Why muslims prefer housewives?

My wife is a housewife....whats wrong with that? She is also beautiful, loving, and very faithfull to God.

Plus......she makes awesome samosas;D
 
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_PakistaN_ said:
I want a wife who looks pretty, works, and is lovable? lol...
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I wanted to know what was up with the question mark next to lovable.


Italianguy1286184 said:
My wife is a housewife....whats wrong with that? She is also beautiful, loving, and very faithfull.

Plus......she makes awesome samosas
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LMAO if there was ever a reason 2 have a housewife that would be because she makes " awesome samosas" :D. There isn't a problem with housewife but it should be the wife's choice not the husbands.
 
Evidence regarding Aisha riding camel

Wa7abiScientist said:
As far as I know Ayesha (ra) did not control the camel, she rode it but did not "drive" it. If you have evidence that she "drove" it please present forth. Regarding women not being able to drive, I assume you are referring to Saudi Arabia as probably that is the only country now where its forbidden, its a pretty complex issue. Debating on an Islamic forum wont solve the issue. There are good arguments on both sides and I'll let the ulama decide what is best for the Saudi society within the light of Islamic fiqh. There are, however, pretty rebellious women in Saudi who broke the law, as a sign of protest, by driving out cars on the road. Such acts of insolence by breaking the laws would not look too good for their own cause.
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اشْهَدُ انْ لّآ اِلهَ اِلَّا اللّهُ وَ اَشْهَدُ اَنَّ مُحَمَّدً اعَبْدُه وَ رسوله

Ašh hadu al-lā ilāha illā-llāhu, wa
ašh hadu anna Muhammadun ‘abduhu wa rasūluhu
I bear witness that none is worthy of worship but Allah, the One alone, without partner, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger


As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Akhi Wa7abiScientist:

I make every attempt to defend Allah's laws.

Wa7abiScientist said:
As far as I know Ayesha (ra) did not control the camel, she rode it but did not "drive" it. If you have evidence that she "drove" it please present forth.
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Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 138:

Narrated al-Qasim: Aisha said that whenever the Prophet intended to go on a journey, he drew lots among his wives (so as to take one of them along with him). During one of his journeys the lot fell on 'Aisha and Hafsa. When night fell the Prophet would ride beside 'Aisha and talk with her. One night Hafsa said to 'Aisha, "Won't you ride my camel tonight and I ride yours, so that you may see (me) and I see (you) (in new situation)?" 'Aisha said, "Yes, (I agree.)" So 'Aisha rode, and then the Prophet came towards 'Aisha's camel on which Hafsa was riding. He greeted Hafsa and then proceeded (beside her) till they dismounted (on the way). 'Aisha missed him, and so, when they dismounted, she put her legs in the Idhkhir and said, "O Lord (Allah)! Send a scorpion or a snake to bite me for I am not to blame him (the Prophet).

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Wa7abiScientist said:
There are, however, pretty rebellious women in Saudi who broke the law, as a sign of protest, by driving out cars on the road. Such acts of insolence by breaking the laws would not look too good for their own cause.
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Sahih Al-Bukari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 19:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "The best women are the riders of the camels and the righteous among the women of Quraish. They are the kindest women to their children in their childhood and the more careful women of the property of their husbands."
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Alhamdulillah
 
Why do men prefer housewives?

سم الله الرحمن الرحيم

Bismillā hir Rahmā nir Rahīm
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful​


اشْهَدُ انْ لّآ اِلهَ اِلَّا اللّهُ وَ اَشْهَدُ اَنَّ مُحَمَّدً اعَبْدُه وَ رسوله

Ašh hadu al-lā ilāha illā-llāhu, wa
ašh hadu anna Muhammadun ‘abduhu wa rasūluhu
I bear witness that none is worthy of worship but Allah, the One alone, without partner, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger


As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Surah Nisa 4:65

4:65 But no, by the Lord, they can have no (real) Faith, until they make thee judge in all disputes between them, and find in their souls no resistance against Thy decisions, but accept them with the fullest conviction.
(Y. Ali translation)
 
Muezzin said:
Am I the only Muslim male on this thread who has no preference?
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اشْهَدُ انْ لّآ اِلهَ اِلَّا اللّهُ وَ اَشْهَدُ اَنَّ مُحَمَّدً اعَبْدُه وَ رسوله

Ašh hadu al-lā ilāha illā-llāhu, wa
ašh hadu anna Muhammadun ‘abduhu wa rasūluhu
I bear witness that none is worthy of worship but Allah, the One alone, without partner, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger


As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Akhi Muezzin: Our posts support the rights Allah has granted women.

