"Why has Allah forbidden eating Pork?"

  • Thread starter Thread starter meknesi
  • Start date Start date
  • Replies Replies 503
  • Views Views 61K
Status
Not open for further replies.
Re: Why is pork forbidden?

Mujahid



Please do not ridicule Islam with such a belief from the Middle-Ages. We are in the XXIst century. Shake off your dust or go back to school.

the time and age has nothing to do wiv nething, its people that change not religion! something you should ponder!!!!
 
Re: Why is pork forbidden?

Pr4se



What do you mean by that ?

people are always telling muslims to adapt to the new age!

"accept the cartoons of our prophet as freespeech"

see these people are changing, they are becoming more and more shameless day by day! Look at our women, 30 years ago a woman showing a bit of leg would be considered a prostitute! so that is what i mean by tis people that change and not religion.
 
Re: Why is pork forbidden?

The point is ..if you eat pig...you behave like a pig. pig is the only animal that goes around and has sex with th rest of the sow(female pig)...or in other words switches his girlfriend every night...

Thats a joke right?

Think your find there are only a few animals in the animal kingdom that stay with one partner for there life!
 
Re: Why is pork forbidden?

The point is ..if you eat pig...you behave like a pig. pig is the only animal that goes around and has sex with th rest of the sow(female pig)...or in other words switches his girlfriend every night...the kind of society we see today in america and europe. and people have gone to pig farms to see exactly what they do..and i personally know a scholar who went there once...its not something wrong..if you wanna confront the pig eaters..u need to examine everything...this answers the doubts of justahumane

Virtually all animals do that if given a chance. Geese for instance do not. But the majority of large domestic animals preside over a harem which they will jealously guard. I have not noticed Europeans behaving like this just because they eat chicken or beef.

Moreover if we really behave like the food we eat, isn't it time to stop eating potatos?
 
Re: Why is pork forbidden?

Quote:
Originally Posted by moujahid
The point is ..if you eat pig...you behave like a pig. pig is the only animal that goes around and has sex with th rest of the sow(female pig)...or in other words switches his girlfriend every night...the kind of society we see today in america and europe. and people have gone to pig farms to see exactly what they do..and i personally know a scholar who went there once...its not something wrong..if you wanna confront the pig eaters..u need to examine everything...this answers the doubts of justahumane

Posted by HeiGou
Virtually all animals do that if given a chance. Geese for instance do not. But the majority of large domestic animals preside over a harem which they will jealously guard. I have not noticed Europeans behaving like this just because they eat chicken or beef.

Moreover if we really behave like the food we eat, isn't it time to stop eating potatos?

Well brother Moujahid, No, doubt is still there. In fact I know that whatever Dr. Zakir Naik has said about abnormal sexual behaviour of pigs is wrong/applicable to all other animals. What worries me that he speaks such filthy lies after starting his discource with BISMILLAH, and that too in presence of lots of sisters. This is a strong indication of a fact that Dr. Zakir Naik, who is cosidered among the best scholers of our times, is not even an average muslim, not the less a great islamic scholer. And this is not the only time he has spoken a lie in his discource, he is habitual liar, and what makes the things worse that he speaks lies in the name of ALLAH.............how sad for muslims around the world who take islamic inspirations from him.

Thanks brother HeiGou for providing the information.
 
Last edited:
Re: Why is pork forbidden?

Well brother Moujahid, No, doubt is still there. In fact I know that whatever ........has said about abnormal sexual behaviour of pigs is wrong/applicable to all other animals. What worries me that hespeaks such ...........lies after starting his discource
Thanks brother HeiGou for providing the information.

Here is the verse that prohibits pork:
He hath only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and that on which any other name hath been invoked besides that of God. But if one is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits,- then is he guiltless. For God is Oft-forgiving Most Merciful.[2:173]

Has Allah told any reason for the prohibition?
Nor have we got any authentic Ahadith in this regard?
Therefore, however giant a scholar may be to the mass, if he says "Ureka ! I've invented through scientific reasearch the reason why God has forbidden it !", he'll be simply lying or attributing lies to God. A believer must control excesses or he may fall in the category of those about whom Allah says:"Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from God," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do write, and for the gain they make thereby."[2:79]
 
Last edited:
Re: Why is pork forbidden?

kno wanna wants to chew on a pig, i wonder why this discussion is still goin on :rollseyes
 
Re: Why is pork forbidden?

