That's very kind of you .. but regardless of any comprehension difficulties you may be experiencing my comments clearly belong in this thread, as acknowledged by the original poster, and here they will remain.

It isn't comprehension difficulty really as much as say oh the bull **** meter going up when crossing some of your posts!
Let it remain as unction to your ego, if that is all you are able to part with, I wouldn't feel right depriving you of your two P!

cheers

 

[doorster]

do damaged cells make a faultless body?

wa salaam alaikum

 

[جوري]

do damaged cells make a fault body?

wa salaam alaikum

I wouldn't be so annoyed by the 'morality squad's' drive by shooting with their BB gun if several criteria were met
1- They were actively practicing what they preach.. after all an opinion is worth its weight in goby
2- They didn't seek every opportunity to deflect away from current and ongoing calamities.
3- They weren't such staunch apologists for the guilty party, since everyone can see through the hypocrisy of that charade!

 

[doorster]

do damaged cells make a faultless body?

wa salaam alaikum

I wouldn't be so annoyed by the 'morality squad's' drive by shooting with their BB gun if several criteria were met
1- They were actively practicing what they preach.. after all an opinion is worth its weight in goby
2- They didn't seek every opportunity to deflect away from current and ongoing calamities.
3- They weren't such staunch apologists for the guilty party, since everyone can see through the hypocrisy of that charade!

hm... will need to do some consultation before replying

 

[Woodrow]

do damaged cells make a faultless body?

wa salaam alaikum

The body is weakened by just one damaged cell. A damaged cell is the start of a disease. So it is with the Ummah, if any one of us is weak or faulted, the entire Ummah is sick to some degree, and worse, the sickness can spread to other members of the Ummah.

we do need to see all Muslims as being part of the Ummah and we need to keep all of our Brothers and Sisters healthy, be it in terms of physical well being or of increased Imaan.

 

[Yanal]

^ Perhaps you need to get the wording right "faultless" wouldn't be the right words, perhaps "disabled" or the phrase "needing special care".

 

[Al-Zaara]

Should we be selective and say that we will only help the Christian children starving to death every day?

Or does justice demand that we help any child regardless of their religion, colour, or nationality? Why can’t Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and atheists work together to end world poverty?

Wish I knew..

We can send men to the moon, we can build amazingly complex machines, mankind has a great intelligence. So why are we so stupid paying billions of dollars every year to fight people when that same money could help people end poverty, injustice and so put an end to wars,

Exactly.

In the spirit of praying for justice for all people, in the spirit of remembering that we are all created by the same God, regardless of our differences

Beautiful. I pray so too!

 

[mayza]

I think we care because it's what we see on TV. I mean i was watching CNN yesterday about a girl called Moshe, if I'm not mistaken, and her Indian Nanny. Both his parents died at the Jewish center next to the hotel in the mumbai bombings. I mean, why weren't any of the indians killed had their stories told.

I'm like saying, if it doesn't deal with jewish people or the state of Israel, and this is only an assumption, that it wouldn't make it on the TV. This, in turn, produces public opinions on a subjects.

The media doesn't care about somalians, chechnyans, etc cause it doesn't relate to the Jewish people or the state of Israel.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[justahumane]

I think we care because it's what we see on TV. I mean i was watching CNN yesterday about a girl called Moshe, if I'm not mistaken, and her Indian Nanny. Both his parents died at the Jewish center next to the hotel in the mumbai bombings. I mean, why weren't any of the indians killed had their stories told.

I'm like saying, if it doesn't deal with jewish people or the state of Israel, and this is only an assumption, that it wouldn't make it on the TV. This, in turn, produces public opinions on a subjects.

The media doesn't care about somalians, chechnyans, etc cause it doesn't relate to the Jewish people or the state of Israel.

Just my 2 cents.

Well, Media is not alone to be blamed. After all they have to keep their shop in running mode. Thats why they are destined to show only well to do, rich, and cute kids only. Poor Moshe have all these qualities in him. Had they shown a black Somali or Darfurian kid playing with skull or carwling to fetch a piece of fungi-laced bread, ppls like myself cant stand to watch them and switch on to some other channel to watch likes of Moshe, in need to cry and show to the world how sensitive I m. Actually tear gland is black and poor resistant to be more precise.

 

[Muezzin]

Why do we only have tears for Gaza?

Because human beings' natural inclination is hypocricy, and we only really care about what we see, and what we see tends to be the flavour of the month, and we tend to be too lazy to seek out information about other calamities.

Compassion is fickle.

 

[The Palestinian]

Bro, let me tell you a truth
All you've saw is just "emotional" and temprory, believe me we are living in this war for 9years, but muslims did nothing but cry and send food.
And let me tell you, in Palestine everytime we dua'a in our prays we dua'a for Chechnye, Afghanistan...etc because we all in same "boat".
Bro, the biggest mistake is to think all we need is blankets and foods.
Occupation is disease, end it you'll be no longer suffering from borders and so on.

 

[jeff d]

Dear Dawud_UK:

As I have said many time, everyone deserves their freedom from opression. I think a lot of people focus on Gaza because it is in such a Holy area of the world, not really because Muslims in other places of the world are less important. Some do not know of the suffering in other places( or at least aren't familiar with the severity of it), such as Chechnya,Afghanistan,Here in the usa, and so many other places. I think many times media plays a big part in this, as they tend to point the way of current events. "care about these people, not these" type of attitude. Or the media many times neglects people in areas purposefully. This is very sad.
But, here's the good of it all.....you haven't forgotten....you feel for all your Muslim brothers and Sisters that are at the hands of tyranny. I feel for them too, as I'm sure many people of this forum do as well. I know that many times , governments like to hide this oppressive activity because they know it is wrong. I think more people cry for their forgotten Muslim Brothers and Sisters than you know. Always remember that eventually evil will be conquered, and all believers will have peace. Everyone's time will come as Allah sees fit. For now, we must pray that those suffeing fine a way to make it through. We must also pray that the oppressors have an awakening , a change of heart, and find a way to mend their wrong doing Rev. Jeff Dishong