Why not ban full veil, says French government spokesman

[Beardo]

I don't want to post the video link, because it'll show support to that youtube vid. It already has enough hits.

But this guy insulsts the Burka so badly, it's just upsetting and it just boils you up. What can ya say...

 

[ragdollcat1982]

Rapists are bigots too and they raped hijabis and niqabis as well.
Yes it is, but I have a problem when religious freedom is valued over other freedoms, and a burqa is an example of this (hoodies banned, burqas not, and it symbolyses piosness-overreligiosity in general), so i want it banned in certain places.

Rapist are not bigots, predators and predators go after the weaker more vulnerable prey. How is someone wearing a burqua infriging on the freedom of others? It seems that some people are uncomfortable with people who wear the burqua or the hijab because they are different, so therefore they want to ban it because it makes them feel 'uncomfortable" even though that person who is wearing the burqua or hijab is not doing anything to infringe on the rights of others.

 

[GuestFellow]

I don't want to post the video link, because it'll show support to that youtube vid. It already has enough hits.

But this guy insulsts the Burka so badly, it's just upsetting and it just boils you up. What can ya say...

I seen girls insult women who wear the Burka. Honestly I find them funny how a piece of cloth can make them so angry.

 

[ragdollcat1982]

I seen girls insult women who wear the Burka. Honestly I find them funny how a piece of cloth can make them so angry.

I think it is pathetic, yet it is ok to show ones wares to strangers.:blind:

 

[aamirsaab]

I don't want to post the video link, because it'll show support to that youtube vid. It already has enough hits.

But this guy insulsts the Burka so badly, it's just upsetting and it just boils you up. What can ya say...

Does his name rhyme with Fat Rondell? If so, he's an idiot. And yes, it does boil me up too...freakin hypocritical retards just lap all this crap up.

You know, I'd actually love to see their ''ideal'' system; you know, with all their talk of freedom this and ban that. I really would love to see how such a broken -ass system would work for them. Just so I could be feel smug about it and laugh as their system crumbles within a matter of days...the smart ones would beg for the old system; the ignorant wouldn't realise the new system is broken.

Either way, I'd feel smug.

 

[Zafran]

salaam

I find it scary that his videos get so much hits and people actually take him seriously - thats worrying.

Its like Bin Laden getting a channel.

peace

 

[Ansariyah]

Rapist are not bigots, predators and predators go after the weaker more vulnerable prey. How is someone wearing a burqua infriging on the freedom of others? It seems that some people are uncomfortable with people who wear the burqua or the hijab because they are different, so therefore they want to ban it because it makes them feel 'uncomfortable" even though that person who is wearing the burqua or hijab is not doing anything to infringe on the rights of others.

That is so true, people like WTP are just terrified of People who look different. The lack tolerance he's displaying is proof enuff. Imagine if he was a judge, or a president, wudnt the world be doomed. He keeps going on n on about 'Freedom this Freedom that' but the truth is the only freedom he wants is that which suits him, n his like'minded peopl..everyone else is radical, backward, bla bla.:rollseyes

 

[ragdollcat1982]

That is so true, people like WTP are just terrified of People who look different. The lack tolerance he's displaying is proof enuff. Imagine if he was a judge, or a president, wudnt the world be doomed. He keeps going on n on about 'Freedom this Freedom that' but the truth is the only freedom he wants is that which suits him, n his like'minded peopl..everyone else is radical, backward, bla bla.:rollseyes

Politcal correctness?:rollseyes I dont agree with alot of things, but I tolerate them.

 

[GuestFellow]

salaam

I find it scary that his videos get so much hits and people actually take him seriously - thats worrying.

Its like Bin Laden getting a channel.

peace

LOL

Well it would be sad to see the government ban the veil. More paperwork for them and more money being used to enforce this law.

Yays! Spend more public money on stopping people from wearing the veil, rather than spending the money on education and tackling crime. *sighs*

 

[ragdollcat1982]

I also wish they would ban the baggy pants that show off ones underware.

 

[Muezzin]

I don't want to post the video link, because it'll show support to that youtube vid. It already has enough hits.

But this guy insulsts the Burka so badly, it's just upsetting and it just boils you up. What can ya say...

Is anything this man is saying stopping women from wearing burqas?

No.

 

[Ansariyah]

I also wish they would ban the baggy pants that show off ones underware.

I once saw a group of guys running from the police, My lil baby niece cud out'run them easaaaalyyy. They had the jeans so low they cudnt even lift a foot. One of them acutally hopped like a kangaroo

That's slavery haha.

 

[ragdollcat1982]

I once saw a group of guys running from the police, My lil baby niece cud out'run them easaaaalyyy. They had the jeans so low they cudnt even lift a foot. One of them acutally hopped like a kangaroo

That's slavery haha.

