"Why has Allah forbidden eating Pork?"

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Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

It doesnt matter anyway, Allah made it haraam and haraam is haraam.... fish is halaal so halaal is halaal!!!
lol@heigou

I think you give the best argument, that Allah made it haraam for Muslims. Trying to explain the pork prohibition to Christians by any other means is going to be difficult.
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

Exactly. If you have faith that your religion/way of life is correct, then you must trust in Allah that He knows best. He is after all 'The All-Knowing'.
-Peace
 
Re: Eating pork is linked to Atheism.

Actually Jesus specifically and clearly says it does not matter what you eat. The OT forbids it but the NT does not.

And if you read the entire thread you would see that is not the case.
 
Re: Eating pork is linked to Atheism.

Well the theory is not that much different to abrogation in Islam. Jesus came to "fulfill" the Law which is to say, abrogate parts of it and replace those parts with better bits. Specifically to change a focus on the letter of the Law to the spirit. So it does not matter what goes into your mouth, it matters what comes out and what is in your heart. Or at least that is my understanding. You may want to check with a Christian.

No, Jesus,pbuh, clearly said not ONE letter or dot would be changed and he did not come to destroy the law of the prophets before Him, He came to fulfill it. Again, if you had read the entire thread you would have seen that here:
So it does not matter what goes into your mouth, it matters what comes out and what is in your heart.
He is referring to words and is referring to the hyprocacy of the Pharasees. It has nothing to do with unclean meat, but started with discussing unclean hands.

Hana
 
Re: Eating pork is linked to Atheism.

He is referring to words and is referring to the hyprocacy of the Pharasees. It has nothing to do with unclean meat, but started with discussing unclean hands.

Hana

Most Christians do not view it as you do. It can be a reference to unclean meat.
 
Re: Eating pork is linked to Atheism.

Well, I kind of doubt that. Who claims otherwise?

Your bible claims otherwise, as shown in previous threads. Again, not MY iinterpretation.
 
Re: Eating pork is linked to Atheism.

Most Christians do not view it as you do. It can be a reference to unclean meat.

It is obviously not about unclean meat....all you have to do is start with the first verse, read it in context. It is CLEARLY referring to the hypocracy of the comments made by the pharasees.

Peace
Hana
 
Re: Eating pork is linked to Atheism.

Your bible claims otherwise, as shown in previous threads. Again, not MY iinterpretation.

It is not my Bible and it clearly does not claim otherwise. I do not know what threads you mean. Would you mind giving me a reference?
 
Re: Eating pork is linked to Atheism.

It is obviously not about unclean meat....all you have to do is start with the first verse, read it in context. It is CLEARLY referring to the hypocracy of the comments made by the pharasees.

And what context would that be other than a Christian one?
 
Re: Eating pork is linked to Atheism.

No, Jesus,pbuh, clearly said not ONE letter or dot would be changed and he did not come to destroy the law of the prophets before Him, He came to fulfill it. Again, if you had read the entire thread you would have seen that here:

I did not say He changing one letter or one dot. I said He came to fulfil the Law. Which He said He did.

He is referring to words and is referring to the hyprocacy of the Pharasees. It has nothing to do with unclean meat, but started with discussing unclean hands.

And yet the shift in interpretation as applied to hands means a shift in interpretation as applied to other things. Either the letter of the law is vital or it is not. You cannot demean that passage by arguing it only applies to hands.
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

Christians often interpret the passage to apply to unclean meat. It will be hard for a Muslim (or any non-Christian) to convince a Christian that their interpretation is incorrect. That is as bold as a Christian stating that they know the accurate interpretation of the Koran, which differs from the Muslim interpretation.
 
Re: Eating pork is linked to Atheism.

And what context would that be other than a Christian one?
You can argue for the sake of arguing as you normall do, HeiGou, up to you. But, I'm sure you understand the meaning of context and do not need it explained to you.

Hana
 
Re: Eating pork is linked to Atheism.

It is not my Bible and it clearly does not claim otherwise. I do not know what threads you mean. Would you mind giving me a reference?

I said threads, I mean posts: #45, #66 and #74. You wanna believe it doesn't, that too is up you.

Eat pork, be happy. :D

Hana
 
Re: Eating pork is linked to Atheism.

You can argue for the sake of arguing as you normall do, HeiGou, up to you. But, I'm sure you understand the meaning of context and do not need it explained to you.

Well I don't think I do argue for the sake of it. Look at all the threads I steer clear of. But you have to admit it is ironic that a Muslim ought to be telling an crypto-atheist about what the Bible really means.

The context is clear and is clearly part of Jesus' larger message - the actually specifically letter of the law does not matter compared to what is meant and felt. See the Good Samaritan.
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

Christians often interpret the passage to apply to unclean meat. It will be hard for a Muslim (or any non-Christian) to convince a Christian that their interpretation is incorrect. That is as bold as a Christian stating that they know the accurate interpretation of the Koran, which differs from the Muslim interpretation.

