Why the 350-million human history theory should be the default theory logically
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I will have to say pass on this.. This is entirely you. I am also a grown man. Just because you can't wrap your head around this doesn't make it unreal..
Falsehood is bound to vanish by default rest assured my brother.. Men who have worshipped Allah for 500 years straight will appear on Judgement day and these men certainly didn't fall from the skies and one of them has a detailed and recorded conversation with Allah in the hadith.. You Ain't ready to wrap your head around this piece of information it is certainly to heavy for you but it is normal as it is expected in this era but I don't blame anyone who does that.. Just let it slide and move along the time is not now
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Salaam brother,
I usually can't get along with scimi either...we have had many confrontations in the past...but I have to say, if someone is right, then he's right. I agree with him.
You really need to learn how to have a constructive discussion...
every single point in your posts have been answered...I personally answered them all...many many times...and confronted you with cold hard facts...proven cold hard facts that your theory is nonsense...
yet you still have the audacity to ask questions like:
you don't get to ignore everything that is said, go in parrot mode and repeat everything over and over again.
That is not a discussion anymore. it really is childish behaviour.
Take a lesson from what is said to you. trust us and let it go....just let that nonsense go.
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I think we should let the brother project his historical frustrations on this thread. At least this way, they are contained
Salam brothers..
@umut repeating myself doesn't do much here brother nor alter the occasion. You didnt really contribute much to the scentific side of it. You hardly posted anything noteworthy in that aspect.
My dear brother don't get me wrong when i say this entire generation is not ready to wrap this piece of information around their head it is to heavy except these who reason they will understand it and these who are versed in this will understand and see it as clear as the sun.
I don't blame this generation infact i don't blame the generations for the last 200 years they have been brainwashed to a savage point undoing that with theory is not enough hence once the world order changes the truth will be brought by the mumineen world hegemony once they come to power who will reign over the world for approx 1 to 2 centuries in the future they will unpack everything.
Hence even i reckon that this is to heavy for regular ppl in this generations to just digest it like that. 30m tall humans can roam earth only approx 350mya period. This they can't digest currently but alas just let it slide
@umut repeating myself doesn't do much here brother nor alter the occasion. You didnt really contribute much to the scentific side of it. You hardly posted anything noteworthy in that aspect.
My dear brother don't get me wrong when i say this entire generation is not ready to wrap this piece of information around their head it is to heavy except these who reason they will understand it and these who are versed in this will understand and see it as clear as the sun.
I don't blame this generation infact i don't blame the generations for the last 200 years they have been brainwashed to a savage point undoing that with theory is not enough hence once the world order changes the truth will be brought by the mumineen world hegemony once they come to power who will reign over the world for approx 1 to 2 centuries in the future they will unpack everything.
Hence even i reckon that this is to heavy for regular ppl in this generations to just digest it like that. 30m tall humans can roam earth only approx 350mya period. This they can't digest currently but alas just let it slide
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Re-read this post several times until you finally understand:
The Ancient peoples timeline and the first humans who walked the earth - Timeline
Now, what were you saying again? wasn't that enough scientific side for you?
That is why I am still waiting for a reaction from your side for every fact that I've put forward that goes against your fairytale.
You basically ignored everything I've said...just like every average conspiracy believer.
Did you back your fairytale up with any scientific knowledge? You just chose to blindly believe in it...and you are defending it as if your life depending on it.
It's not a piece of information. It is a sad attempt of pseudoscience. It is a joke...badly put together...not consistent or whatsoever...defies every law of nature...someone played a terrible joke on you
Even you? wow...if even you reckon that...that must be really really heavy for us regular people...yeah..you are absolutely waaaay above regular people....you can digest any fairytale.
Go take your garbage elsewhere...try other religious forums...they also happen to blindly follow a religion...you cannot be convince us with that cheap story of yours.
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yup!
What kind of childish reply is this with name callings is this a rap freestyle battle all of sudden? Do you think this will make your opinion come to fruition like this? You are reaching for straws here brother.
You haven't posted even one scentific element in this entire conversation and even you yourself have admitted you are not versed in this in one specific post which made me lose interest and you were just saying this is false yada yada and trying to force it doesn't make any sense.
I don't know why this seems to have scattered your own opinion of the world? But that is not the case the world is more mysterious than you realize and holds much more secrets than what you were previously told. You are even saying something the prophet didn't disagree with as fairytale or pseudoscience.