Pr4se

Hundreds of millions of people want to chew on a pig.
If you don't like the discussion just leave it.

then chew on it, we said everythin there is to say lol, tahts all im sayin

sry if i caused offence, plz forgive :)
 
Re: Why is pork forbidden?

Forbidden to you are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine.......

2:173 He hath only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and that on which any other name hath been invoked besides that of God. But if one is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits,- then is he guiltless. For God is Oft-forgiving Most Merciful.

5:3 Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than God; that which hath been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; that which hath been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it (in due form); that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows: that is impiety. This day have those who reject faith given up all hope of your religion: yet fear them not but fear Me. This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But if any is forced by hunger, with no inclination to transgression, God is indeed Oft-forgiving, Most Mercifu.

6:145 Say: "I find not in the message received by me by inspiration any (meat) forbidden to be eaten by one who wishes to eat it, unless it be dead meat, or blood poured forth, or the flesh of swine,- for it is an abomination - or, what is impious, (meat) on which a name has been invoked, other than God's". But (even so), if a person is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits,- thy Lord is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

16:115 He has only forbidden you dead meat, and blood, and the flesh of swine, and any (food) over which the name of other than God has been invoked. But if one is forced by necessity, without wilful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits,- then God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
 
Re: Why is pork forbidden?

eating any animal should be wrong, why should we kill certain animals? and not others?
our teeth are made to eat vegitation, just as a horses are, lions teeth are made to eat flesh. just as our digestive system is made to digest vegitation only unlike meat eaters digestive system. protien can be found in vegitables too and even though we manage to digest meat , its only after it decays inside you after many days, this can lead to other diseases.
my two cents
 
Re: Why is pork forbidden?

eating any animal should be wrong, why should we kill certain animals? and not others?

That surely is an argument for eating many animals, not none?

our teeth are made to eat vegitation, just as a horses are, lions teeth are made to eat flesh. just as our digestive system is made to digest vegitation only unlike meat eaters digestive system. protien can be found in vegitables too and even though we manage to digest meat , its only after it decays inside you after many days, this can lead to other diseases.

Our teeth are not made to eat vegetation. As can easily be seen, we lack the proper grinding molars of true herbivores. Nor are our teeth replaceable after childhood which indicates that we were not meant to eat a lot of vegetation. I admit we do not have teeth exactly like lions, but what we do have is a half-way house between the two indicating our omnivorous history.

And of course our digestion system is poorly adapted to deal with hard core vegetation. We do not have three stomachs. We do not deal with fibre very well. And we have no problems whatsoever digesting meat. If meat stays in your stomach for three days there is something wrong with you.
 
Re: Why is pork forbidden?

That surely is an argument for eating many animals, not none?



Our teeth are not made to eat vegetation. As can easily be seen, we lack the proper grinding molars of true herbivores. Nor are our teeth replaceable after childhood which indicates that we were not meant to eat a lot of vegetation. I admit we do not have teeth exactly like lions, but what we do have is a half-way house between the two indicating our omnivorous history.

And of course our digestion system is poorly adapted to deal with hard core vegetation. We do not have three stomachs. We do not deal with fibre very well. And we have no problems whatsoever digesting meat. If meat stays in your stomach for three days there is something wrong with you.

well i suggest you should google it and find out for yourself, otherwise islam does not go with science?
 
Re: Why is pork forbidden?

Our teeth are not made to eat vegetation. As can easily be seen, we lack the proper grinding molars of true herbivores. Nor are our teeth replaceable after childhood which indicates that we were not meant to eat a lot of vegetation. I admit we do not have teeth exactly like lions, but what we do have is a half-way house between the two indicating our omnivorous history.

And of course our digestion system is poorly adapted to deal with hard core vegetation. We do not have three stomachs. We do not deal with fibre very well. And we have no problems whatsoever digesting meat. If meat stays in your stomach for three days there is something wrong with you.

I agree, I've just been studying this in biology, our teeth are half way between carnivores and herbivores, we have sharp canines for tearing but flatter incisors for biting. Also, in our digestive system, we don't have the same enzymes as herbivores have for digesting plant matter and we have a really small appendix which has no function (used for digesting plant matter in herbivores).

I have no problem with vegetarians by the way, its a personal choice obviously. Its just a lot of the signs point to us being omnivorous.

http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/omni.htm (off a veggie website as well, surprising)

I know there are lots of articles saying that human are herbivores, but I think they are only giving one side of the story.
 
