Why do you say Allah and not God?

[Silver]

I do not use God, because of the origin of the word

What's the origin of the word God?

 

[doorster]

What's the origin of the word God?

http://www.bibleanswerstand.org/God.htm

.... the word 'God' that we use for the Supreme Being, comes from a very pagan origin. ....

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=What's+the+origin+of+the+word+God

What is "Laa ilaha illallah."?
In Arabic the way to write Laa ilaha illallah is " لا اله الا الله "
See the ا (alif) in the word Allah there? The Alif could be erase, but why was it written in there? Because it is Alif lam makrifat, means that what Muslim meant by the word "Allah" is definite, not indefinite and not abstact (Nakirah).

That means Allahu Ta'ala is only the Creator, the Cherisher, the Sustainer, and the One God who owns the Asma'ul Husna which He made known through His Kitab, and through His messengers, and which He keep inside His knowledge which is Ghaib (not known but by Him).

If the writing is like this " لا اله الا لله " the alif before the lafazh Allah is erase, then it is becoming Allah the abstract, which won't be Al Ilah, the word Allah was derived from Al Ilah " ال اله" not "اله" the rule in Arabic is that when the word written the form of Nakirah means abstract, while when written in the form of Makrifat (with Al : ال) means that it is a DEFINITE noun (Isim).

So forever, Islam will never worship duality of Allah as one or Oneness of Allah in duality, or Trinity of Allah in 1 or oneness of Allah in Trinity.
Only Allah the Al Ilah, Ilah means 1 God, if 2 God: Ilahaini.


Assalamu'alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh (May peace, development, safe from guile, and Allah's mercy and His blessings be upon thee).

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?p=294978#post294978
http://www.prlog.org/10163866-asking-christians-to-answer-this.pdf



http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=What's+the+origin+of+the+word+God

 

[Woodrow]

What's the origin of the word God?

Rather then going by memory I found a source I can quote from:

Word origin: God - Our word god goes back via Germanic to Indo-European, in which a corresponding ancestor form meant “invoked one.” The word’s only surviving non-Germanic relative is Sanskrit hu, invoke the gods, a form which appears in the Rig Veda, most ancient of Hindu scriptures: puru-hutas, “much invoked,” epithet of the rain-and-thunder god Indra. (From READER’S DIGEST, Family Word Finder, page 351) (Originally published by The Reader’s Digest Association, Inc., Pleasantville New York, Montreal; Copyright (C) 1975)



Now if the sources noted above are accurate, then the word that we use for the Supreme Being, God, comes from a very pagan origin. Thus the word god is used generically by many different religions to refer to their deity or “invoked one.”



Some may laugh at the notion, the very idea that the word “God” has any origin or association with Hindu Sanskrit. To illustrate how this is possible, we again quote from ‘Family Word Finder’ on the historical development of our Modern English language:



Page 7, ‘Word Origins’ - “English belongs to the Indo-European family of languages, which consists of about 100 related tongues, all descended from prehistoric language of a pastoral, bronze working, horse breeding people, the Aryans, who inhabited the steppes of Central Asia about 4500 B.C. Scholars refer to their language at this stage as proto-Indo-European, or simply Indo-European.

Source: http://www.bibleanswerstand.org/God.htm

In addition How the early Germans used the word:

"Similarly, it is equally easy to gloss over the sordid history of many non-Arabic terms
Christians use for God. The English word “God”, for example, comes from the pagan
Germanic “Gott,” which was sued as a proper name for the chief Teutonic deity Odin,
who lives on top of the world-tree and created the first humans with his wife Freya, a
blonde, blue-eyed goddess of love, fertility and beauty. Should English speakers therefore
discontinue addressing the Most High as God? In spite of its pagan origin and its present
use for both false deities and the Most High, “God” (when capitalized) is generally
understood by English speakers as the God of the Bible, and therefore perfectly
acceptable to English-speaking Christians. Allah, by contrast, shares the same Semitic
roots as Biblical Hebrew and Aramaic, is not presently used for false deities, and clearly
understood by all Arab Christians and Muslims as the God of the Bible. Allah is therefore
a perfectly acceptable term for Arabic-speaking Christians and Muslims."

Source: http://camelmethod.com/downloads/Should%20Christians%20Use%20Allah%20in%20Bible%20Translations.pdf

Now for the big surprise before I get called anti-Christian. Both of those quotes are from Christian sites.

 

[Silver]

JazakAllah Khair. Thx I never knew the word God had pagan origins!

