Wilders challenges 'hate' charges

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Skavau said:
Don't be absurd.

That means any criticism of anything could involve desensitizing people and involve someone committing genocide because of this. No, people are responsible for their own actions.
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But he certainly does contribute to it, if its not directly its indirectly.
You should come down to holland and were an Abaya and Hijaab.
See how much strange looks and comments you will get.
I always said when I have my own family I wont stay in Holland. This has became a bad climate for us to live in. Thats going in my marriagecontract by the way!:D
 
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Güven said:
If they gave us enough money to go back where we came from, I would be more than happy to move out. Even though I was born and raised here.

Incase he does become the prime minister( the chances are low though), this country would be in chaos. no not only this country, the whole world would be messed up.
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Are you dutch by the way??
 
Nasiha21 said:
You know the scary thing thats going on right now?? Everyone wants the prime minister we have now to resign, his name is Balkende. He made some bad descisions about the Iraqi war. Guess who has a big chance on taking his place?? --> Wilders!
Please make dua he wont make it to prime minister..Else were done for seriously...ill move to Morocco though i hate it there..

Salaam
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I don't think he has a chance of becoming prime minister. Really no chance. First he needs to become the largest party, which is almost unthinkable, as the Christian Democrats are still way ahead of him in polls. Even if his party does become the biggest he needs at least two other parties to make a majority. I just can't imagine anyone forming a government with him.
 
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AlHoda said:
:sl:

The man is just looking for trouble, if he was smart enough that others befor him ended in up in a ugly way. People like Pim Fortuin and Theo Van Gogh
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He is under constant protection though, unlike Fortuyn and van Gogh, who literally had no security at all.

I don't think Wilders being killed would really be a good thing for Dutch Muslims. I really don't.
 
Skavau said:
Excuse me sir, are you saying he should bow down to intimidation and threats?

I do not expect you would ask the same of Muslims speaking up or fighting what they perceive as repression. Yet you imply the same for Geert Wilders, that he should forfeit his right to an opinion because of threats of violence.

Do you not realise this is part of what he complains about? This is part of the image that you are contributing to? One of intimidation?

Irrespectively, concerning Geert Wilders. Yes he hates Islam, yes he's made some critical statements on it. But what hatred has he actually espoused? Has he implied violence? Has he threatened anyone?
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True, he has never called for violence, although he did make some remarks that police should be using live ammunition against rioting football hooligans. The remarks were not targeted at Muslims as such, but I don't think it is a coincidence that some of the rioters were Moroccans.

For me the most unforgiving remark has been that he wants to ban the Qu'ran. He also occasionally compares the Qu'ran to Mein Kampf. That comparison is an important part of the trial actually. Mein Kampf is the only book in the Netherlands that is explicitly banned by law. Clearly he believes Islam is fascist. His opponents believe he is fascist. Neither is true IMHO.

But like Islamic extremism, we need to keep a close eye on him. I believe he is a threat to our freedoms.
 
Abdul Fattah said:
I can't help but laugh at the irony of a guy who abuses freedom of speech to incite hatred, yet at the same times wants to ban books.
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You people have somebody like him as well right? I dunno his name, he looks a bit like Harry Potter but without the glasses. He sort of has the same thoughts as Wilders. You know the thing? I think they have had some bad experiences with foreign people in the past, thats why they kinda hate us..
Have you noticed Wilders made his hair white. When you look carefully you will see he has black hair underneith. I think maybe he had a foreign dad and he abandoned him or so. Gotta be some reason behind all this. Or maybe he got mugged by a foreigner in the past and he lost something valuable i dunno. I honestly think he didnt wake up one day and thought: lets hate on the foreigners..this is getting hilarious seriously:D
 
Skavau said:
Excuse me sir, are you saying he should bow down to intimidation and threats?
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He is determined to make the lives of Muslims miserable, not the other way around. He is also inciting hatred and spreading lies. I'm not surprised that you're supporting your fellow atheist brother.
 
Argamemnon said:
He is determined to make the lives of Muslims miserable, not the other way around. He is also inciting hatred and spreading lies. I'm not surprised that you're supporting your fellow atheist brother.
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Brother seriously why do you have to get like this?? Its just an opinion she or he has. Dont have to get like that all of a sudden...:)

Salaam you know: Peace?
Even to people we disagree with..

Do notice there are a lot of dutch people on this forum, surprising seriously
 
Nasiha21 said:
Brother seriously why do you have to get like this?? Its just an opinion she or he has. Dont have to get like that all of a sudden...:)

Salaam you know: Peace?
Even to people we disagree with..

Do notice there are a lot of dutch people on this forum, surprising seriously
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I think there's one million Muslims in the Netherlands, out of 16 million people.
 
Re: Dutch MP in court over anti-Islam comments

Now how did I know that was going to be Geert Wilders :rollseyes
 
This whole trial will be a big PR show for Wilders. If he loses he'll be a 'martyr for free speech'. If he wins he'll feel strengthened and even more free to say anything he wants. Either way he wins politically.

This just shows once again why these 'hate speech' laws and trials are ineffective.
 

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