Our wish list:

a) Practices Iman, Tauhid, Ihsan
b) Intellligent
c) Beautiful (Subjective)
d) Healthy
 
Re: Evidence regarding Aisha riding camel

sabr62 said:
اشْهَدُ انْ لّآ اِلهَ اِلَّا اللّهُ وَ اَشْهَدُ اَنَّ مُحَمَّدً اعَبْدُه وَ رسوله

Ašh hadu al-lā ilāha illā-llāhu, wa
ašh hadu anna Muhammadun ‘abduhu wa rasūluhu
I bear witness that none is worthy of worship but Allah, the One alone, without partner, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger


As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Akhi Wa7abiScientist:

I make every attempt to defend Allah's laws.



Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 138:

Narrated al-Qasim: Aisha said that whenever the Prophet intended to go on a journey, he drew lots among his wives (so as to take one of them along with him). During one of his journeys the lot fell on 'Aisha and Hafsa. When night fell the Prophet would ride beside 'Aisha and talk with her. One night Hafsa said to 'Aisha, "Won't you ride my camel tonight and I ride yours, so that you may see (me) and I see (you) (in new situation)?" 'Aisha said, "Yes, (I agree.)" So 'Aisha rode, and then the Prophet came towards 'Aisha's camel on which Hafsa was riding. He greeted Hafsa and then proceeded (beside her) till they dismounted (on the way). 'Aisha missed him, and so, when they dismounted, she put her legs in the Idhkhir and said, "O Lord (Allah)! Send a scorpion or a snake to bite me for I am not to blame him (the Prophet).

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Sahih Al-Bukari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 19:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet said, "The best women are the riders of the camels and the righteous among the women of Quraish. They are the kindest women to their children in their childhood and the more careful women of the property of their husbands."
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Alhamdulillah
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Thanks for providing those. But I do not see how those ahadeeth prove that it is permissible for women to go alone outside for driving a car, I am playing a saudi devil's advocate here. Did ayesha (ra) ride a camel on a journey in the absence of Prophet pbuh? If so then how regular and frequently?

So if we are to follow that hadeeth exactly, are you saying that when a husband and wife go on a journey, they should drive their own cars, side by side??! Just like how Ayesha (ra) was on a separate camel from that of Prophet's (saw)? I mean you cant take these 2 hadiths literally and derive whole rulings from it. You have to understand these 2 hadith in the context of what was happening.

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Shaykh ‘Abd al-‘Azeez ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

People have spoken a great deal in the al-Jazeerah newspaper about the issue of women driving cars. It is well known that it leads to evil consequences which are well known to those who promote it, such as being alone with a non-mahram woman, unveiling, reckless mixing with men, and committing haraam actions because of which these things were forbidden. Islam forbids the things that lead to haraam and regards them as being haraam too.

Allaah commanded the wives of the Prophet and the believing women to stay in their houses, to observe hijab and to avoid showing their adornments to non-mahrams because of the permissiveness that all these things lead to, which spells doom for society. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And stay in your houses, and do not display yourselves like that of the times of ignorance, and perform As-Salaah (Iqamat-as-Salaah), and give Zakaah and obey Allaah and His Messenger. Allaah wishes only to remove Ar-Rijs (evil deeds and sins) from you, O members of the family (of the Prophet), and to purify you with a thorough purification”

[al-Ahzaab 33:33]

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed”

[al-Ahzaab 33:59]

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Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen was asked: I hope you can explain the ruling on women driving cars. And what is your opinion on the idea that women driving cars is less dangerous than their riding with non-mahram drivers?

The answer to this question is based on two principles which are well known among the Muslim scholars:

The first principle is: that whatever leads to haraam is itself haraam. The evidence for this is the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And insult not those whom they (disbelievers) worship besides Allaah, lest they insult Allaah wrongfully without knowledge”

[al-An’aam 6:108]

So Allaah forbids insulting the gods of the mushrikeen – even though that serves an interest – because it leads to insults against Allaah.

