Zeeland, ND

[Ramadhan]

The definition of city is defined by each state. North Dakota calls every incorporated area a City. Currently the smallest city in ND is Maza with a population of 5, Ruso held that distinction for a long time with a population of 3. But, Ruso had a big population increase last year and doubled in size and now has a population of 6.

Did a couple get a triple twins?

 

[yasin ibn Ahmad]

what about education?Do you have school or teachers nearby?

 

[Fishman]

One important question: do you have zombies there?

 

[Woodrow]

what about education?Do you have school or teachers nearby?

For universities we have NDSU North Dakota State University which actually is very highly rated and has a considerable number of Students from other Countries, at least 1 Forum member is a student there. It has a very active Muslim Student's Association--although their website is seldom updated
http://sites.google.com/site/msandsu/

and a fair number of Muslim Students from The UK, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq and several other Islamic countries.

For Grade School, home schooling is very common. But there are schools, often one school will serve several counties. There is one in Zeeland the students come in by bus from up to 100 miles away. It is a very long school bus trip for some of the students and they spend 4-5 hours on the school bus each way. In the winter time most will home school, the school bus is out of the question when the roads are covered with ice and snow.

 

[Woodrow]

One important question: do you have zombies there?

Caution: Fish is the State food. Fishing both recreational and commercial is very popular. The fish usually caught are Salmon, trout, Bass, pike, muskellunge and walleye, walleye seem to be the faorite for both sport and eating.

a fishman would not have to worry about any zombies but might have trouble with fanatical fishermen

 

[Fishman]

Caution: Fish is the State food. Fishing both recreational and commercial is very popular. The fish usually caught are Salmon, trout, Bass, pike, muskellunge and walleye, walleye seem to be the faorite for both sport and eating.

a fishman would not have to worry about any zombies but might have trouble with fanatical fishermen

How can fish be the State food of a landlocked state?

 

[Woodrow]

How can fish be the State food of a landlocked state?

Not all fish come from the ocean, some of the best fish are fresh water, especially from the colder regions that have numerous lakes and rivers of unpolluted water. ND is fortunate to have very clear pure glacial water and rivers that connect to the sea providing for an abundance of fish.

The fish most commonly sold commercialy are walleye.

ND has some very complex fishing laws they have international overtones as ND and Canada share quite a few rivers and lakes, so the laws have to be applicable for both countries.

 

[Fishman]

Not all fish come from the ocean, some of the best fish are fresh water, especially from the colder regions that have numerous lakes and rivers of unpolluted water. ND is fortunate to have very clear pure glacial water and rivers that connect to the sea providing for an abundance of fish.

The fish most commonly sold commercialy are walleye.

ND has some very complex fishing laws they have international overtones as ND and Canada share quite a few rivers and lakes, so the laws have to be applicable for both countries.

Have you ever had a fish war? We did with Iceland. It would be interesting to see battlecruisers trying to sail up some little freshwater streams!

 

[OurIslamic]

I recently moved from California to Massachusetts. It's a BIG difference!

 

[Woodrow]

Have you ever had a fish war? We did with Iceland. It would be interesting to see battlecruisers trying to sail up some little freshwater streams!

Not exactly little streams The Missouri river that passes through is the second Largest river, by volume in the US and the longest in the US. Actually between the Mo and the Red river there is connection to the sea. I believe in the early 1900s Fargo was a sea port, although it was a 4,000 mile trip down river before they reached the ocean.

But still no big worry about any need for Battle Cruisers. I figure if we took the entire population of ND we would have to talk a bunch of Canadians to join us so we would have enough to man it.

 

[Fishman]

Not exactly little streams The Missouri river that passes through is the second Largest river, by volume in the US and the longest in the US. Actually between the Mo and the Red river there is connection to the sea. I believe in the early 1900s Fargo was a sea port, although it was a 4,000 mile trip down river before they reached the ocean.

But still no big worry about any need for Battle Cruisers. I figure if we took the entire population of ND we would have to talk a bunch of Canadians to join us so we would have enough to man it.

Our fish war was the only war ever between two democratic states! With zero causualties, apart from fish, of course.

