Why do you live in the West if you hate it so?

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Re: Why do you live in a Non-Muslim Country??

You people go on about how you'd like to do hijra, but did you know you can't even get Saudi citizenship if you went to live there, imagine being treated like a second class citizen.
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yeah I haev to agree on that. People always saying that they would love to live in Saudi Arabia.. but its a whole diferent world.

Like i know one Somalie man who lived there for 20 years but he really didnt like it there.. He is mashaAllah good muslim and did like 12 times haij and 36 times umrah.
So I asked him why he leave and come to Holland.. he said the people there are not nice and arrogant..only in the times of Ramadan and Haij they are friendly.
He said especially the foreign people get discriminated and the Saudi people think low of them.

It was quite shocking for me to hear that it was so bad there, im sure not all the people are like that there but a alot are.....:X

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Re: Why do you live in a Non-Muslim Country??

Genius said:
Can practice my religon

Chicks

Easy Chicks

EDIT: Oh yeh i'm here for daawah, sweet daawah.
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how can you put all this together in one post?!!? :?

slightly conradicts itself if u ask me

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Re: Why do you live in a Non-Muslim Country??

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I live here because;

I can do what i want

Can practice my religon

Chicks

Easy Chicks

Money

Education
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What do you mean by Chicks? You mean girlfriends? If you mean this then it is completely forbidden in the Islam to have a girlfriend.

Hijrah is part of the Islam. There is enough Authentic Hadith to state this. If we want to stay in non-Muslim countries because of entertainment or Worldly advantages, then we have a lot of questioning to answer before our Lord.

We complain about living in Muslim countries, well at least we have some form of Islamic surroundings there. Within non-Muslim countries we are placed within environments where the feeling of religion is not felt. Let us look at one example: Juma'ah. Many end up missing Salatul-Juma'ah because of work or education. Within a Muslim country this would not be the case.


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Re: Why do you live in a Non-Muslim Country??

Mu'maneen said:
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We complain about living in Muslim countries, well at least we have some form of Islamic surroundings there. Within non-Muslim countries we are placed within environments where the feeling of religion is not felt. Let us look at one example: Juma'ah. Many end up missing Salatul-Juma'ah because of work or education. Within a Muslim country this would not be the case.
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this is true. I have to pray 4 salah when i get home at the moment. if we had breaks at appropriate times then it would be so much easier for me at work

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Re: Why do you live in a Non-Muslim Country??

Mu'maneen said:
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What do you mean by Chicks? You mean girlfriends? If you mean this then it is completely forbidden in the Islam to have a girlfriend.

Hijrah is part of the Islam. There is enough Authentic Hadith to state this. If we want to stay in non-Muslim countries because of entertainment or Worldly advantages, then we have a lot of questioning to answer before our Lord.

We complain about living in Muslim countries, well at least we have some form of Islamic surroundings there. Within non-Muslim countries we are placed within environments where the feeling of religion is not felt. Let us look at one example: Juma'ah. Many end up missing Salatul-Juma'ah because of work or education. Within a Muslim country this would not be the case.


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so true brother JAZAKALLAH KHAIR ........here is i want to ask one more question that's it's easy for people to pray with jamat five time a day in non muslim country .....as i heard that MASJIDs are too far from there home ........so do people use to pray with jamat ?

Remember in Prayers

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Re: Why do you live in a Non-Muslim Country??

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so true brother JAZAKALLAH KHAIR ........here is i want to ask one more question that's it's easy for people to pray with jamat five time a day in non muslim country .....as i heard that MASJIDs are too far from there home ........so do people use to pray with jamat ?

Remember in Prayers

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As-salâmu 'alaykum brother in Islâm ..

What is jamat ? Maybe i dont know it in Arabic .. :embarrass ..
 
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Din-al-Islam said:
As-salâmu 'alaykum brother in Islâm ..

What is jamat ? Maybe i dont know it in Arabic .. :embarrass ..
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Jamat, dear sister is congregational prayer

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........here is i want to ask one more question that's it's easy for people to pray with jamat five time a day in non muslim country .....as i heard that MASJIDs are too far from there home ........so do people use to pray with jamat ?
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Barak Allah Fekum Dear Brother.
Concerning your question, it really depends on the persons lifestyle. I personally advise Muslim Brothers to try their best to attend Fajr and 'Ishah Salat in the Masjid due to the magnitude of reward found in praying them in Jamat. They are usually at times we are not busy.