Peace Searchingsoul:

As I have said many times, this is not my interpretation. You want to dismiss it using the excuse "a Muslim said", up to you. I didn't just copy and paste from a christian bashing site, I didn't go through the bible picking out verses. I read what biblical scholars said, then checked the verses for myself.

Christians "often" interpreting as something is fine....the choice is yours. But, I looked it up for myself and if and others did the same you would see what the verse is talking about and it isn't unclean meat. But, hey, you want to interpret it as meat and eat it....completely up to you. I just told you what I found and for me personally, it makes perfect sense. If it doesn't for you...so be it. :)

With peace,
Hana
 
Re: Eating pork is linked to Atheism.

Well I don't think I do argue for the sake of it. Look at all the threads I steer clear of. But you have to admit it is ironic that a Muslim ought to be telling an crypto-atheist about what the Bible really means.

The context is clear and is clearly part of Jesus' larger message - the actually specifically letter of the law does not matter compared to what is meant and felt. See the Good Samaritan.
LOOOOOOOL for the millionth time, this is NOT MY INTERPRETATION and I never claimed it to be. I posted the verses with the interpretation from biblical scholars. As a former Christian myself these are typical of the questions I had that wouldn't/couldn't be answered.

Yes, the context is clear that He is referring to unclean hands. Turn it to mean meat, turn it to mean whatever you want, accept them or don't....not my problem or concern.

I just posted the verses, you want to dismiss them...go for it, it's your right and it doesn't effect me in the least. :)

Hana
 
From Dr. Zakir Naik:

http://www.islamicvoice.com/february.99/zakir.htm

Questions Commonly Asked by Non-Muslims - VI : Why is Pork Forbidden? By Dr. Zakir Naik

Question: Why is the eating of pork forbidden in Islam?

Answer: The fact that consumption of pork is prohibited in Islam is well known. The following points explain various aspects of this prohibition:

1. Pork-prohibited in Qur’an

The Qur’an prohibits the consumption of pork in no less than 4 different places. Its prohibited in 2:173, 5:3, 6:145 and 16:115.

Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked a name other than that of Allah. [Al-Qur’an 5:3] The above verses of the Holy Qur’an are sufficient to satisfy a Muslim as to why pork is forbidden.

2. Pork prohibited in the Bible

The Christian is likely to be convinced by his religious scriptures. The Bible prohibits the consumption of pork, in the book of Leviticus and the swine, as he divideth the hoof, and be cloven footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you. Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch, they are unclean to you. Leviticus chapter 11 verse 7 and 8:
Pork is also prohibited in the book of Deuteronomy

And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you. Ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass. Deuteronomy chapter 14 verse 8:

A similar prohibition is repeated in the book of Isaiah chapter 65 verse 2-5.

3. Consumption of pork causes several diseases

The other non-Muslims and atheists will agree only if convinced through reason, logic and science. Eating of pork can cause no less than seventy different types of diseases. A person can have various Helminthes, like roundworm, pinworm, hookworm, etc. One of the most dangerous is Taenia Solium, which in a layman’s terminology is called tapeworm. It harbours in the intestine and is very long. Its ova i.e. eggs, enter the blood stream and can reach almost all the organs of the body. If it enters the brain it can cause memory loss. If it enters the heart it can cause heart attack and if it enters the eye it can cause blindness. If it enters the liver it can cause liver damage. It can damage almost all the organs of the body.

Another dangerous helminthes is Taenia Tichurasis. A common misconception about pork is that if it is cooked well, these ova die. In a research project undertaken in America, it was found that out of twenty-four people suffering from

Taenia tichurasis, twenty two had cooked the pork very well. This indicates that the ovas present in the pork do not die under normal cooking temperature.

4. Pork has fat building material

Pork has very little muscle building material and contains excess of fat. This fat gets deposited in the vessels and can cause hypertension and heart attack. It is not surprising that over 50% of Americans suffer from hypertension.

5. Pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth

The pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth. It lives and thrives on muck, faeces and dirt. It is the best scavenger that I know that God has produced. In the villages they don’t have modern toilets and the villagers excrete in the open air. Very often excreta is cleared by pigs.

Some may argue that in advanced countries like Australia, pigs are bred in very clean and hygienic conditions. Even in these hygienic conditions the pigs are kept together in sties. No matter how hard you try to keep them clean they are filthy by nature. They eat and enjoy their own as well as their neighbour’s excreta.

6. Pig is the most shameless animal

The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate. It feels no jealousy. And among people who consume pork, the practice of wife swapping and other forms of promiscuous behaviour is common.
 
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6. Pig is the most shameless animal

The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate. It feels no jealousy. And among people who consume pork, the practice of wife swapping and other forms of promiscuous behaviour is common.

I love this claim. This nonsense keeps coming back but it still ain't true. Wild boar have large tusks that can kill horses. They use them for, among other things, goring any other male pig that comes close to their females. They are dangerous animals and have killed people, kings even. They do not share their females with anyone.

And I love the idea that eating pork makes the Chinese swap wives.
 
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