Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbullah in Lebanon has rejected Bush's call for the militia to disarm that drew the response from Bush that Hezbollah will remain a US designated "terrorist" organization.
"I'm holding on to the weapons of the resistance because I think the resistance ... is the best formula to protect Lebanon and to deter any Israeli aggression," Nasrallah said in a live interview with Hizbollah's al-Manar
television.
Nasrallah made clear Hizbollah's weapons would be used only against Israel and not internally in Lebanon, which was torn by a 1975-90 civil war, and called again for dialogue between the various political groups in Lebanon.
He spoke Wednesday in response to Bush’s concern for ‘saving Israeli-skin’, who said Hezbollah could play a political role in Lebanon if it disarmed and supported the Israeli-Palestinian peace process.
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What right do the Jews have in Palestine, which is the historical land of Arabs and Muslims till the Last Day and which has become a part of Muslim values and a trust upon them? The Muslims shall never neglect a inch of that land as long as they live. The right the Jews are claiming to the land is based on mere superstitions which has no support or justification. Five decades have now passed over the issue of Palestine and its suffering but where are the Muslims?
But you cannat ask the same question my friend, because the Isrealis's are a illegal nation, a illegal people living on illegal ground.
Your wrong opinion doesn't make it true. It's a legal country on ground that belonged to the Jews long before Islam and christianity, both of which have spent the past 2000 years passing it back and forth. Now the palestinians live on it illegally, as they refuse to live there peacefully, products of the original terrorists who refused to live their peacefully.
The war will end when you let it Hash.
سلام
الله اكبر
لا إله إلا الله
أمّة إسرائيل حيّه
هذا أرضي و بلدي
What right do the Jews have in Palestine, which is the historical land of Arabs and Muslims till the Last Day and which has become a part of Muslim values and a trust upon them? The Muslims shall never neglect a inch of that land as long as they live. The right the Jews are claiming to the land is based on mere superstitions which has no support or justification. Five decades have now passed over the issue of Palestine and its suffering but where are the Muslims?
No support or justification? Are you saying the Quran lied when it said when it recorded the Jews living in Israel? Are you saying that the archeological evidence that Jews lived in Israel are forged? Or, let us not forget, the families of Jews who have lived their since before the destruction of the 2nd temple - and still do to this very day.
No one can honestly say that Israel was not historically the land of the Jews. To do so is to ignore thousands of years of history.
And you may friend are ignoring thousands of years of history when muslims owned this land.
Hash, I was under the impression that Muslims have lived there for ~1000 years, not thousands of years. Was I wrong? If so, when did they first live there?
And for the record, I am not ignoring the fact that Muslims have lived in Israel.
format_quote Originally Posted by Hash
There is no justification of the illegal state of Isreal and verily the islamic resistance will not stop until they reclaim every inch of the land.
Every inch? Are you saying that Jews have no right to live in Israel? Why should one group be favored to the other? And what about the Jewish holy sites? What about the lands that have never left Jewish ownership for the past 3000+ years? What about the families who have lived there for quite literally the past 2500 years?
Lastly, do not the passages in the Qu'ran that tell Jews to live in the land of Israel count? (If I were a Muslim Jew, I would make aliyah immediately based on them - but I am not Muslim, and I am non-zionist, and have no desire to immigrate at this time)
I am not saying that no jews can live in palestine. When the state of Isreal is crushed and erased from the map, and Palestine is re-established, jews will be free to live in peace and harmony in the Palestine land. AND, they will not be treated with a grudge or harshly.
Their crimes against Muslims in the modern age are many, including the following:
(a) Killing prisoners of war
Al-Sharq al-Awsat magazine quoted an Israeli researcher as saying that there were massacres that took place during the June War of 1967. Aryeh Yitzhaki, a professor at Bar Ilan University explained that in Tel Aviv the Israeli forces killed nearly 900 Egyptian soldiers after they had surrendered during that war. And he said in his radio interview that the greatest massacre took place in the area of al-‘Areesh, in the Sinai Peninsula, when a special unit of nearly 300 Egyptian and Palestinian soldiers of the Palestine Liberation Army were slaughtered.