The man said in perfect langauge everything correct ''that Man decreased in size'' and that we started from approx 30m etc etc and the same with the age. This my friend doesn't go against science? Bro you can bring FREAKING EINIESTIN here but wallahi by Allah he won't be able to prove in any shape of way how just something small tiny as how '' THE FREAKING DINOSAURS COULD EVER EXIST IN OUR CURRENT GRAVITY'' this is impossible to prove for him take this from me and go to every single learned person in the world he won't be able to prove to you that it was possible and what does this tell you... ????? It exactly draws you back to what the prophet said again ''Men kept decreasing in size'' and how was this possible and how did this happen? Gravity my man GRAVITY. You can't understand this simple thing. I have written it into 3 pages. If GRAVITY is not lower it MEANS DINOSAURS COULD NEVER HAPPENED OR IT IS FICTION.. Even tho we know they existed today? But this equals to you saying in the same time here that they didn't exist because if you belie the gravity being lower you have denied their existence ever being real writting them off as fiction?
I already have you where you can't escape from but than again you insist on this and I was being merciful wanting to let you off and let this slide..
This is what you call science nowadays: We have unearthed ridiculous amount of large dinosaurs some of them 200million years old but I swear to god there is not one of them who can provide evidence for how it was possible for this creature to walk earth? Not single one of them? Because they believe in FREAKING PANGEA which is a fictional world of our own world where gravity always stayed the same they chose to blind themselves on purpose to perserve evolution they sacrificed that on purpose... Hmm that is hilarious right than you end up with Large bones and animals in your museums but you can't even prove scientifically how they were ever possible this would sound like one of these jokes Dave Chappelle randomly comes up with in his stand-up comedy but this is real life and current status
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Name calling? what name calling? I only called you brother in my prior posts...(which is history now).
I did had a few names for your abomination of a theory. I am sorry, I was being creative...here comes the list:
garbage
nonsense
fairytale
story
joke
badly put together
fiction
false religion
a sad attempt of pseudoscience
inconsistent
Did I forget anything? if so, please add to the list
Please notice that I am avoiding the word "theory", because it is everything but a theory.
Oh yeah...you called yourself "above regular" which is a good indication for me to know what kind of personality you have...seeing yourself above average, looking down on people...exactly the profile of a conspiracy theorist, thinking they belong to an elite group of people because they think to know something no one else knows...you also get a kick out of that don't you?
what? I provided scientific facts, formulas and even did calculations to show you, that your piece of text is hopeless....and you didn't even react on any of that...you are still ignoring everything....probably because you didn't understand a bit of it, even though your "above regular"
There is no need for a scientific element to debunk your garbage....basic highschool knowledge of physics and math can do the trick...
I agree. I do not claim that science knows everything...it is just the tip of the iceberg...there is a lot to discover.
Wait...what? What words are you twisting again? Something the prophet didn't disagree with? He didn't disagree with the hollow earth theory? he didn't disagree with lower gravity back then? did you ask?
A lot of things go against science...because (again) science does not claim to know everything....there are a lot of gaps to fill...that however does not suddenly make your garbage true...
let me say it differently:
you cannot piggyback your fairytale into truth with the fact that that science cannot explain that one phrase
It tells me that we still have a lot of research to do...but what it doesn't tell me is that your nonsense is true.
What?
Again...basic high school knowledge for you:
The formula for gravitational acceration a = (G x M) / r^2
This formula got us to the moon which is accurate enough.
the equation tells us that the gravitational acceration is dependent of only two variables, mass and radius of Earth.
Therefore, for the gravity to drastically increase over time you only have two options:
1: either the mass of Earth must increase drastically, or
2: the radius of Earth must decrease drastically
for option 1 to happen Earth needs to be bombarded by meteorites constantly, which is impossible because that would wipe out every form of life
option 2 is the opposite of your fairytale because your failytale speaks about expanding Earth, not schrinking Earth.
Besides, also option 2 is also impossible because if the radius schrinks that drastically with mass being constant, that would mean the density of Earth increasing...and even Osmium, which is the most dense known material is not dense enough to have that small volume.
in other words, even if the entire Earth would exist of pure Osmium, then still the radius of the Earth would be much bigger than what your joke of a theory tells us.
you have me? you being merciful? Wake up and smell the coffee dude. Please bring your worst...I am not afraid of anything because I have the truth on my side.
Nothing can compete with that.
Bla bla bla...I'm not even gonna respond to that...I've put enough words already to react on. But I know everything is gonna be ignored...AGAIN.
When are you finally gonna respond to anything I've said? Don't you want to defend your fiction? Where is your scientific backup? I want formulas, calculations, facts.
Just like I provided you...I want you to tell me which formula, which calculation or which statement was false, and why.
Is that too much expectations from someone who is way "above regular"?