My uncle whos a cop said, dont ban them it makes perps easier to catch

 

[Uthman]

Let's stay on-topic people.

 

[Iwant2no2]

http://www.islamawareness.net/Hijab/quran_hijab.html


The general consenses is that a woman should cover everything but her face and hands. Some however insist that the niquab is obligatory while other scholars say it is highly reccommended.

But still from what I just read on the verses of the Quran, it still never said anything about a woman covering herself from head to toe and even her face.

Like the first verse says:

· “O you Children of Adam! We have bestowed on you raiment to cover your shame as well as to be an adornment to you. But the raiment of righteousness, that is the best. Such are among the Signs of Allah, that they may receive admonition.”
(Quran 7:26).

Children of Adam? That doesn't say "WOMAN" to cover their shame. What is the Quran's meaning of shame? It doesn't say. Children of Adam are everyone, not just women.

· “And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear therof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not

display their beauty

except to their husbands, their fathers, their husbands’ fathers, their sons, their husbands’ sons, their brothers, or their brothers’ sons or their sisters’ sons, or their women or the servants whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex, and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O you Believers, turn you all together towards Allah, that you may attain Bliss.”
(Quran 24:31).

Still the above Quran verse says nothing about a woman covering from head to toe! Bosoms are not a woman face.

· “O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them (when they go abroad). That will be better, so that they may be recognised and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.”
(Quran 33:59).

Yet here is another Quran Verse that doesn't say to cover from head to toe. It just says draw their cloaks close around them, when they go abroad.

If it doesn't say in the Quran to cover a womans body from head to toe, then why do the male Muslims tell their women that they have to cover like this? Do you think we could be missing something in the Quran that does say a woman should cover here body from head to toe?

This is very confusing.

I would never let anyone "male or female" tell me what I had to wear or what not to wear. It's my body, I will wear what I want to wear.

Thanks for sharing...

 

[ragdollcat1982]

But still from what I just read on the verses of the Quran, it still never said anything about a woman covering herself from head to toe and even her face.

Like the first verse says:
Children of Adam? That doesn't say "WOMAN" to cover their shame. What is the Quran's meaning of shame? It doesn't say. Children of Adam are everyone, not just women.



Still the above Quran verse says nothing about a woman covering from head to toe! Bosoms are not a woman face.



Yet here is another Quran Verse that doesn't say to cover from head to toe. It just says draw their cloaks close around them, when they go abroad.

If it doesn't say in the Quran to cover a womans body from head to toe, then why do the male Muslims tell their women that they have to cover like this? Do you think we could be missing something in the Quran that does say a woman should cover here body from head to toe?

This is very confusing.

I would never let anyone "male or female" tell me what I had to wear or what not to wear. It's my body, I will wear what I want to wear.

Thanks for sharing...

Maybe my Muslim brethern can explain better. And nobody is or would tell you what to wear. A Muslim woman wears the hijab or other covering because she chooses too out of obediance to God.

 

[Iwant2no2]

My uncle whos a cop said, dont ban them it makes perps easier to catch

LOL..... I saw on "COPS" TV... A policeman chasing a guy who's pants fell down to his feet, his pants tripped him up, so the cop caught him easily. The policeman was laughing at him so hard, saying; if your pants had fit you right you would have mostlikely outrun me... LOL But please don't stop wearing baggy pants on our account...

 

[Iwant2no2]

Maybe my Muslim brethern can explain better. And nobody is or would tell you what to wear. A Muslim woman wears the hijab or other covering because she chooses too out of obediance to God.

Ok maybe someone else can explain better.

I was wondering where, and if it's in the Quran that a woman has to wear a hijab, {as you call it}. Since her wearing a hijab is said to be out of the abediance of God, then I would like to read in the Quran where it says she has to wear a hijab that covers her from head to toe.... Are there a verse in the Quran that says this? And is the word hijab in the Quran?


Thanks!!

 

[ragdollcat1982]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLzg43NNNOM

A video clip on Hijab in the Book Religions.

 

[Zafran]

Ok maybe someone else can explain better.

I was wondering where, and if it's in the Quran that a woman has to wear a hijab, {as you call it}. Since her wearing a hijab is said to be out of the abediance of God, then I would like to read in the Quran where it says she has to wear a hijab that covers her from head to toe.... Are there a verse in the Quran that says this? And is the word hijab in the Quran?


Thanks!!

"33:59 O Prophet! say to your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers that they let down upon them their over-garments; this will be more proper, that they may be known, and thus they will not be given trouble; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful." - 33-59.

This is the verse that is mostly used - The prophets wifes did wear the Niqab I believe (somebody can correct me with that).