would you feel embarrassed?

[جوري]

Oh I don't mind really, it reflects negatively on him, not me.

I'm still unsure why we even have a matter as simple and insignificant as washing feet in a sink being discussed at such length.

meh.. slow news day?.. no one took interest in a potential new AIDS vaccine out on the market but washing your feet gets a fifty page diatribe! ^o)

strange world..

 

[ChOcCi]

Are you ACTUALLY suggesting that one should care more for a job, interview and the boss's reaction than the reaction of an All-Powerful God upon missing something that he has COMMANDED you to do else face punishment? That's kind of ticking me off.

No dude, the thing is, your out of a job, broke, and DESPERATELY in need for money and after failing at quite a few job interviews, you finally get to one where there is ALOT of competition but you actually do stand a chance. Now, you see that the time for your Magrib prayers are slipping by and as you know, these "bosses" have QUTIE a busy schedule but still made time for your interview, so are you going to tell him to sit there for five minutes while you finish your prayers?

Even here, I think 1 rakat prayer can be sacrificed for this situation. Im sure this would not qualify as a sin as Allah would understand the situation, BUT if you DO ask for time off to pray, Allah will be extra please with you, thats for sure.. Thats according to my beliefs ofcourse...

One thing you people dont get is Allah is our creator of EVERYTHING and he is fair and just. He is Allah and his laws of suwab and sin arent all written down in a formula. He obviously gives fair judgements to EVERY single action of yours. And if you missed 1 rakat of prayers JUST in order to survive, he would most definitely forgive you (in my opinion). I know my opinion isnt enough, but all of you people are acting like extremists.. Its good to be religious, but "extremity" of ANYTHING is bad.

Learn fiqh. Obviously, you break your prayer.

And well, I dont know what you mean by this, but what exactly is fiqh?

P.S my prayers do break sometimes when weird stuff suddenly flock into my head while im praying and I mess up the procedure... can you shed any light on this?


@the dude who reported me and thinks he's all cool by doing that: I would have removed the word "hypocrite" from my post if I had an EDIT button, but hey, my post just stings a little due to its aggressive style.. but it doesnt have anything against the rules.

 

[S_87]

OK, this kinda ticked me off. Allah isnt forcing us to be slaves in a military concentration prison camp alright? He understands everything, he knows everything. If your sitting at home doing work (even if it is important), you MUST pray as you can easily spare 5 minutes to do this with proper facilities.. But are you ACTUALLY suggesting that your gonna tell your boss in an INTERVIEW to give you 5 minutes to pray and come back? Really? Would you?

hmmmmmmmmm
ok so 5 times a day prayer. is the prayer limit only 10 mins that in those 10 mins one MUST pray or is the timing longer? if youre in an interview and you needed to vomit or take some pills or use the bathroom, what would you do? excuse urself or do whatever u need to right on the table?

hmm, question time!! (God forbid) Suppose you were praying (at the FIRST part of it) and god forbid your kid who was playing on the bed (beside the spot where you are praying) suddenly suffers brains hemorrhage and starts spluttering on your bed. Are you going to FINISH your prayers and THEN go help out your son? Answer me honestly because I cant stand people who lie.

break prayer and help the child duh. Allah is Most Merciful, there are instances in which breaking the prayer is totally done

I for one would stop my prayer immediately and take my son to the hospital. Once I make sure hes safely in the operation room under doctors care, ill finish my prayers THEN and ONLY THEN (unless Allah sends me a message to do otherwise). And this wouldnt even be a sin in my opinion. You know why? I skipped the prayer because I had to save my sons life which is worth ALOT more than just a 1 rakat prayer. But miss extremist here would probably claim that she would do otherwise. Now, wouldnt you?

you not having any knowledge or sense coming here and calling a member an extremist is quite hilarious. and pathetic

 

[ChOcCi]

hmmmmmmmmm
ok so 5 times a day prayer. is the prayer limit only 10 mins that in those 10 mins one MUST pray or is the timing longer? if youre in an interview and you needed to vomit or take some pills or use the bathroom, what would you do? excuse urself or do whatever u need to right on the table?

