Your Opinion on Israel

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well get them out the same way they got in, however that may be.
 
Israel has every right to exist and should be allowed to defend their land. The expansion into Gaza and the West Bank is just disgusting, but Israel itself has the right to exist.
 
im saying get them out of gaza and scatter them through yonder western countries. i couldnt care less about the people of the west.

and why does israel have the right to exist? because jews share a skin colour?
 
tango92 said:
im saying get them out of gaza and scatter them through yonder western countries. i couldnt care less about the people of the west.

and why does israel have the right to exist? because jews share a skin colour?
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Well - It seems to be Allh's will.

Everything has a right to exist simply because it exists as this is Allah's will.

The real thing is to know how to avoid hurt and being hurt by the different things
in Allah's world.

In fact - the only thing in the world which should not exist at all is the concept of
non-believing - if we would solve this problem all other problems would just be
solved by themselves.
 
a rapist doesnt have the right to rape simply because he can.

sure jews have a right to live, but not a right to murder innocents for some land. the only way israel can exist is by bloody wrs, hence it does not have the right to exist.
 
Here's a wonderful idea that both Palestinian and Israeli leaders should consider: Diplomacy. Ever heard of it? It's when two opposing sides talk out their problems and try to come to a solution. I'm tired of all this Palestinians are innocent and the Israelis are bad and vice versa.The Palestinian militants are behaving with utmost dishonor, and are in violation of the Quran. Don't get me wrong, the incidents where Israelis target unarmed civilians is just as bad. Palestinians could've had a state in 2000, but Arafat didn't want it.
 
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Here's a wonderful idea that both Palestinian and Israeli leaders should consider: Diplomacy. Ever heard of it? It's when two opposing sides talk out their problems and try to come to a solution. I'm tired of all this Palestinians are innocent and the Israelis are bad and vice versa.The Palestinian militants are behaving with utmost dishonor, and are in violation of the Quran. Don't get me wrong, the incidents where Israelis target unarmed civilians is just as bad. Palestinians could've had a state in 2000, but Arafat didn't want it.
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True.

But secular diplomacy would never solve this problem which is religious.
 
It's not really religious, but political. Except for Jerusalem, which can be shared. There Islam and Judaism and Christians have holy sites.
 
Boaz said:
It's not really religious, but political. Except for Jerusalem, which can be shared. There Islam and Judaism and Christians have holy sites.
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Well - that is exactly the point.

If the question of Jerusalem would be solved the rest of the problem would be solved.

The reason it is not solved is because the Israeli's refuse to deal with this question in
religious terms and this leads to the whole suffering for everybody.
 
Dear God, if we both put down our weapons and come to a solution, we could have one of the greatest states in the world. It's not like Muslims and Jews can't co-exist. There was the Ottoman Empire, Muslim Spain, and we get along just fine in secular countries, so why not in our own lands?
 
Boaz said:
Dear God, if we both put down our weapons and come to a solution, we could have one of the greatest states in the world. It's not like Muslims and Jews can't co-exist. There was the Ottoman Empire, Muslim Spain, and we get along just fine in secular countries, so why not in our own lands?
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Because the Israeli government is stubborn and does not want to fulfill its duty which is quite simple and easy to follow.

There has been many voices through out the years which have suggested to them very good resolutions which would lead to prosperity for all - just like you said, an option of having one of the greatest states ever which would lead to abundance for everyone.

However, they are stubborn and confused and never want to listen.
 
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Hamas has to put down their weapons too and start being willing to listen.
 
Boaz said:
Hamas has to put down their weapons too and start being willing to listen.
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Hamas does not have any weapons. Hamas has a few pipes. Even these pipes it gets from sources which care in no way about what is done in the middle east. In short - the problem is not Hamas - the problem is chronic immaturity.
 
:hmm: The state of Israel can never be challenged or destroyed until the day the Islamic Khilafah is established. My views on the current state of Israel is that it should be the way it is and may defend it until the hour comes, but I hope it should put an end to the murderous attacks on innocent Palestinians. However we become complacent by commenting that there should be no new settlements, Israel should stop illegal attacks etc.

This is what I think! anyone can comment on my views :p
 
The problem is Israel, and ONLY Israel. They need they pack their bags and get the heck out of Shams. Before the whooping starts and they will hide behind trees. I heard that they started to plant those trees that wont speak against them near day of Judgement.
 
Boaz said:
Palestinians could've had a state in 2000, but Arafat didn't want it.
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This is a joke. Please do some reading or look at previous threads to educate yourself on what was offered and concessions made. Israel is plainly the aggressor and the one not willing to compromise. This is not my opinion but a fact. Look at every attempt at peace and negotiation, and from where it came.
 
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