 

[Grace Seeker]

Lovely thread, surprising information.I really liked this thread .Thanks for sharing Woodrow.I wouldn't believe if someone said a state in the US has a population under 1 milion.Is there any other states having low population?
and do you call it a city where you live? coz i thought cities have higher population.
looking forward to more pics and information

The least populated state in the US is Wyoming with less than just 493,782 people. The the city of Washington, D.C. has more people than that all by itself. I happen to live in the state of Illinois. When I mention that to people not from Illinois, they tend to immediately think of Chicago. It is a fairly good-sized city, once the 2nd largest in the USA (now third) with a population of 2,896,016 people. That is roughly the same as Wyoming, Vermont, Alaska, North Dakota, and South Dakota all added together. In addition to those 5, Delaware and Montana also have less 1 million people living in them.

But even when you in a fairly large state Illinois with a good sized population and a world class city like Chicago, there is still a lot of empty space most places. Illinois is much more than just Chicago. Most of Illinois is also farmland, just like North Dakota. Our farms are not quite as large and we have several cities (not just Chicago) larger than North Dakota's largest; nevertheless, most of it is NOT urban. Every time I drive somewhere, I have to be careful about deer being on the road. It is nothing to also see raccoons, possums, fox, or coyote. When I used to live along the Mississippi River, I could watch eagles fly overhead from the couch in my living room.

There was a TV show on years ago, MASH, in which the actors used their real hometowns as the hometowns for their characters. One of them, McClean Stevenson, was from Bloomington, Illinois. I remember when his character talked about how small it was because to me it was "the city" -- about 60,000. It took us an hour to drive there, but when we did there were restaurants and movie theathers, and all sorts of things that we never even dreamed of. Eventually I even attended university in that town. But I have to admit, it is still just an overgrown version of other small Illinois towns. It doesn't think like most cities think.

Today, I live in a county seat, the principal governement municipality in our area. And the town is still so small that we have exactly 2 groceries, 3 gas stations, and 5 stoplights.

You asked if there are other rural areas in the US. Well, I know that Woodrow said that North Dakota is the least densely populated state in the USA. I think that Wyoming is the least densely populated state. It might depend on which census you look up. But I can tell you that last summer we drove across it and I went 20 miles (32 km) without even seeing another car, let alone a town. Southern California and the east coast from Boston to New York to Philadelphia to Washington is one gigantic city, even including open spaces it still averages out to more than 1100 people per square mile (450 per square km) -- the cities themselves are 10X that. But once you leave those two coasts and start moving inland you are looking at an average that is less than 1/15th of that even with cities like Chicago thrown in.

In fact, just to give a sense of how the USA really is two different worlds, our largest city, New York City, is only 13th on the list of world cities; but even still, just as a city, it is larger than the population of all but 8 of the 50 United States.

 

[Woodrow]

The least populated state in the US is Wyoming with less than just 493,782 people. The the city of Washington, D.C. has more people than that all by itself. I happen to live in the state of Illinois. When I mention that to people not from Illinois, they tend to immediately think of Chicago. It is a fairly good-sized city, once the 2nd largest in the USA (now third) with a population of 2,896,016 people. That is roughly the same as Wyoming, Vermont, Alaska, North Dakota, and South Dakota all added together. In addition to those 5, Delaware and Montana also have less 1 million people living in them.

But even when you in a fairly large state Illinois with a good sized population and a world class city like Chicago, there is still a lot of empty space most places. Illinois is much more than just Chicago. Most of Illinois is also farmland, just like North Dakota. Our farms are not quite as large and we have several cities (not just Chicago) larger than North Dakota's largest; nevertheless, most of it is NOT urban. Every time I drive somewhere, I have to be careful about deer being on the road. It is nothing to also see raccoons, possums, fox, or coyote. When I used to live along the Mississippi River, I could watch eagles fly overhead from the couch in my living room.

There was a TV show on years ago, MASH, in which the actors used their real hometowns as the hometowns for their characters. One of them, McClean Stevenson, was from Bloomington, Illinois. I remember when his character talked about how small it was because to me it was "the city" -- about 60,000. It took us an hour to drive there, but when we did there were restaurants and movie theathers, and all sorts of things that we never even dreamed of. Eventually I even attended university in that town. But I have to admit, it is still just an overgrown version of other small Illinois towns. It doesn't think like most cities think.

