Would any theists here behave less morally if "there was no God"?

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...but why is it against God's will?
I can see why he would not like us harming other humans, as that would be destruction of his most precious creation, the one made in his image.

Do sins harm him somehow?
 
Ah, when things are hypothetical, I don't believe any of the answerers are capable of comprehending the reality of the situation. Hence, when we answer, we do so with an odd sense of realism that isn't real at all.

When replying to your seemingly simple question, one must consider the change to the world as a whole, and not an individual. Would the rules/punishments for the crimes/wrong-doings/whatever you wish to call it, be more lax? Or harsher than it is now? Those questions may not appear to have any relation to your original query, but they do. Our actions then would be affected by society a great deal. Even more then than it is now, perhaps.

And taking those into account, I don't think I'm capable of comprehending something on such a large-scale. But, if things were to go my way entirely, I'd still have some self-righteousness in me. Or so I like to think anyway. Heh.
 
Gubbleknucker said:
...but why is it against God's will?
I can see why he would not like us harming other humans, as that would be destruction of his most precious creation, the one made in his image.

Do sins harm him somehow?
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How does transgressing his will equate to harming him?
 
Of course, assuming existance could be without God.. hard to imagine.. but sure. I would of course throw out any moral standards as morality is from God, that is what makes it superior to man, that is why morality is universal. If morality was relative, then I wouldn't have any moral code what so ever.

Why should I? If there was no God, I wouldn't have a conscience. Why shouldn't I set my self up as a war lord, have many teenage wives, and eat babies for dinner? Maybe I would become a racialist as well and subject and oppress millions and start a slave trade as well.

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JP.
 
Greetings,
Jon Paul said:
I would of course throw out any moral standards as morality is from God, that is what makes it superior to man, that is why morality is universal.
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Morality is clearly not universal: just think of all the different moral attitudes that exist in different cultures, and which have done throughout history.

In ancient Greece, homosexuality was considered absolutely normal; in 7th century Medina it was considered perfectly OK for Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to have sex with a nine-year old girl. Obviously, many people wouldn't agree with those views.

Peace
 
czgibson said:
Greetings,


Morality is clearly not universal: just think of all the different moral attitudes that exist in different cultures, and which have done throughout history.

In ancient Greece, homosexuality was considered absolutely normal; in 7th century Medina it was considered perfectly OK for Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to have sex with a nine-year old girl. Obviously, many people wouldn't agree with those views.

Peace
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Did he marry her or have sex at that age?
 
The Ruler said:
Ah, when things are hypothetical, I don't believe any of the answerers are capable of comprehending the reality of the situation. Hence, when we answer, we do so with an odd sense of realism that isn't real at all.

When replying to your seemingly simple question, one must consider the change to the world as a whole, and not an individual. Would the rules/punishments for the crimes/wrong-doings/whatever you wish to call it, be more lax? Or harsher than it is now? Those questions may not appear to have any relation to your original query, but they do. Our actions then would be affected by society a great deal. Even more then than it is now, perhaps.

And taking those into account, I don't think I'm capable of comprehending something on such a large-scale. But, if things were to go my way entirely, I'd still have some self-righteousness in me. Or so I like to think anyway. Heh.
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*meaningful nod of the head*

My sentiments exactly.

I personally feel this, the original, question was poorly articulated and contradictory (at the least). How anyone managed to answer it is beside me. But then again, I suppose the adding the phrase "assuming such and such is possible" made it fathomable to most. Fun that.

:wa:
 
Too answer this question, I would play MMORPGs and get a girlfriend. But I like the rules in the Qu'ran like no stealing and killing people so the world really would be incomplete without him(which is not possible). But on the good side I would finally be able to get on World Of Warcraft and get my rogue up to 80. but then what about death? there would be no heaven or hell ahhh
 
index123 said:
Too answer this question, I would play MMORPGs and get a girlfriend. But I like the rules in the Qu'ran like no stealing and killing people so the world really would be incomplete without him(which is not possible). But on the good side I would finally be able to get on World Of Warcraft and get my rogue up to 80. but then what about death? there would be no heaven or hell ahhh
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Muslims are forbidden playing video games?
 
index123 said:
If the sins don't hurt someone then they hurt yourself, you are also property of God. He made use, he is only lending us everything, so hurting yourself is the same as hurting someone.
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I agree. A clear example of this is that strongly discouraged/prohibited even though you are killing yourself - you are God's creation so it is akin to murder.
 
Pygoscelis said:
Muslims are forbidden playing video games?
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I don't know games are doubtful subject to me, although I think nowadays muslims get alot more lee-way because the world is basically in a very bad state so I guess video games are acceptable, on the other hand it is really the content in WoW that makes it bad, it includes magic, gods, and classes that have to wield idols to acquire gear score. Although really I have no solid Islamic ruling on it so no I cannot say its haram or not. The part of it that probably does make it haram though is that it is addictive and wastes your time. And alot of the times I find myself playing it again so if its unlawful I'm in trouble ;D
 
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As muslims speculating about these kind of things is not befitting, because there is no point in it. Why would you talk about sins that you would want to commit?

لا يومن احدكم حتى يكون هواه تبعا لما جئت به

"None of you truly believes until his desires are in accordance with what I came with."

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