Id definitely postpone my pills (it gives the impression that i get sick easily) and id hold my "call to nature" feeling for as long as I can (it breaks schedule letting off a bad impression) in order to finish the interview and let off a good first impression. Please, do refer to my reply to alpha dude and consider that situation.


And at both amani and crayon, I apologize for my aggressiveness on my post back there, I sometimes get very emotional over things I dont agree with and I DID want to edit my post there but my low number of posts did not allow me to do so. I hope you understand.

 

[S_87]

Oh really mr. hypocrite? Is that true? Do you know why I called you an hypocrite?

listen missy. id like to know why u called me a mr.

Well, lets put it this way, do you get offended when stereotype western people call us muslims - terrorists? If you do, that makes you a hypocrite (if you dont, that proves that you agree with them) because you just stated that "men in the west pee and dont wash their hands" which is blatantly untrue and was a stereotype comment.

quote me full. and whilst youre at it look at the full topic to see what context im speaking of. i couldnt care less what you call me.

Infact, sometimes almost ALL of us act like hypocrites including me. I mean, whenever we talk about the "western culture" we ALWAYS say that the western people freely have sex and wear inappropriate clothes. But apart from the middle east, are the muslim population in this world so different? People in these other "muslim countries" go around wearing quite revealing clothes and they change boyfriends / girlfriends every month or so. What do you say to that?

if a person is muslim and freely having sex-same thing if not worse. all thats in the west isnt bad just like all thats in muslim countries isnt good. but because the west for example may think homosexuality is normal and fine i will not think thats a good thing in the west. and any so called muslim who agrees with it-the same to them. we dont make the rules as muslims, we follow them.

If we want the west to stop calling us terrorists, we MUST change first, and we can start by stop associating them with adultery ALL the time.

where did this adultery business come up?

I for one really get upset when I see someone acting like a hypocrite or lying in order to make oneself look better than he / she is so I apologize for the aggressiveness in my post.

and i for one really get upset when stupid people make stupid posts that are totally irrelevant. but what the heck

 

[S_87]

Id definitely postpone my pills (it gives the impression that i get sick easily) and id hold my "call to nature" feeling for as long as I can (it breaks schedule letting off a bad impression) in order to finish the interview and let off a good first impression. Please, do refer to my reply to alpha dude and consider that situation.


And at both amani and crayon, I apologize for my aggressiveness on my post back there, I sometimes get very emotional over things I dont agree with and I DID want to edit my post there but my low number of posts did not allow me to do so. I hope you understand.

ok i read your reply.
if an interview is going to be really long like over 1 hour then salah could be a problem. if a person is about to interview u but sees you praying i doubt they are gonna tell you to get up NOW. salah doesnt take long and if you need to pray then u need to pray.

 

[ChOcCi]

hmm, well, point taken.. ill try not to judge people so quick from now on..

But listen, I think if you think over this properly, even YOU cannot deny this FACT.


As long as we associate the western people with things like shallowness, sinful adultery, drugs, etc. The western people are not wrong in calling us Muslims terrorists.

If we want THEM to change, WE OURSELVES have to change first.

And yes, I made this analogy (donno if I used it correctly here) to show you that what you said about the western people (that they dont wash their hands after they use the toilet) is not true and EXTREMELY stereotyped of you to say so...

 

[IbnAbdulHakim]

As long as we associate the western people with things like shallowness, sinful adultery, drugs, etc. The western people are not wrong in calling us Muslims terrorists.

lmao talk about nonsense seriously.

considering the west to be shameless and sinful is not wrong - it is very correct. CALLING THEM it like a fool, in a way which will make them angry may not be the most intelligent thing to be done however they should DEFINITLY one way or another be WARNED about their way of life.

this in NO WAY gives them the right to call us TERRORISTS because we have caused NO ACT OF TERROR but have acted out of the goodness of our hearts.

If we want THEM to change, WE OURSELVES have to change first.
...

no arguments there bob :thumbs_up


Assalamu Alaikum

 

[transition?]

