You're not the only one. That doesn't mean you should side with the other tyrant (Gulen). Is this all about Erdogan? All middle-eastern countries are oppressive, their governments are not muslims, we have nothing to do with them.
if someone from the local masjid goes to prison for terrorism, they are not gonna sentence all the members of that mosque for terrorism for years, as the Turks have done......we're talking about 7 day sentences (in the US) versus multiple year sentences, which the turks are doing....also, do you want to know why my uncle got arrested? for using bylock, when he doesn't even have a smartphone, and anybody with a brain would know that the bylock accusations are filthy propaganda. you trust your media, which is ranked 151st out of 180 countries in the world for press freedom, and you trust your intelligence, which is of a country that has not yet learned the true meaning of democracy or freedom....and I trust mine, the media of a free country, that has given me a good life, and whose intelligence is of a country that fought long and hard constantly for freedom. Ataturk came and offered the Turks a republic, but THEY HARDLY KNEW WHAT A REPUBLIC WAS!!!!! they lived under a rule of a sultan for most of their lives, and during the several years they didn't, it was just that, several years under ultranationalists (who took power in a coup) and then years of occupation. Turks have never fought for democracy for their own people the way the Americans have advocated in favor of civil liberties, AND THAT INCLUDES FOR MUSLIMS......yes, many Americans despise what America is doing to the Muslim world, but their voice is not heard...is there such a voice in Turkey for the (possibly brainwashed) gulenists, Armenians (whether it was a genocide or not, which I don't believe, millions died in something along the lines of a Turkish "trail of tears" like what happened to kuzey derililer (Native amercians) and had their property stolen ) kurds (who faced EXCESSIVE force as collective punishment for crimes of PKK, and were banned from speaking their own language and practicing their own culture), alevis, etc.? for those who criticize ataturk at one point, and Erdogan on another? you turks think you know so much but you have never had to struggle for anything in your entire lives, (except, ill grant you the stopping of the july 15 coup, which was likely staged) and the problem is those islamists who view the state as sacred....here in America, you can say, "nothing is sacred" but that means we have the freedom to criticize so that flaws in all ideas of the state may be outlined and made to appear. also, gulen himself condemned the coup, and took the claims of his involvement as an offense "as someone who lived through multiple military coups", and where was the intelligence reports on gulen? the minute after the coup failed, binali yildirim simply took the stage and said, "GULEN did it...let us unite" do you even have any idea how these gulenist "cells" operate?????? whether turkey will come to itself through an economic crisis, or through a bloody civil war...I don't know....but it can be compared to a mother going through painful pregnancy for 9 months and 10 days, and then a painful delivery, then the joys and pains of motherhood...
gulen is not a tyrant, silly, he is an imam and religious scholar....to be a tyrant, you have to be the leader of a nation or terrorist organization
also, the images on the internet of one of the supposed leaders of the coup is on the internet, and you can see he is badly bruised and bloody...this can possibly they tortured him to obtain his testimony....which happens under any authoritarian regime. also, red and watch this...
did you know that Erdogan openly said he supports al Qaeda, by saying "why do you call al nusra terrorists???" when al nusra (as it was formerly named) was the Syrian branch of al Qaeda????? he also was involved in a corruption scandal, although God knows how stressful it is living in Turkey, you must have forgotten about it by now...
i am not mentally unstable, i have autism and ADHD....second, gulen movement did not try to overthrow the "democratically elected government of turkey," (elections rigged, no coup by gulenists), and i have provided sources for you to learn from, but you dismiss it in the name of Turkish nationalist nonsense....you dismiss any source i put out, because "the west is killing muslims".....so anyone who kills muslims is lying, right? well, what do you think muslims are doing to each other? they're eating each other alive......and dont act like aljazeera is such a reliable source.....or that the turkish media is such a reliable source.....and i find it highly unlikely that an intelligence community would make up lies against erdogan, especially when turkish intelligence is banned from speaking....
