Why Islam is not Acceptable to West!!!

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NoName55 said:
Turkey comes to mind as do some Indian States, some republics of former soviet union too,
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Wow - didn't know that.

the only 2 truly free countries where Islam is practiced freely are Uk & USA both alleged to be its mortal enemies contrary to facts on the ground.
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What about other European countries like France, Germany, the Netherlands or Italy? Are Muslims not allowed there?

Peace
 
What about other European countries like France, Germany, the Netherlands or Italy? Are Muslims not allowed there?
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allowed but abused and pushed around from pillar to post is not quite the treatment I would call humane whereas in UK & US we can seek help from authorites against abuse and get it
 
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NoName55 said:
Turkey comes to mind as do some Indian States, some republics of former soviet union too,

the only 2 truly free countries where Islam is practiced freely are Uk & USA both alleged to be its mortal enemies contrary to facts on the ground.
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I can only speak of what I see personally here in Austin. Perhaps it is because Austin is very diverse. But, as a Muslim living in Austin I have as much freedom to practice Islam as any other person has of practicing their faith. We are all free to practice as we believe. There are no laws here that violate my living as a Muslim. The only problem is that here a Muslim has to truly take full responsibility as there are no laws protecting us from Fitnah or from performing immoral acts. The laws do not promote any religion nor do they prevent any religion.
 
Greetings,
NoName55 said:
allowed but abused and pushed around from pillar to post is not quite the treatment I would call humane whereas in UK & US we can seek help from authorites against abuse and get it
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Fair enough, but are you talking about legislation that persecutes Muslims or just individual acts?

Peace
 
czgibson said:
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Fair enough, but are you talking about legislation that persecutes Muslims or just individual acts?

Peace
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western euorope (excluding Turkey) I dont know their legislation, all I know is the treatment meted out by individuals as well as institutions
 
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czgibson said:
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Fair enough, but are you talking about legislation that persecutes Muslims or just individual acts?

Peace
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There does seem to be quite a bit of legislation limiting the locations and number of Mosques permitted in some European countries.

Then there are the laws about the Hijab. some understandable, others blatantly anti-Islamic.
 
The original post was to state the fact why the west would not want to accept Islam. It would not want to because most of the things that cause problems in our society would not be welcome...drug/alcohol abuse, gambling etc;

Anyone who says that these are not problems of the west has their head buried in the sand. You only need to look around and see the problems that EVERYONE faces...not just Muslims.

Because these vices are widely accepted as "normal" they have to go a long way for us to consider them a problem. God/Allah (One and the same) is giving us advice and asking us to abstain. The freedom to choose is ours, after all there is no compulsion in religion as far as the Quran is concerned.

It is therefore understandable that this, according to a Muslim is an ideal way of life and one to be shared with others. If there was a country that practised Islam according to God's teachings of the Quran that country would be the most sought after place to live in. Unfortunately there is NO such country currently in existance.

God's ideal way of life can therefore only be practised by the few individuals who follow the Quran as it should be followed. God knows our nature best, as He created us. Therefore He knows our flaws and tries to stear us clear of situations that will cause us harm.

I am deeply ashamed of the way us so called civilised people treat each other...the violence, the abuse. Our street are no longer a safe place for us to walk or our children to play. Is this what we want...is this a good place for us to live? This is life without God, without morals, without compassion and without love. Everything is based on the "I want and what about me" culture.
Is this what we truly want for our children?

Whatever religion there are bad people..but there are also good people. Belonging to a religion does not make a person good or bad, but the true teachings of a religion can make that person a better person for themselves and others. We are all human beings and as such one community. Would it not be better to try to understand each other with love and compassion rather than with violence and hate?

People say they want to be free, but when society is crumbling in the way it is I see a people enslaved...trapped in a world of misery where violence, abuse, war, hate is the norm.....do any of us really want this?