 

[muslimapoclyptc]

But:

by writing God with a capital G instead of god, isn't it like saying that there is only one God?
God --> Allah or al-ilah
god --> ilah
gods --> the plural of al-ilah is al aliha and Allah is derived from al-ilah.

So what's the difference?

I've always wondered about this...

To be correct, "Allah" is not a contraction of "al-ilah". "Allah" is a proper name applied to the Being Who exists necessarily, by Himself, comprising all the attributes of perfection, i.e. the Being Who is perfect in every way (in His knowledge, power etc.), and possesses the best and the noblest qualities imaginable in the highest degree.

The term "al-ilah" (the-god/deity") is a generic title, and a different word from "Allah".

 

[doorster]

To be correct, "Allah" is not a contraction of "al-ilah". "Allah" is a proper name applied to the Being Who exists necessarily, by Himself, comprising all the attributes of perfection, i.e. the Being Who is perfect in every way (in His knowledge, power etc.), and possesses the best and the noblest qualities imaginable in the highest degree.

The term "al-ilah" (the-god/deity") is a generic title, and a different word from "Allah".

can you give a reference from a linguist (other than from anti-Islam sites according to whom it is name of a pagan god worshipped by Arabs of old and Muslims of today)

following your peculiar brand of Arabic

Abdullah is not a contraction of Abdul Allah, jazakillah is not jazaki Allah, Noor-ud-deen is not noor al deen and so on and so forth

 

[muslimapoclyptc]

can you give a reference from a linguist (other than from anti-Islam sites according to whom it is name of a pagan god worshipped by Arabs of old and Muslims of today)

following your peculiar brand of Arabic

Abdullah is not a contraction of Abdul Allah, jazakillah is not jazaki Allah, Noor-ud-deen is not noor al deen and so on and so forth

Anti-Islam sites say the opposite of what I said, as their arguments are based on the name "Allah" being a contraction of "al-ilah". What I'm saying is what several Arabic-English lexicons say: That the word "Allah" is a proper name, and not a contracted word.

How can it be a contracted word if it is unique, and specific to only the one, true god? The name "Allah" has never been applied (and can never be applied) to anyone else besides Him.

 

[doorster]

Anti-Islam sites say the opposite of what I said, as their arguments are based on the name "Allah" being a contraction of "al-ilah". What I'm saying is what several Arabic-English lexicons say: That the word "Allah" is a proper name, and not a contracted word.

How can it be a contracted word if it is unique, and specific to only the one, true god? The name "Allah" has never been applied (and can never be applied) to anyone else besides Him.

name a few dictionaries/lexicons so that I can look them up too

oh BTW what did Hebrews call the Almighty? can you remind me?

 

[muslimapoclyptc]

name a few dictionaries/lexicons so that I can look them up too

There is the Dictionary of the Holy Qur'an, 1st edition, by Abdul Mannan Omar. There is also Edward William Lane's Arabic-English Lexicon.

oh BTW what did Hebrews call the Almighty? can you remind me?

It's Eloah or Elohim, correct? In Aramaic, the Almighty is called Alaha. In Arabic, the Almighty is called Allah. In English, the Almighty is called "God" with a capital "G".

"Allah" is a name/proper noun; a single, inseparable and unique word in Arabic, which has always been used to refer specifically to the Almighty by Arabic-speakers. That is an established fact.

The idea that the word "Allah" is a contraction of "al-ilah", is just that; "an idea", which is based on little more than the apparent similarity between the two terms. That is not evidence, and to assume that it's fact without solid evidence is a fallacy.

Here's an interesting article on the issue:

al-ilah = the god, Allah = God

 

[doorster]

There is the Dictionary of the Holy Qur'an, 1st edition, by Abdul Mannan Omar. There is also Edward William Lane's Arabic-English Lexicon.

after all that searching you found 2, is there not any that differ?

Abdullah is not a contraction of Abdul Allah, jazakillah is not jazaki Allah, Noor-ud-deen is not noor al deen and so on and so forth

^^could you also comment on this too please?

It's Eloah or Elohim, correct?

my actual intent was to ask whether the Muslims from time of Hz. Adam down to hz. Eesa had been using wrong terms to describe the Supreme Being, and that only after the nabuwat of Last Rasul we discovered the true "Name? or that the all originally knew him as Allah but later corrupted it in to various forms?

PS. can you also explain me the rules of idgham please?

Here's an interesting article on the issue:

al-ilah = the god, Allah = God

oh, and I believe that you misunderstood them too due to them not being very good
to me it looks like they are saying that: AL-ILAH>> the god; ALLAH which is the English "God "

 

[Silver]

"Allah" is a name/proper noun; a single, inseparable and unique word in Arabic, which has always been used to refer specifically to the Almighty by Arabic-speakers. That is an established fact.