Why Islam Forbids Pork?

as-salaam alaykum

Food and drink have direct effect on our health. That is why Islam has prescribed regulations about our food and drink. It lays great emphasis on our physical as well as moral health, because both of these are equally important for a healthy society. The abstention from eating pork is one of the steps taken by Islam to practise hygiene and to attain purity of soul.

Islam, for the cultivation of inner faculties, insists upon the cleanliness of body and the purification of soul through Salaat (prayers) Zikr (remembrance of Allah) and other devotional duties. Islam teaches us how to attain the virtues and how to give up bad habits because both good and bad grow in the man according to his upbringing, education and environment.

A human being has natural desires: food, sleep and sex being the three primary ones. He has also other natural emotions: sorrow, happiness, love, fear, disgust and avarice etc. Islam doesn't recommend the complete abrogation of these impulses but offers a method of controlling them through religious education and discipline.

The prohibition of eating pork in Islam is relevant in this context. There is a saying in English that "a man becomes what he eats." According to physicians and medical experts, pork is a harmful diet. Consumption of swine-flesh creates lowliness in character and destroys moral and spiritual faculties in a man.


Body and Soul

The life of a man is a compound of body and soul. Anything, which is harmful for the body, hurts the soul as well. Consumption of swine-flesh reduces the feeling of shame and as such the standard of modesty. Those nations, which consume pork habitually, have a low standard of morality with the result that virginity, chastity and bashfulness are becoming a thing of the past in Europe today. The number of unwed mothers is on the increase despite of the use of pills and other contraceptives.

According to a report, 60 to 70% of girls in Sweden become mothers before marriage. The formula of "skin to skin is no sin" is taking its toll but there is hardly any feeling of shame or remorse over the end-result. Since the European nations have become addicted to wine and pork, sexual freedom with all its attendant evils has got ingrained in their culture. Consequently, homosexuality has been legalized by the British Parliament.

The Holy Qur'an has prohibited the swine-flesh, hence the Muslims would not dare touch it. The Bible has also forbidden swine-flesh, but Christians disregarded this order and started consuming it. The Europeans now proclaim that pork is a very powerful diet, rich in protein. Some of them further argue that since there is a great scarcity of food-stuff in the world and swines are available in abundant quantity, they should be consumed in the diet to overcome the food shortage. If this argument is true, why don't they use dog's meat as dogs too are available in abundance? The Europeans perhaps hate the mere mention of dog's meat in the same way as the Muslims shun pork.

Another wrong notion about swine-flesh is that its consumption lengthens life-span, although this is a pure myth and absurdity. On the contrary, people, who abstain from pork and liquor, have a longer span of life. The Muslims in Central Asia bear a testimony to this truth.

However, in the consumption of flesh Muslims are required to be selective and to distinguish between Halaal (Lawful) and Haraam (Unlawful). This step leads automatically to the deeper understanding of the need for the cultivation of a pure human nature. As blood is virtually our life-stream and whatever we consume ultimately affects the blood system, it is, therefore, necessary to exercise choice in the selection of our food and drinks as part of the requirements of the Shariah.

There are certain food and drinks specified by Allah, and His Messenger Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) as forbidden. The prohibition of these food and drinks is not by any means an arbitrary action or an unwarranted decree of Allah. It is the first and foremost a divine intervention in the best interest of man and for his own benefit.

The reasons behind the Divine intervention are numerous. They are of a nature intellectual and spiritual, moral and mental, physical and economic. And the sole purpose is to show man how to develop himself according to an upright course of life in order to be a healthy unit in the structure of the family, then of society and eventually of humanity at large.

Reliable medical doctors and social scientists are able to realize how those food and drinks forbidden by Islam are harmful and destructive to the human spirit and morality as well as to the physique and moral fibre of man and to verify the benefits of Islamic legislations on the subjects.

The prohibition is based on the aim of the purification of one's nature, because food, when consumed, doesn't merely enter the stomach and intestines and become excreta. It is absorbed and metabolized into the system and circulated to all parts of the human body, including the brain, and this in no small way affects man's nature.

Take a look at the nature of the pig for example. The pig is naturally lazy and indulgent in sex, it is dirty, greedy and gluttonous. It dislikes sunlight and lacks the spirit and will to "fight." It eats almost anything, be it human excreta or anything foul and unwholesome. Amongst all animal flesh, pork is the favoured cradle of harmful germs. Pork also serves as a carrier of diseases to mankind. It is for this reason that its flesh is not suitable for consumption.