The second principle is: that warding off evil – if it is equal to or greater than the interests concerned – takes precedence over bringing benefits. The evidence for that is the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“They ask you (O Muhammad) concerning alcoholic drink and gambling. Say: In them is a great sin, and (some) benefits for men, but the sin of them is greater than their benefit”

[al-Baqarah 2:219]

Allaah has forbidden alcohol and gambling even though there is some benefit in them, so as to ward off the evils that result from them.

Based on these two principles, the ruling on women driving should be clear, because women driving includes a number of evils, including the following:

1 – Removal of hijab, because driving a car involves uncovering the face which is the site of fitnah and attracts the glance of men. A woman is only regarded as beautiful or ugly on the basis of her face, i.e., if it is said that she is beautiful or ugly, people only think in terms of her face. If something else is meant it must be specified, so that one would say that she has beautiful hands or beautiful hair or beautiful feet. Hence it is known that the face is the focal point. If someone were to say that a woman can drive a car without taking off her hijab, by covering her face and wearing dark glasses over her eyes, the answer to that is that this is not what really happens when women drive cars. Ask those who have seen them in other countries. Even if we assume that this could be applied initially, it would not last for long, rather the situation would soon become as it is in other countries where women drive. This is how things usually develop; they start out in an acceptable fashion then they get worse.

2 – Another evil consequence of women driving cars is that they lose their modesty, and modesty is part of faith as is narrated in a saheeh report from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Modesty is the noble characteristic that befits the nature of women and protects them from being exposed to fitnah. Hence it is mentioned in a metaphorical sense (in Arabic), in the phrase “more modest than a virgin in her seclusion.” Once a woman’s modesty is lost, do not ask about her.

3 – It also leads to women going out of the house a great deal, but their homes are better for them – as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said – because those who love to drive enjoy it very much, hence you see them driving around in their cars here and there for no purpose, except to enjoy driving.

4 – You may find a divorced woman going where she wants, whenever she wants and however she wants, for whatever purpose she wants, because she is alone in her car, at any time she wants of the day or night. She may stay out until late at night. If people are complaining about this with regard to young men, then what about young women, going all over the place the length and breadth of the country, and maybe even beyond its borders.

5 – It is a means of women rebelling against their families and husbands; at the least provocation they may go out of the house and drive in the car to wherever they think they can get some peace, as happens in the case of some young men, who are able to put up with more than women.

6 – It is a cause of fitnah in many places: when stopping at the traffic lights, or at gas stations, or at inspection points, or when stopped by policemen at the scenes of traffic infractions or accidents, or if the car stalls and the woman needs help. What will her situation be in this case? Perhaps she may come across an immoral man who takes advantage of her in return for helping her, especially if her need is great to the point of urgency.

7 – When women drive it leads to overcrowding in the streets, or it deprives some young men of the opportunity to drive cars when they are more deserving of that.

8 – It causes fitnah to flourish because women – by their nature – like to make themselves look good with clothing etc. Do you not see how attached they are to fashion? Every time a new fashion appears they throw away what they have and rush to buy the new things, even if it is worse than what they have. Do you not see the adornments that they hang on their walls? In the same way – or perhaps more so – with the cars that they drive, whenever a new model appears they will give up the first for the new one.

With regard to the questioner asking, “And what is your opinion on the idea that women driving cars is less dangerous than their riding with non-mahram drivers?” – what I think is that both of them involve danger, and one is more serious than the other in some ways, but there is no necessity that would require one to do either of them.

Please note that I have answered this question at length because of the controversy that surrounds the issue of women driving cars, and the pressure faced by conservative Saudi society, which is striving to adhere to its religious commitment and morals, to allow women to drive cars.

This would be nothing strange if it were to come from an enemy who seeks to cause harm this land which is the last bastion of Islam that the enemies of Islam wish to penetrate. But what is even stranger is that this is coming from our own people who speak our language and live under our banner, people who are dazzled by what the kaafir nations have of material advancement and admire their ways which are devoid of any moral restrictions.

End quote from Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen.

There are other cases, such as women who have to go out to work and have no husband, father or guardian to look after them and no income from the government to meet their needs, and they cannot find work that they can do at home, such as some internet-based jobs, so they are forced to go out. In that case they can use the means of transportation that poses the least danger to them.



http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/45880/female driving


... and yes, I am medieval minded.
 