Yes, now people use Allah as a proper noun but it's not a proper noun. It does come from the word al-ilah. Allah comes from the "Idgham" of the two L in al-ilah.

 

[muslimapoclyptc]

after all that searching you found 2, is there not any that differ?

Well, I already knew about those two. If there are any that differ, can you name them?

^^could you also comment on this too please?

None of them use the prefix "al" (meaning "the") at the beginning, and only 'Abdullah is a proper name. I'm not saying that contractions don't exist in Arabic, I'm simply saying that the name "Allah" is not a contraction.

my actual intent was to ask whether the Muslims from time of Hz. Adam down to hz. Eesa had been using wrong terms to describe the Supreme Being, and that only after the nabuwat of Last Rasul we discovered the true "Name? or that the all originally knew him as Allah but later corrupted it in to various forms?

This isn't about a "true" name, as all the names are descriptive. This is about the name "Allah", which is a unique name, and not a derivative, or a contraction, of other words.

 

[muslimapoclyptc]

Yes, now people use Allah as a proper noun but it's not a proper noun. It does come from the word al-ilah. Allah comes from the "Idgham" of the two L in al-ilah.

What is the basis for this?

 

[doorster]

Well, I already knew about those two. If there are any that differ, can you name them?



None of them use the prefix "al" (meaning "the") at the beginning, and only 'Abdullah is a proper name. I'm not saying that contractions don't exist in Arabic, I'm simply saying that the name "Allah" is not a contraction.



This isn't about a "true" name, as all the names are descriptive. This is about the name "Allah", which is a unique name, and not a derivative, or a contraction, of other words.

thank you very much you've told me all I needed to know, I'll take your leave now

 

[Silver]

What is the basis for this?

I read it in some books, but they are difficult to translate and I don't have the time to do it.
As someone who's been speaking arabic all my life, this seems obvious to me. I know that some might disagree but if you know arabic grammar than you will know what I am talking about.
Idgham is to mix to identical letters and replace them with one with a "chadda" on it.
Al-Ilah has 2 L so the became one L with a chadda on it : الله
Saying that Allah comes from Al-Ilah is not a bad thing. Ilah is used many times in the Holy Quran.

 

[Silver]

"Allah" is a name/proper noun; a single, inseparable and unique word in Arabic, which has always been used to refer specifically to the Almighty by Arabic-speakers. That is an established fact.

What proves that Allah is a proper noun and was not a contraction of al-Ilah? Why is this an established fact?

 

[muslimapoclyptc]

I read it in some books, but they are difficult to translate and I don't have the time to do it.
As someone who's been speaking arabic all my life, this seems obvious to me. I know that some might disagree but if you know arabic grammar than you will know what I am talking about.
Idgham is to mix to identical letters and replace them with one with a "chadda" on it.
Al-Ilah has 2 L so the became one L with a chadda on it : الله
Saying that Allah comes from Al-Ilah is not a bad thing. Ilah is used many times in the Holy Quran.

Yes, it would seem obvious (it did to me at first, and I don't even speak Arabic), but, it's still an assumption based on observation, and not an established fact.

What proves that Allah is a proper noun and was not a contraction of al-Ilah? Why is this an established fact?

The proof is how it is used in the Qur'an and Arabic in general, and the fact that it has only ever been applied to the Almighty. That makes it a proper name, as well as a unique one.

 

[_Rida_]

Why Muslims say ALLAH?

ALLAH is the unique word,name of ALLAH has no plural ,no antonym, no masculine & no feminine because ALLAH is one,

But Khuda ,God, Bhagvan, Devta, Lord & all other names have their plural,antonym, masculine & Feminine i.e.

God=Gods, Godess
Khuda=Khudaon,
Bhagvan=Bhagvano
Devta=Devi, Devtaon
Lord=Lords etc.,

But ALLAH is AHD(one)

 

[muslimapoclyptc]

Yes, it would seem obvious (it did to me at first, and I don't even speak Arabic), but, it's still an assumption based on observation, and not an established fact.



The proof is how it is used in the Qur'an and Arabic in general, and the fact that it has only ever been applied to the Almighty. That makes it a proper name, as well as a unique one.

Also, here is someone's refutation of the "al-ilah" contraction theory, as well as a refutation of the anti-Islam claims about the name "Allah":

Allah, Not an Etymological Contraction of al-ilah

 

[doorster]

then there are others refuting it the other way in response to it being a noun used for moongod

by the way why does it take you 2 hours from clicking reply to submit button? is it trouble with googling terms?