Why don't Muslims respect the rights of non Muslims and "heretics"?

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Mustafa16 said:
Yes, and a Sunni one. But I was referring more to the present day, not the days of (direct) colonialism.
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how many nonmuslims have been killed by Muslims in last 2 decades, i wish to see reality of this allegation, In sha Allah
 
[MENTION=38474]Mustafa16[/MENTION] : ''Landmark research proves that the US-led ‘war on terror’ has killed as many as 2 million people, but this is a fraction of Western responsibility for deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan over the last two decadesLast month, the Washington DC-based Physicians for Social Responsibility (PRS) released a landmark studyconcluding that the death toll from 10 years of the “War on Terror” since the 9/11 attacks is at least 1.3 million, and could be as high as 2 million........... http://www.middleeasteye.net/column...ave-killed-four-million-muslims-1990-39149394
 
azc said:
how many nonmuslims have been killed by Muslims in last 2 decades, i wish to see reality of this allegation, In sha Allah
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What this kind of matter has to do with treating non-Muslims and minorities with respect? How many "they" have killed doesn´t justify "us" to mistreat others.
 
sister herb said:
What this kind of matter has to do with treating non-Muslims and minorities with respect? How many "they" have killed doesn´t justify "us" to mistreat others.
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his discussion is not limited to respect or disrespect
 
Anyways, we should seek our way out from kind of thinking that the mankind is divided into the two parts: we and them. We should actively looking for what is common between us, not what separate us. Now we all have locked to the two pole thinking: non-Muslims and Muslims, shias and sunnis, Christians and Muslims, minorities and majorities. We all are human beings and time of separation to different clans, groups etc. only keeps us separated and help those whose find some personal benefits from this kind of separation happy and satisfied.

Well, kind of world where all people see themselves as part of "us all" is still far in the future. Unfortunately.
 
sister herb said:
Anyways, we should seek our way out from kind of thinking that the mankind is divided into the two parts: we and them. We should actively looking for what is common between us, not what separate us. Now we all have locked to the two pole thinking: non-Muslims and Muslims, shias and sunnis, Christians and Muslims, minorities and majorities. We all are human beings and time of separation to different clans, groups etc. only keeps us separated and help those whose find some personal benefits from this kind of separation happy and satisfied.

Well, kind of world where all people see themselves as part of "us all" is still far in the future. Unfortunately.
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Well to be honest, i do think of we and them.

Definition of we?
People who are honest, being Muslim, Christian, Jew, atheist, agnostic, Hindu ..you name it.

Definition of them?
People who are dishonest, being Muslim, Christian, Jew, Atheist, Agnostic, Hindu..you name it.
 
I think the title should be "why don't people respect the rights of other people".

I'm unsure why religion is brought into it. I am sure if you researched far and wide, most religions have been perpetrators against another religion at some point.

The title makes it sound like Muslims are nothing but a bunch of savages who go round battering people and pinching everything they own and killing everything in sight which is completely untrue.
 
azc said:
how many nonmuslims have been killed by Muslims in last 2 decades, i wish to see reality of this allegation, In sha Allah
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how many Muslims have been killed by Muslims in the last 2 decades? How many have been tortured, jailed unjustly, etc.?
 
Mustafa16 said:
how many Muslims have been killed by Muslims in the last 2 decades? How many have been tortured, jailed unjustly, etc.?
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it is said, '' all Muslims aren't terrorists but all terrorists are Muslims'' therefore, Nobody kills a Muslim but Muslim... Cheer up Man...!
 
azc said:
it is said, '' all Muslims aren't terrorists but all terrorists are Muslims'' therefore, Nobody kills a Muslim but Muslim... Cheer up Man...!
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do you have any idea what people in the gulen jamaat my family is a part of has had to go through at the hands of dictator Erdogan, all because of stupid lies and false accusations of an unfree media?
 
Mustafa16 said:
do you have any idea what people in the gulen jamaat my family is a part of has had to go through at the hands of dictator Erdogan, all because of stupid lies and false accusations of an unfree media?
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Now you've taken U turn. All your allegations on Muslims are narrowed down to what is happening in turkey against guleten. I don't know what is the internal conflict your country is facing. If your community is being targeted by government unjustly, then it's wrong. I've full sympathy with you and your community but this link says something else... http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/op...p-attempt-happened-night-160721132018415.html
 
azc said:
Now you've taken U turn. All your allegations on Muslims are narrowed down to what is happening in turkey against guleten. I don't know what is the internal conflict your country is facing. If your community is being targeted by government unjustly, then it's wrong. I've full sympathy with you and your community but this link says something else... http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/op...p-attempt-happened-night-160721132018415.html
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first of all, Aljazeera is a load of baloney and is a mouth piece for sunni extremists......second, it is not just gulenists....bahais, people in Darfur, ahmadis, Syrians, Iraqis, Yazidis, Christians, sunni vs shia, jews, south Asians in gulf states, blacks in gulf states, etc.
 
Mustafa16 said:
first of all, Aljazeera is a load of baloney and is a mouth piece for sunni extremists......second, it is not just gulenists....bahais, people in Darfur, ahmadis, Syrians, Iraqis, Yazidis, Christians, sunni vs shia, jews, south Asians in gulf states, blacks in gulf states, etc.
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who are behind the curtain....? Scroll it a bit....
 
azc said:
@Mustafa 16 : plz read it https://www.islamicboard.com/general/134344669-book.html#post2951888
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so Jewish people are trying to take over the world since 1903? first off, the overwhelming consensus of historians is that it is a forgery. second, I find it laughable that a book written by the same people who were committing pograms against the Jewish people, could possibly claim that the Jews were, at the time of their persecution, plotting to overthrow the world governments.....it was simply made up by the Russian elite who were abusing their OWN people (the Russians) by forcing the majority of people into serfdom while the few enjoyed luxury, to justify their oppression. keep in mind the same people who supported that book, opposed the "Zionist lenin"......at the time when communism was on the rise....how convenient....
 
[MENTION=38240]azc[/MENTION] the primary problems with the Islamist that they blame all of their problems on other people, be it jews, Christians, americans, Zionists, etc....and they will shove their beliefs down others throats all the while they themselves do not practice what they preach, nor act morally in general.
 
Mustafa16 said:
so Jewish people are trying to take over the world since 1903? first off, the overwhelming consensus of historians is that it is a forgery. second, I find it laughable that a book written by the same people who were committing pograms against the Jewish people, could possibly claim that the Jews were, at the time of their persecution, plotting to overthrow the world governments.....it was simply made up by the Russian elite who were abusing their OWN people (the Russians) by forcing the majority of people into serfdom while the few enjoyed luxury, to justify their oppression. keep in mind the same people who supported that book, opposed the "Zionist lenin"......at the time when communism was on the rise....how convenient....
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your comments regarding this book are welcomed in in its thread
 
azc said:
Now you've taken U turn. All your allegations on Muslims are narrowed down to what is happening in turkey against guleten. I don't know what is the internal conflict your country is facing. If your community is being targeted by government unjustly, then it's wrong. I've full sympathy with you and your community but this link says something else... http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/op...p-attempt-happened-night-160721132018415.html
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also, gulenists don't believe gulen is the Mahdi, I have not once heard a gulenist claim that gulen was the Mahdi.
 

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