Some people have argued that the "modern pig" reared in farms is given only clean foods, therefore, its flesh should be consumable. The answer is that you may feed the pig on clean, wholesome food, but you can't change its nature. It is still a pig and will always stay so. A pig is not a plant and you cannot change it by bud-grafting.


Medical Reports

Dr. E. Kazim. M.D. in his article "Medical aspects of forbidden foods in Islam" (July 1981 issue of Muslim Journal has described diseases carried or caused by the flesh of the swine.

He writes:

The pig is a scavenger. It is an omnivorous animal. It eats everything. There are many diseases carried from swine to man, particularly parasite infestations. Lately extensive research has been focused on senility-old age is characterized by hardening of inner lining of the blood vessels of the heart, brain etc. a process called atheroselerosis. When a clot forms, it results in coronary thrombosis or a heart attack, cerebral thrombosis or stroke.

Different dietary factors are responsible for atheroselerosis. Gross atheroma may be produced in rabbit by feeding it with cholesterol, but when you add lard (derived from hog fat) to the cholesterol, the incidence of atheroma is increased and thus you would produce coronary thrombosis, and myocardial infraction.

Besides, lard contains 2800 units of vitamin D per 100 grams and no vitamin A at all. Lately vitamin D has been held responsible for atheroma, by causing increased absorption of calcium in the blood vessels. In human beings, serum cholesterol is not dependent on the intake of cholesterol in the diet, but depends upon the proportion of animal fats in the diet, which elevates the beta-lipo protein level in the blood. Animal fats contain saturated fatty acids and these saturated fatty acids have been found to be as one of the causes of atheroma in man. Medium fat bacon contains 25% proteins and 55% fat.

According to medical research, the fat content in pork is more than any other meat (beef, mutton etc.) and it takes longer to digest. Dr. M Jaffer in an article in the Islamic Review (London) of January 1997 issue has listed 16 kinds of harmful germs, which have been discovered in pork in modern researches and the diseases, which could be caused by them. The number of patients suffering from tapeworm disease is the highest in the world among pork eating nations. Other diseases attributed to pigs are caused by tri-chinelia spirates and intestinal worms occupy first place among such nations too.

Dr. Glen Shepherd wrote the following on the dangers of eating pork in Washington Post (31 May 1952).

"One in six people in USA and Canada have germs in their muscles - trichinosis 8 from eating pork infected with trichina worms. Many people who are infected shows no symptoms. Most of those, who do have, recover slowly. Some die; some are reduced to permanent invalids. All were careless pork caters".

He continued "No one is immune from the disease and there is no cure. Neither antibiotics nor drugs or vaccines affect these tiny deadly worms. Preventing infection is the real answer."

After reading the statement of Dr. Shepherd, one can realize that there is no real guarantee of safety when eating pork that one would not be affected by trichina worm. That is why modern doctors advise three prohibitions during illness: no liquor, no pork and no smoking.

Muslims follow the divine law which is much higher than the medical advice. The Glorious Qur'an says, "So eat of the lawful and good food which Allah has provided for you, and thank the bounty of your Lord if it is Him you serve. He has forbidden for you only carrion and blood and swine-flesh and that which has been immolated in the name of any other than Allah; but he who is driven thereto, neither craving nor transgressing, Lo! then Allah is Forgiving, Merciful." (16:114-115)

The above is the order from the Creator of the universe and the Supreme Law-Giver. All Muslims are under the obligation to obey it. This is a plain and straightforward answer to those, who usually ask why Muslims abstain from eating pork. Nevertheless, there is no sin, if a Muslims is forced by famine or starvation to eat pork in order to save his life.

wa-salaam alaykum:sister:
 
Re: Why Islam Forbids Pork?

Consumption of swine-flesh reduces the feeling of shame and as such the standard of modesty.

And the evidence for this is?

Those nations, which consume pork habitually, have a low standard of morality with the result that virginity, chastity and bashfulness are becoming a thing of the past in Europe today. The number of unwed mothers is on the increase despite of the use of pills and other contraceptives.

And yet pork has been freely available in the West for 2000 years when rates of unwed mothers was considerably lower. Pork is a major part of the diet of East Asia and China, Japan and Korea had extremely low rates of unwed Mothers (and mostly still do).

Since the European nations have become addicted to wine and pork, sexual freedom with all its attendant evils has got ingrained in their culture. Consequently, homosexuality has been legalized by the British Parliament.

If porks causes that why isn't homosexuality legal in China where pork is the major form of meat? Why wasn't homosexuality legal in Europe 2000 years ago?

