لميس;1507208 said:It isn't a personal achievement to be a mother. We're literally per Quran 'gifted' 'wahabana laho' means gifted him with and you'll find that to be description whenever any messenger had a bushra 'glad-tiding' of a child-- it is certainly a matter entirely up Allah swt as is marriage:
لميس;1507208 said:Parents merely donate two cells through no volition of their own and it is Allah swt who creates and grants life. Even if people pass the people's test of approval by getting married you'll find the same nags wondering when the little ones will come along and how a dutiful woman sole purpose if to breed with whatever insensitivity and pain that brings.
being 26 and not married and childless IS a problem
Rather than waiting "for the right one" a woman should look within herself to see what SHE can change, not hold unrealistic expectations (because, lets face it, this is one of the bigger problems and why marriage gets delayed).
I personally don't see why being 26 and without children 'IS' a problem.. can you? It is true advanced maternal age brings with it a host of genetic diseases but the consensus now is to test everybody for even though it increases with age it is women in their twenties that have the highest number of say 'Down syndrome' babies.. and even testing for that whether <26 or >26 doesn't change matters any.. unless of course we wish to subscribe to western ethics of aborting post natally what we deem useless creation..Allah bestows children! Subhanallah. The person who reaches this age may not see Allah's decree thus far as a "problem", but may make an effort, make du3a for it, and accept whatever Allah decrees in the end.
Allah (swt) did not create women for the sake of wifehood or motherhood. This is not our first goal, nor our end goal. Our creation was to fulfill our first and most important role—to be His SLAVE.
From the articles I linked to earlier:There is nothing in the Quran or the Sunnah that specifically says women your primary obligatory roles are wifehood and motherhood.
“The best of you is he who is best to his family, and I’m the best among you to my family” Al-Tirmidhi.
And God sets forth, as an example to those who believe the wife of Pharaoh: Behold she said: 'O my Lord! Build for me, in nearness to Thee, a mansion in the Garden, and save me from Pharaoh and his doings, and save me from those that do wrong' -Surah Tahrim, Ayat 11
Allah sets forth an example for those who disbelieve, the wife of Nuh (Noah) and the wife of Lout (Lot). They were under two of our righteous slaves, but they both betrayed their (husbands by rejecting their doctrine) so they [Nuh (Noah) and Lout (Lot)] benefited them (their respective wives) not, against Allah, and it was said: "Enter the Fire along with those who enter!" –Surah Tahrim Ayat, 10
In Surah Tahrim, Ayat 12
And Maryam (Mary), the daughter of 'Imran who guarded her chastity; and We breathed into (the sleeve of her shirt or her garment) through Our Ruh [i.e. Jibrael (Gabriel)], and she testified to the truth of the Words of her Lord [i.e. believed in the Words of Allah: "Be!" and he was; that is 'Iesa (Jesus) - son of Maryam (Mary); as a Messenger of Allah], and (also believed in) His Scriptures, and she was of the Qanitin (i.e. obedient to Allah).
O Maryam! "Submit yourself with obedience to your Lord (Allah, by worshipping none but Him Alone) and prostrate yourself, and Irkâ'i (bow down etc.) along with Ar-Râki'ûn (those who bow down etc.)." (Surah Al-Imran:42-43)
How many husbands and fathers try to be the best to their family, or even advocate for such a beautiful role?
It should be clarified that those who regard motherhood and wifehood as being superior to other roles are not necessarily saying it is the only praiseworthy role, let alone the only role available for a woman in Islam, rather it is about priority and virtue of one thing over another. On the one hand you say certain other benefical roles could make a woman a better wife, mother and Muslim. I do not disagree with this. But on the other hand I received the impression from some statements in this thread that motherhood and wifehood should be viewed on an equal level as other roles women could hold. Forgive me if I got that wrong. But if true, this would indicate that a woman can choose whatever career/lifestyle she wishes, for whatever reason she wishes, and still be afforded the same status as a good wife and mother. I don't think this can be said.The idea is not to downplay the importance of wifehood and motherhood; they are both beneficiary roles that contribute to the social structure of society. However, there are plenty of practical, social, economic, and most importantly religious knowledge that could make any woman a better wife, mother, and Muslim. Let’s be realistic, those who argue for wifehood and motherhood roles usually take an absolutist stand. Phrases such as “it is the best”, and “they are the only praiseworthy roles of women” downplay the holistic capabilities of women in general. I'm not personally downplaying the noble status of both roles, but when compared to worshiping God, they both become secondary in nature.