I would like to be free, free to live in a world where we are all free to practise the religion/or not, of our choice. A world where morals and kindness is the order of the day. When we can leave our homes without fear of getting mugged, shot or stabbed. When children were just that and not thugs on the street corner.

Our society is rotting and people seem to accept this in the name of "freedom"....when will we realise we are all slaves to our greed, selfishness and importance.
 
czgibson said:
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I can't think of any that do so through legislation, but there are always individual incidents to consider. Maybe people who say Islam is not acceptable to the West have these sorts of incidents in mind.

Vandalising mosques and causing physical attacks on Muslims for their faith are obviously actions that should have no place in a civilised society.

It's also possible that the original post in this thread was about why the West would be unlikely to convert en masse to Islam.

Peace
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I dont think individual attacks are a good measure of how "un-Islamic" a country may be unless you could demostrate on a graph or thru stats that Muslims suffered many times more than the next targeted minority.

From what I know, the "West" is much more anti-women, anti-latino (US), anti-Black (US, Canada), anti-atheist (Certain state laws), than it is anti-muslim.
 
czgibson said:
What about other European countries like France, Germany, the Netherlands or Italy? Are Muslims not allowed there?

Peace
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Of course, there are muslims allowed there and also very welcomed. France just has a veil ban in Schools, Germany, Netherlands not.
Belgium is more Problematic. Specially the Flemish part of Belgium is a troublemaker with the conservative party 'Vlaamse Blok', They plan to ban Islam completely
 
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God's ideal way of life can therefore only be practised by the few individuals who follow the Quran as it should be followed. God knows our nature best, as He created us. Therefore He knows our flaws and tries to stear us clear of situations that will cause us harm.
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But fails?

I was liking the post until that line. wa salam alaikum
 
guyabano said:
Of course, there are muslims allowed there and also very welcomed. France just has a veil ban in Schools, Germany, Netherlands not.
Belgium is more Problematic. Specially the Flemish part of Belgium is a troublemaker with the conservative party 'Vlaamse Blok', They plan to ban Islam completely
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veil or head covering scarves etc.?
 
NoName55 said:
But fails?

I was liking the post until that line. wa salam alaikum
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No, God does not fail us..it is we who fail Him with our weakness. After all, God does not force us to follow His laws. The right way is pointed out to those who wish to follow.

Peace.
 
It is acceptable. It's just a handful of nutters who don't practice tolerance of other peoples religion that spoil it.
 
It is acceptable. It's just a handful of nutters who don't practice tolerance of other peoples religion that spoil it.
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^^^ ah that "explains" Balkan massacres, permanent occupations of Kashmir, Chechnya and Palestine as well as barbed wire fences surrounding former E. Pakistan Now Bangladesh
 
The Balkan massacres occurred as a result of two distinct ethnic and religious groups attempting to form one whole. It seldom works, and usually results in the kind of bloodshed we saw in the Balkans. Another example would be what happened in Rwanda. As for the others, they are hardly "Western" related events.
 
Why Islam is not Acceptable to World!!!

:) we ought to ask for title change (to replace "West" with "World")
 
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NoName55 said:
^^^ ah that "explains" Balkan massacres, permanent occupations of Kashmir, Chechnya and Palestine as well as barbed wire fences surrounding former E. Pakistan Now Bangladesh
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Well I was talking about England USA. What happened in Balkans was not nice. As for Kashmir, I agree it should be given back to Muslims, and then us Sikhs can have ours too....
 
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AvarAllahNoor said:
Well I was talking about England USA. What happened in Balkans was not nice. As for Kashmir, I agree it should be given back to Muslims, and then us Sikhs can have ours too....
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Thank you! Wa salam (and peace)
 
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NoName55 said:
allowed but abused and pushed around from pillar to post is not quite the treatment I would call humane whereas in UK & US we can seek help from authorites against abuse and get it
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New Zealand? Australia? Canada? Japan? Mexico? Brazil? Um.... a few dozen more?
 
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