This is a really big problem for me. I get really embarrassed easily over many things. I'm used to praying at my house in extreme privacy and among people I know.
Even though there is nothing to be embarrassed about I just get these feelings of anxiety, which is nothing new but it distracts me from prayer. I wish I didn't care what people think, but since I was little it's been a natural instinct. One that is a constant struggle to get over.

But my roommate is nonMuslim. We have a sink on our dorm. I put my feet in it. She doesn't care much. I was soooooo worried when I moved in. Then I pray in front of her and outside in the lounge (now that she has posters everywhere in our dorm). People come by all the time. Most of my neighbors are used to. So it's like yeah that's just Transition praying. she does it everyday. But new passerbys are always popping in.

But there is only one thing that really crosses my mind... It's something Anwar Al Awlaki once said.."If there is something worth taking pride in, it's your religion."

There's a line between being proud of your religion and praying for the sake of other than Allah (swt). I don't have a problem praying to show other people, but sometimes I get nervous praying. But it's something I have to do, my mind kicking and screaming. I'm overwhelmed with my anxiety. It's like a rush of feelings. I've been shy most of the my childhood. But that natural anxiety is something you'll have to get over with when there's so much more at stake.. the value of a few rakats.

Be confident, find your salat, what can passerbys do? Have the thoughts of nonMuslims have interferred of what you believe?

My roommate has gotten used to the sticking my feet in the sink lol.

Most people are just baffled by your prayer. It's nothing to get nervous about.

That's what I keep telling myself everyday, It's been working for the most part.

It's something you just have to get used to.

 

[Najm]

hmm, well, point taken.. ill try not to judge people so quick from now on..

But listen, I think if you think over this properly, even YOU cannot deny this FACT.


As long as we associate the western people with things like shallowness, sinful adultery, drugs, etc. The western people are not wrong in calling us Muslims terrorists.

If we want THEM to change, WE OURSELVES have to change first.

And yes, I made this analogy (donno if I used it correctly here) to show you that what you said about the western people (that they dont wash their hands after they use the toilet) is not true and EXTREMELY stereotyped of you to say so...

AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehmatuAllah WaBarkatuhu

Your posts suggest you may have many issues with the rulings of prayer etc. I suggest you research the area. To put it simply for you under certain circumstances such as life or death one can break prayer.

Moreover, i suggest you use your words carefully, and suggest you avoid terms which you may not fully understand.

Moreover the western people are wrong in calling us (Muslims) terrorists, as i havent seen ANY acts of terror. Its just a label given by the media and only accpeted by you as per your post.

Moreover yes we Muslims do need to change. But your suggesting we change for them, we change for their sake. And that is wrong, we Muslims take only into account what our Lord commands us, we change only for his sake. We dont fear anyone except Him.

Moreover, you may not have left your house for a long time, but "in the west", adultery, drugs, clubbing, pubbing, anit-social behaviour, as well as the revolting level of toilet ettiquettes as suggested by this thread is very common practice. This isnt "Extemely stereotypical", spend a day in the public toilets and you'll see for yourself the revolting activites that commonly occur.

Finally when i say "you", i am not refering to you, i am refering to anyone reading

FiAmaaniAllah

 

[Cabdullahi]

Whats going on here from blackened dinosaur eggs to smelly feet to aids vaccine to dubai airport to extremism to brain hemorrhage ??

 

[Najm]

AsSalamOAlaikum WaRehmatuAllah WaBarkatuhu

Sorry, Lets stay on topic.....From the OP....u

Qn: would you be embarrassed to do wudoo/pray in front of them, or would you go ahead and do it anyway and not care about what they say and consider it as an act of dawah?

why/why not?

No i wouldnt get embarrassed!! I rather do my wudu, keep my body clean, and pray for the sake of Allah!!

FiAmaaniAllah

 

['Abd al-Baari]

Whats going on here from blackened dinosaur eggs to smelly feet to aids vaccine to dubai airport to extremism to brain hemorrhage ??

Well said, thread closed.