(b) Setting fire to al-Masjid al-Aqsa
This fire took place on 21/8/1969, at the hands of a young man called Michael Rohan, an Australian citizen who burned the minbar of Salah al-Deen and destroyed it completely, and burned the south-eastern part of the roof of the mosque, destroying an area of some 1500 square meters out of a total area of 4400 square meters, i.e., one third of al-Masjid al-Aqsa. The authorities in Jerusalem cut off the water on the same day as the fire so that the fire could not be put out.
(c) Disrespect towards the Mus-haf
The Holy Qur’aan has been torn apart by Jewish soldiers and then used to wipe urine and faeces. Pages of the Mus-haf have been found strewn in bathrooms and covered with filth in some schools that the Jews used as army outposts during the first Intifada.
(d) The Deir Yassin massacre
Deir Yassin is an Arab village near Jerusalem, the number of whose inhabitants in 1948 was approximately 700. It came under attack by the Irgun gang led by Menachem Begin, the Stern gang led by Yitzhak Shamir, and the Haganah led by David Ben Gurion. This attack happened on 10/4/1948 at 2 a.m.. The villagers fought back and there was house-to-house fighting. This attack resulted in 250 killed, most of whom were women, children and old men. During the attack there were rapes and mutilations; the stomachs of pregnant women were ripped open, and houses were blown up.
(e) The Sabra and Chatila massacres in 1982
Sabra and Chatila were two Palestinian camps near Beirut, whose population before the massacre was 90,000. They were subjected to a horrendous massacre on Thursday 16/9/1982 at the hands of the Israeli forces and their Lebanese allies, under the supervision of the then Israeli Foreign Minister Ariel Sharon. Nearly three thousand people were killed, most of them women, children and old men.
And there are many, many other things. Their beliefs regarding Allaah and His Prophets are even worse. How can the Muslims not be happy when the Jewish invaders are killed?
Allaah will heal the hearts of the believers by killing them all. We have a true promise that will be fulfilled in this world, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said that Allaah will grant us victory over them and cause us to prevail over them, as it says in the hadeeth: “You will fight the Jews and prevail over them, until the rocks will say, ‘O Muslim, there is a Jew behind me, kill him.’” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 2925; Muslim, 2921.
I wouldn't be suprised if such things have happened. However, you can't just point and say "Look, they're damaging our holy sites!" because Palestinians have done the same things to Jewish Holy Sites.
Why just recently on March 30, 2005, The word "Allah" in Arabic was found hewn into the eastern wall of Jerusalem's Temple Mount. The vandalism was discovered on a half-meter section of the 2,000 year old wall, which is undergoing repair by a team of Jordanian engineers.
57 Ancient Synagogues - "On May 28, 1948 the Arab Legion completed the capture of the Jewish Quarter of the Old City of Jerusalem... the destruction, desecration and systematic looting of Jewish sites began and continued. 57 ancient synagogues (the oldest dated to the 13th century), libraries and centers of religious study were ransacked and 12 were totally and deliberately destroyed. Those that remained standing were defaced, used for housing of both people and animals."
"On the Mount of Olives, the Jordanian Arabs removed 38,000 tombstones from the ancient cemetery and used them as paving stones for roads and as construction material in Jordanian Army camps, including use as latrines. When the area was recaptured by Israel in 1967, graves were found open with the bones scattered. Parts of the cemetery were converted into parking lots, a filling station, and an asphalt road was built to cut through it. The Intercontinental Hotel was built at the top of the cemetery. Sadar Khalil, appointed by the Jordanian government as the official caretaker of the cemetery, built his home on the grounds using the stones robbed from graves. In 1967, the press published extensive photos documenting that Jewish gravestones were found in Jordanian Army camps, such as El Azariya, as well as in Palestinian walkways, steps, bathrooms, and pavement."
There's more, but that is sufficient enough to prove my point.
From an interesting read on a usenet discussion group....
"The Arabs conquered Palestine in 635 AD, stealing it from its legitimate Jewish rulers, who had evicted the Byzantines while being led by a woman general, one Hefzibah, who then restored Jewish sovereignty. Palestine was stolen from the Jews by the Arabs and not the other way around. Arab sovereignty over Palestine ended in 1071 when the area was conquered by Seljuk Turks."
Do you realize that that page claims that Jews were never enslaved in Egypt, nor did G-d free them from their slavery - a claim that (if true) would mean Islam and Judaism are wrong?
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