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Wa7abiScientist said:
It depends on how we define "housewife." As far as the evidence is concerned, I have not come across a document which shows that Khadija (ra) attended business councils where male businessmen of Arabia were present. If someone has such historical records, please do share them. After accepting Islam, I am sure she did not go out and dealt with males as part of her business ventures? Most likely she ran business from within the confinements of her house and she would have male delegates (her slaves??) who would work in the outer social society. To the extent, that she sent a slave for marriage proposal to the Prophet! She did not go by herself to offer him the marriage proposal ... makes me wonder why?

So we cannot consider Khadija (ra) to be a businesswoman who is similar to the businesswomen of today's society. We, however, need to do more anthropological studies of the nature of Islamic society of Prophet's time in order to understand the golden standards and apply them in today's world.

Wallahu Aalam.
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Her slave was a man was he not? Also, I think this senario is tantamount to a woman telling her secretary to make a phone call for her or something. At the end of the day, she was busy in the big bad world of business. She saw our prophet pbuh while she was in business with him and his 'company' with her own two eyes and proposed in a modest way.

Theres no reason why we couldnt and shouldnt do the same thing. In our deen there are four circumstances under which a woman may freely communicate with a man:

1. Education
2. Marriage
3. Trade and work
4. Health reasons

The boundaries of Islam are perfect and universal. Allah knows our capabilities and our flaws and constructs these boundaries accordingly. These boundaries are for men and women, regardless of our physical and mental differences.
 
sabr62 said:
اشْهَدُ انْ لّآ اِلهَ اِلَّا اللّهُ وَ اَشْهَدُ اَنَّ مُحَمَّدً اعَبْدُه وَ رسوله

Ašh hadu al-lā ilāha illā-llāhu, wa
ašh hadu anna Muhammadun ‘abduhu wa rasūluhu
I bear witness that none is worthy of worship but Allah, the One alone, without partner, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger


As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Akhi Muezzin: Our posts support the rights Allah has granted women.

Our wish list:

a) Practices Iman, Tauhid, Ihsan
b) Intellligent
c) Beautiful (Subjective)
d) Healthy
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ouch to akhi Muezzin... ;D. I thought no one will quote you.

back to the topic.

As a muslim i prefer housewives with jobs too... :hmm:
 
Muezzin said:
Am I the only Muslim male on this thread who has no preference so long as a future spouse is

a) Female
b) Faithful
c) Intelligent
and
d) Not a spiteful buttock

?

EDIT: Nope, fortunately I don't appear to be.
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What if your potential spouse sees this post? Especially (d). :X
 
Evidence regarding Aisha riding camel

Wa7abiScientist said:
... and yes, I am medieval minded.
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As-Salāmu `Alaykum (السلام عليكم):

Akhi Wa7abiScientist:

I am not qualified to debate the discourse presented by Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen. I am not a scholar and would never pretend on a forum.

The evidence stands for itself. The Shaykh provides the instances that are actually established to protect the rights of women not hinder them.

I will continue to stand on the side of caution of supporting the rights Allah has granted women and not allow culture to inhibit those rights.

I definitely know the difference between ethic culture and Islamic culture. The sira (History) of Prophet Muhammad (SAWS) provides insight into why something was revealed and how it is applied.

We agree to disagree upon the application.

Allahu 'Alim
 
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Rashad said:
What if your potential spouse sees this post? Especially (d). :X
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Well if she can't take his post, especially d., light-heartedly, she probably is a d. Which means she isn't even a potential spouse for him :p
 
Dear Lord...I just realised that there is a discussion about whether or not Aisha ra rode a camel or not. :exhausted

Wasn't there a hadith where our prophet pbuh said that a day will come when women can ride alone for certain distances without being hassled or something?
 
Camels are cool! .....but they stink....and mine spit on me+o(, and snored like crazy! and was lazy as he**.
 
sevgi said:
Well if she can't take his post, especially d., light-heartedly, she probably is a d. Which means she isn't even a potential spouse for him :p
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Hmm true. Didn't think about it like that.

I try to be cautious about what I post too. But sometimes I lose focus.
 

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