This is alot of mental gymnastics my mann.:facepalm:
Yet again you provided nothing by coming up with an irrelevant measurement but what I am talking about is the increasing gravity thru out history. We could go circles but the debat technically ended the minute you can't even prove the existence of dinosaurs because you probably are also a PANGEA believer which most are anyways.
1. I am saying you have the evidence at hand (DINOSAUARS)
2. Most of them know how they could have walked earth but they chose to sacrifice that on purpose to perserve evolution otherwise it would debunk them.
All your claims and the science claims contradict each other and cannibalize each other hence any learned person whos honest he would either agree with me or walk away from this.
GRAVITY They can't bypass that it stands as guard against them.. Hence they can only pursue ambiguity but they can't ignore it because everything they hold the many dinosaur remains and all the large animals become fiction due to PANGEA. This will cannibalize each other.
By the way this is such an strong gatekeeper against them like the Sun.. You can't belie that cause it is right in your face
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Yeah mental gymnastics...
In the meantime you again in parrot mode...putting nothing new on the table...shouting empty accusations. The only point you shove forward every single time is the size of dinosaurs and gravity.
However, this time I am starting to understand the situation.
The fairytale that you are promoting so fiercely, can be found on this site:
The text you shared with us is a direct copy of that site. It speaks about how easy dinosaurs could have survived if the gravity was much lower...and they made a sad attempt to think out a scenario how the lower gravity could be explained and they came up with expanding Earth with ice core heating up, turning into a gas core and creating a hollow Earth. But the bigger radius had the opposite effect as they wanted so they shifted the center of gravity (which is always a point and nothing else) into a sphere like shape just a few km below our feet.
You never understood anything on that site. You hardly read the part with the dinosaurs in less gravity part, that was enough to ignite a tiny spark in your brain and you already surrendered...everything else was too complicated but that didn't matter anymore.
Here I am thinking that you at least understood the garbage you are trying to defend thogoughly...expecting to have a normal discussion with you why that theory was right or wrong...but you do not comprehend anything.
That is why you claim that my points are contradicting but fail to explain which points contradict and why.
That is why you claim that my points are irrelevent, where in reality when one talks about gravity, those points I put forward are highly relevant.
That is why you ignore everything I say, because you do not understand what I am talking about so you do not know what to say...so you try to cunningly wipe it aside by saying "mental gymnastics"
Well guess what, your mental can use some gymnastics...it's totally out of shape.
I do not know whether you consider yourself a muslim or not, but in case you do, here's a piece of advice for you:
Drop the false theory. Thank Allah you are not good at convincing people, even though you try really hard...but if you do succeed to convince one or several people to believe this false theory of yours....you will be partionally accountable for every sin they make...That would be a great source of sins for you.
You will ruin your afterlife.
What an asbolute train wreck...
I have not even seen that website before in my life what are you on about. Seems like you got frustrated for no reasons. I get the sense that you are reaching for straws here for no obvious reasons. Someone reaching for straws because his beloved evolution theory has bursted into thin air and he can't cope with it.
I don't even know the website you are talking about but thinking you can mix that or use that as part of your mental gymnastics ain't going anywhere.
You still failed to understand the GRAVITY PART AND DINOSAURS riddle making all your mental gymnastics fruitless really. Just circling around playing with words and wasting time won't do you any favors.
1. You can't explain the 100.000 reported large skeletons found across the US in the 1900s reported on local news (If it was one time thing it could be excused as falsehood but we are talking about 100k reports across the country)
2. The prophet(sa) himself says the height of Adam is 27.4m approx 30m
3. We know Dinosaurs couldn't walk earth if the Gravity was not lower we got that one checked
4. Humans lifespan started out as 1000 years than they went down in lifespan likewise in size
5. Giant human footprint allover the world which has gone unexplained
6. From a logical point of view why would Allah(swt) create such a complex world and create such a complex creation like mankind and place them on earth for approx 3 hours. One day is equal to 50.000 / 24 = 2083.. from 7000 years you got 3 hours approx. It doesn't make logical sense just from a logical point of view. Why create all this grand world and complex eco-system and everything in perfect detail. It goes against logic but the right logical sense is that Allah has let mankind roam earth for a very very long duration of time. This is just the logical aspect and also another thing to consider is if the earlier people lifespan was 1000 years this pushes humanity way back.
Now that said I am coming to the conclusion that you are either of 2 things and I can't determine which one really but I get the strong vibe that you are either of two things.