If this argument is true, why don't they use dog's meat as dogs too are available in abundance? The Europeans perhaps hate the mere mention of dog's meat in the same way as the Muslims shun pork.

I don't see why not.

Another wrong notion about swine-flesh is that its consumption lengthens life-span, although this is a pure myth and absurdity. On the contrary, people, who abstain from pork and liquor, have a longer span of life. The Muslims in Central Asia bear a testimony to this truth.

Actually this is not true at all. Muslims all over the world have lower life expectancies than Europeans. It is true that the populations of the Caucasus mountains are said to have long lives, but that is true if they are Christians, Muslims, or Jews. Studies within European populations show that those that consume moderate amonuts of alcohol live longer than those that do not.

Reliable medical doctors and social scientists are able to realize how those food and drinks forbidden by Islam are harmful and destructive to the human spirit and morality as well as to the physique and moral fibre of man and to verify the benefits of Islamic legislations on the subjects.

Reliable in this case meaning they agree with you? I posted an article here a while back that showed South Asians in Britain are far more likely to get heart disease and diabetes than White people even though many of them are Muslims and do not eat pork.

Take a look at the nature of the pig for example. The pig is naturally lazy and indulgent in sex, it is dirty, greedy and gluttonous. It dislikes sunlight and lacks the spirit and will to "fight."

I see you have never tried to hunt wild pigs - wild pigs kill horses. They do not lack spirit or the will to fight. They are lazy and indulgent in sex but then so are all animals. So are sheep and goats. Pigs do not sweat so of course they do not like the sunlight. Hippopotamus are the same - are they hallal?

It eats almost anything, be it human excreta or anything foul and unwholesome. Amongst all animal flesh, pork is the favoured cradle of harmful germs. Pork also serves as a carrier of diseases to mankind. It is for this reason that its flesh is not suitable for consumption.

All this applies to chickens. Are they suitable for consumption?

Different dietary factors are responsible for atheroselerosis. Gross atheroma may be produced in rabbit by feeding it with cholesterol, but when you add lard (derived from hog fat) to the cholesterol, the incidence of atheroma is increased and thus you would produce coronary thrombosis, and myocardial infraction.

Lard does not have to come from pig fat and lard produced from beef or mutton will clog your arteries just as well as pig fat will.

The number of patients suffering from tapeworm disease is the highest in the world among pork eating nations. Other diseases attributed to pigs are caused by tri-chinelia spirates and intestinal worms occupy first place among such nations too.

Except that Japan, China, South Korea and Western countries have neglible rates of all these despite high pork consumption. The Middle East and other Muslim regions have fairly high rates as well so clearly it is not the pork.

That is why modern doctors advise three prohibitions during illness: no liquor, no pork and no smoking.

Which modern doctors?

The above is the order from the Creator of the universe and the Supreme Law-Giver. All Muslims are under the obligation to obey it. This is a plain and straightforward answer to those, who usually ask why Muslims abstain from eating pork. Nevertheless, there is no sin, if a Muslims is forced by famine or starvation to eat pork in order to save his life.

Finally something I agree with. If you say this I do not know why you need spurious arguments about health. It is enough God says not to surely?
 
Why do Christians eat pork?

I dont get it.

Jesus, being Jewish, never ate pork. Jews dont eat pork, neither do Muslims. Since Islam, Judaism, and Christianity are Semitic faiths, why is there a drastic change with Christains? Under what historical context did they end up eating pork?

Peace.
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

I dont get it.

Jesus, being Jewish, never ate pork. Jews dont eat pork, neither do Muslims. Since Islam, Judaism, and Christianity are Semitic faiths, why is there a drastic change with Christains? Under what historical context did they end up eating pork?

Peace.

Salam alaikum:

I'm not completely certain of this, but I know Pork was forbidden according to the bible. However, I think because Christians believe the old law was abolished, it also meant the law forbidding the eating of swine was also abolished. However, as a former Christian I don't ever recall there being a reason for allowing pork and have never received evidence that pork was given the "go ahead".

Wasalam,
Hana
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

In all liklihood the early Christians shunned pork. I believe it became acceptable as Christianity invaded the Western European countries and adopted many of the pagan traditions that were prevelent there.


This statement is strictly my own belief and is only based on what I know of the historical development of modern Christianity.
 
Re: Why do Christians eat pork?

I'd thought about this as well. :rollseyes
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar Threads

Back
Top