Today, I live in a county seat, the principal governement municipality in our area. And the town is still so small that we have exactly 2 groceries, 3 gas stations, and 5 stoplights.

You asked if there are other rural areas in the US. Well, I know that Woodrow said that North Dakota is the least densely populated state in the USA. I think that Wyoming is the least densely populated state. It might depend on which census you look up. But I can tell you that last summer we drove across it and I went 20 miles (32 km) without even seeing another car, let alone a town. Southern California and the east coast from Boston to New York to Philadelphia to Washington is one gigantic city, even including open spaces it still averages out to more than 1100 people per square mile (450 per square km) -- the cities themselves are 10X that. But once you leave those two coasts and start moving inland you are looking at an average that is less than 1/15th of that even with cities like Chicago thrown in.

In fact, just to give a sense of how the USA really is two different worlds, our largest city, New York City, is only 13th on the list of world cities; but even still, just as a city, it is larger than the population of all but 8 of the 50 United States.

Peace Gene, You are correct about Wyoming being the least populated and the lowest population density. But, that is for the lower 48 and excludes Alaska. I made an error when I said ND was the third least populated and included Alaska. It is third least dense in terms of the lower 48. Both Wyoming and Montana are less populated then ND.

To those who have never traveled by land through the interior states it is a surprise as to how sparsely populated the US is. To put it in perspective, stop and think there are 12 cities outside the US, each having a larger population then any one of 42 of our states. Or more dramatic, Afghanistan with a population density of 124 per square miles has a population density 1.5 times larger then the average US density.The USA is less densely populated than some of the Sahara Countries. Much of the USA does not look anything like what the movies show.

 

[Grace Seeker]

Much of the USA does not look anything like what the movies show.

Two of my favorite movies, Field of Dreamns and A River Runs Through It, look remarkably like Iowa and Montana, respectively.

 

[Woodrow]

Two of my favorite movies, Field of Dreamns and A River Runs Through It, look remarkably like Iowa and Montana, respectively.

Both of those movies look more like America actually looks than any other movie I know of. If a person were to drive through all of the 50 States that is the scenery they would see most often. So far I have lived/extended visited in every State East of the continental divide (some only for a month or 2) and now putting a good dent in those west of it. I have yet to fail to find one that does not have enough rural and wilderness area to keep a country boy happy. Although, I do have some favorite places such as small towns on the Texas Coast like Sea Drift and Port Lavaca and the Atchafalaya Basin in Louisiana. Beau Bridge comes to mind. The Dakotas and Minnesota also have large appeal for me except for Minneapolis/St. Paul For the time being I am happy to call North Dakota Home.

 

[Grace Seeker]

And sadly, Talledega Nights (the 2nd worst movie I ever saw) also fairly accurately portrays that slice of Alabama (and south Georgia).

 

[Woodrow]

And sadly, Talledega Nights (the 2nd worst movie I ever saw) also fairly accurately portrays that slice of Alabama (and south Georgia).

In Alabama my favorite place is Dauphine Island, In Mobile bay, can be reached by ferry or bridge (Bridge is at the North eastern end) Beautiful place. but no place to be in Hurricane season.

 

[zakirs]

Woodrow does living at your grandmas home make you nostalgic ? Do you remember her ? It must be super fun to see that house and go back to childhood ?

 

[Woodrow]

Woodrow does living at your grandmas home make you nostalgic ? Do you remember her ? It must be super fun to see that house and go back to childhood ?

LOL Grandma is the pet name for my wife Aabidah, several members here refer to her as Gramma like they call me Grampa.. It was her old house. She bought it about 15 years agao, but moved out of it 10 years ago when she started raising horses in South Dakota on the Cheyenne River Sioux reservation. She couldn't find any buyers for the house so she just left it.

My childhood houses are long gone. The one I grew up in (My grandparents farm) burned down about 30 years ago. This is the first time I ever lived in North Dakota.

 

[zakirs]

The one I grew up in (My grandparents farm) burned down about 30 years ago

very sad ..

LOL Grandma is the pet name for my wife Aabidah, several members here refer to her as Gramma like they call me Grampa

oops my bad ..