1. An apostate who has dedicated his life to disapprove the reality even to oneself which is why this unsettles you (You don't know whos online these days)
2. You are a mason who has to do everything to defend this mindset and idea at all costs.
But either way you have to prepare yourself for this theory and concept soon or later becoming the default truth agreed upon by all. This will become the one solely agreed upon thoery in the near future this much I can guaraante you. We are only away from that in few decades down the line and once the world order changes it will become the default agreed upon truth. All the school curriculums and everything such as the history of humanity will be based upon this. They will bring forth all the giant skeletons and evolution theory will die by default as their supporters will be defeated on the earth and won't have power to protect the skeletons from being examined nor have the power to hide them.
I am telling you how things is gonna play out eventually.. Whether you take it or not is upto you and I am unbothered and relax about it.. Wait few more decades to see this unfold..
Falsehood by its very own nature is bound to perish
I have not even seen that website before in my life what are you on about. Seems like you got frustrated for no reasons. I get the sense that you are reaching for straws here for no obvious reasons. Someone reaching for straws because his beloved evolution theory has bursted into thin air and he can't cope with it.
I don't even know the website you are talking about but thinking you can mix that or use that as part of your mental gymnastics ain't going anywhere.
You still failed to understand the GRAVITY PART AND DINOSAURS riddle making all your mental gymnastics fruitless really. Just circling around playing with words and wasting time won't do you any favors.
1. You can't explain the 100.000 reported large skeletons found across the US in the 1900s reported on local news (If it was one time thing it could be excused as falsehood but we are talking about 100k reports across the country)
2. The prophet(sa) himself says the height of Adam is 27.4m approx 30m
3. We know Dinosaurs couldn't walk earth if the Gravity was not lower we got that one checked
4. Humans lifespan started out as 1000 years than they went down in lifespan likewise in size
5. Giant human footprint allover the world which has gone unexplained
6. From a logical point of view why would Allah(swt) create such a complex world and create such a complex creation like mankind and place them on earth for approx 3 hours. One day is equal to 50.000 / 24 = 2083.. from 7000 years you got 3 hours approx. It doesn't make logical sense just from a logical point of view. Why create all this grand world and complex eco-system and everything in perfect detail. It goes against logic but the right logical sense is that Allah has let mankind roam earth for a very very long duration of time. This is just the logical aspect and also another thing to consider is if the earlier people lifespan was 1000 years this pushes humanity way back.
Now that said I am coming to the conclusion that you are either of 2 things and I can't determine which one really but I get the strong vibe that you are either of two things.
1. An apostate who has dedicated his life to disapprove the reality even to oneself which is why this unsettles you (You don't know whos online these days)
2. You are a mason who has to do everything to defend this mindset and idea at all costs.
But either way you have to prepare yourself for this theory and concept soon or later becoming the default truth agreed upon by all. This will become the one solely agreed upon thoery in the near future this much I can guaraante you. We are only away from that in few decades down the line and once the world order changes it will become the default agreed upon truth. All the school curriculums and everything such as the history of humanity will be based upon this. They will bring forth all the giant skeletons and evolution theory will die by default as their supporters will be defeated on the earth and won't have power to protect the skeletons from being examined nor have the power to hide them.
I am telling you how things is gonna play out eventually.. Whether you take it or not is upto you and I am unbothered and relax about it.. Wait few more decades to see this unfold..
Falsehood by its very own nature is bound to perish
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Greetings and peace be with you Mountains
The only thing worth believing in is; that Allah is the creator of all that is seen and unseen.
Dino's and gravity are not going to affect our lives. Only Allah should affect our lives. Whilst other stuff might be interesting, it is mostly speculation and we should not be too concerned about the technicalities of the How?
Blessings
Eric
The only thing worth believing in is; that Allah is the creator of all that is seen and unseen.
Dino's and gravity are not going to affect our lives. Only Allah should affect our lives. Whilst other stuff might be interesting, it is mostly speculation and we should not be too concerned about the technicalities of the How?
Blessings
Eric
I agree with you. This will not affect our lives in any shape of way but there is something else on the line this may not have any bearings on faith itself such as ones relationship with Allah but it has another deep underlaying prize tag.
An insult has been levelled against our collective father Adam and a vicious one in that by his enemy who not only insulted him but found a way to force down the throats of the weak minded people (His progeny) by using his supporters the masons.
When Allah created Adam he made the Angels to make Sujod to him that is the highest of honor Allah could give any creature I just can't allow such baseless lies against he who fathered mankind and officially honored by Allah himself and dragging his name like that means dragging the name of all humanity. It is not within me nor should it be within anyone else to let it happen and watch when we know it is lie and invention knowing even who are the culprits these behind it and one doesn't need to be math genius to know whos behind it. Who could hate us that much to teach mankind that we are monkey's or apes the joke is on us thought by our enemies do you know how foolish this is on our behalf.
This has no theology relevance but it is important for the legacy of mankind (Legacy of Adam and Eve)
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