Dream:I just wonder sometimes if the girl is in love with the man and wants to build a life with him, or if she is only in love with the idea of being married.
masha'Allah what an excellent post.. indeed there are many parallels between you and many others here (many of us just prefer to close the book on painful chapters).. I personally lost the one I wanted to marry in April 2004 (to death) and that was beyond words or description really.. coming to terms with how someone can be snatched in the prime of their life was really difficult and I realize it is one of those things you just have to live with not get over.. made me largely a recluse, it affected my studies, took me longer than everyone else as I saw no purpose or direction or meaning to any of it.. but you're right in that we might not see tragedies for what they truly are.. a way to either draw close to Allah swt or lose our religion all together..For they know that their life is running JUST as Allah had planned!
Alhamdulillah.
لميس;1507350 said:I personally lost the one I wanted to marry in April 2004 (to death)
As sr. Zaria said:I am sorry. My prayers that you may be reunited one day in paradise.
and at least she observed, outside of Ramadan and for purely vain reasons I didn't even consider myself a Muslim.. you can have the strictest parents and live in the epicenter of it all- I lived in Saudi Arabia as a child yet never did the basic second pillar of Islam until my mid twenties .. so even though by all standards it was a tragedy that afflicted me & trickled to all aspects of my life and affected my relationship with others at least and al7mdlillah I became a Muslim while living on my own in a foreign country as opposed to just going through the motions for hypocrisy and may Allah swt make the best of our deeds the last of them and accept them from us and grant us highest meed in paradise ameen...I have never known Islam as I do today - and this is honestly all that really matters.
:wa:
I want to make it clear that I am not saying women should not pursue roles outside of motherhood and wifehood - rather I agree with what others have said in that we do need women to pursue certain roles such as those where women are needed in place of men, but these must be done with the right intentions and consideration must be given to the challenges that will be faced. Yet there are some roles that do not pose such difficulties for women and can reasonably be done alongside wifehood and motherhood, where they can contribute to society in a number of ways without compromising on their religious commitment. As more than one person said previously, there are many factors to consider in making the decision. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say that what is "the best" role for a particular individual will vary, but what we are discussing is a general guideline. The shaykh who wrote the article I quoted is involved with the Islamic Shariah Council of Britain, and therefore he is probably bearing in mind in his argument the large number of cases of broken homes and marriages, which further shows the complexity of the issue.
And Allaah (swt) knows best.
Assalamu-alaikum,
I think this discussion has somehow gone off-course from the original intention of the opening post (or my interpretation of it).
When I initially read the article - it spoke of the type of woman who DOES desire marriage and children, yet DESPITE her efforts, she remains single.
This does not necessarily imply that she has set her standards too high in her search for the ideal spouse......in fact - if piety is one of the most important criteria in finding a marriage partner - then, in todays age, how hard is this becoming to find?
From my own personal expierence:
Being 32, divorced and childless, I am left wondering - what are my chances of marriage and motherhood now?
I have realised how many younger, single women there are - all desperately seeking marriage.......
:wa:
The article explains this: 'Did you know that a person achieves with their intentions far more than he or she may achieve with their actions? So if a Muslim woman intends to be a mother and raise righteous children, or she wants to be a wife who supports her husband and protect his honour and his wealth – but for some reason she is unable to get married, then she will receive the reward for achieving what she sincerely intended even if it doesn’t materialise.'I’m not married nor do not have kids, so why should I waste time and effort intending to do something Allah controls, especially, when I’m currently undertaking realistic, practical, and reasonable actions which are in the process of materializing?
It's under her husband's feet
Thanks for bring the discussion back on topic again. Quick question, have you ever considered adopting? The Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) said: "I will be like this in Paradise with the person who takes care of the orphan". 'Allah's Messenger (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) raised his forefinger and middle finger by way of illustration'" . [Reported by Imam al-Bukhari ].
Being a mother is more than being the biological mother of the child. Looking at the Prophet (Sallallahu Alaihi wa Sallam) life you will see that he had three different mothers. Amina, who was his biological mother, Halima who was his wet-nurse, and finally, Fatima bint Asad who was his foster-mother.
May Allah grant you children and a righteous man with a beautiful character. Ameen.
It's not true if a woman want to work, it's means she does not respect to wifehood and motherhood. Many working women who I know in my place are good wives and good mothers. While some housewives who I know? .... they only care to themselves, spent their times only to having fun and gosip with other women.You are asking for women to pursue careers, again fine, but why aren't you going out of your way to encourage them to married life and motherhood.
It's the fricking problem with the world now, being a mother/wife isn't as respected as it should be.
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