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He asked who prays in Jamat

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Re: Why do you live in a Non-Muslim Country??

Mu'maneen said:
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Barak Allah Fekum Dear Brother.
Concerning your question, it really depends on the persons lifestyle. I personally advise Muslim Brothers to try their best to attend Fajr and 'Ishah Salat in the Masjid due to the magnitude of reward found in praying them in Jamat. They are usually at times we are not busy.


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Why only Fazar and Isha ........as far as concerned with hadith we are necessary to pray every Salat with Jamat aren't we

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as far as concerned with hadith we are necessary to pray every Salat with Jamat aren't we
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If one can then Alhamdulellah. We are also told in Authentic Hadith that the one who works for the Muslim Ummah would receive even more reward. Let us take an example. 'Umr Al-Khuttab (Radeallahu'Anhum) walked into a Masjid and saw a Muslim sitting down. To cut a long story short, his (Radeallahu'Anhum) words were, "I look at a Muslim in higher status in Iman when I see him working to provide for his family and his Ummah than one who attends the Masjid each day relying on others when he could be doing the same as the man who works."

Therefore if we look at the consensus of Scholars, we find that if one is busy providing wealth for his family and for Muslims around them, while obviously not neglecting his prayers and other obligations, then such a Muslim would be in higher status in the eyes of Allah than one who just goes to the Masjid everyday while relying on help from others. There is one beautiful Ayat in Quran along with Tafsir that explains this beautifully. If you can, I will post it up Inshah'Allah.


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Why do you live in a Non-Muslim Country??

Basically I came in with the family package. Well if I had the opportunity to leave I would. I can’t see myself here in the next 10 years insha Allah. Hijrah is my main goal but it takes one to plan. Insha Allah Khayr.
 
Re: Why do you live in a Non-Muslim Country??

Mu'maneen said:
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If one can then Alhamdulellah. We are also told in Authentic Hadith that the one who works for the Muslim Ummah would receive even more reward. Let us take an example. 'Umr Al-Khuttab (Radeallahu'Anhum) walked into a Masjid and saw a Muslim sitting down. To cut a long story short, his (Radeallahu'Anhum) words were, "I look at a Muslim in higher status in Iman when I see him working to provide for his family and his Ummah than one who attends the Masjid each day relying on others when he could be doing the same as the man who works."

Therefore if we look at the consensus of Scholars, we find that if one is busy providing wealth for his family and for Muslims around them, while obviously not neglecting his prayers and other obligations, then such a Muslim would be in higher status in the eyes of Allah than one who just goes to the Masjid everyday while relying on help from others. There is one beautiful Ayat in Quran along with Tafsir that explains this beautifully. If you can, I will post it up Inshah'Allah.


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I agree with u brother but as i read hadith not writing here exactly just the centeral idea .....that HAZRAT MOHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM ) Said : I would like to ask young poeple to collect a lot of fuel and I burn those people houses who pray fardh Salat at home without any reason "........and one more that.......The person who miss his prayer is like that person who lost all his wealth , family because normally it's happen due to them.....

So brother u continue ....
Remember in prayers
JAZAKALLAH
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Re: Why do you live in a Non-Muslim Country??

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I agree with u brother but as i read hadith not writing here exactly just the centeral idea .....that HAZRAT MOHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM ) Said : I would like to ask young poeple to collect a lot of fuel and I burn those people houses who pray fardh Salat at home without any reason "........and one more that.......The person who miss his prayer is like that person who lost all his wealth , family because normally it's happen due to them.....
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The person who miss his prayer is like that person who lost all his wealth , family because normally it's happen due to them.....
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This refers to those who abandon the 'Asr Salat. This does not mean if you miss the Prayer in Jamat.

I would like to ask young poeple to collect a lot of fuel and I burn those people houses who pray fardh Salat at home without any reason ".
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This is when the Islamic Shari'a was established and the Muslims at that time had no reason to miss the Salat at the Masjid. As well as that many Muslims abandoned the Fajr so the rule was that to make sure that they made their Prayer together so that no one abandoned the Salat.


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Re: Why do you live in a Non-Muslim Country??

salam
live in Uk coz i was born here and allah has intended me to live here, hope inshallah to live abroad in a muslim country
wasalam
 

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