oh yes women in the west have many rights....they are treated a first class citizens, paid the same as mens wages, not exploited as sex objects, never get beaten by men, men always take responsiblity of the women the impregnate etc etc,the list can go on and on...some people in the west are very dellusional. If women have rights in the west then give me shariah any day...
You have absolutely no idea how rights, nor how law works do you?
can you give me some examples of what rights you are speaking of?
some ignorant men both in the east AND west treat women like second class citizens, to both extremes. under islamic law they do not stand a chance. which is why youve seen some people say there is no shariah country today...
I gave some above. As a non-muslim, I would have no say whatsoever in goverance of laws.
As a woman, you have very different privilages then men do.
You are such a funny guy. Go figure. If it was so perfect it would be all over the Isalmic world. The last true Islamic state was Afghanistan with those Taliban. Yeah, it was perfect eh!!!!!
Besides the UK is secular, our bloody history has taught us. Religion is like homosexuality. Do whatever you like in your own home, don't impose it on us thanks.
Islam doesnt say girls dont have a right to education, hence false, afghanistan wasnt a true Islamic state. i can list many other practices by the taliban which are not Islamic and not in line with a true Islamic state.
hence dont talk cr@p as you usually do and make up lies.
Then perhaps you could define a right as it seems your definition differs from mine.
What rights women have "on paper" and how their rights are protected are two different things. As a social worker the rights "women have in western countries sound great on paper but in reality they never happen. Social issues are huge in the west, next time i have to protect a woman whos repeatedly been bashed by her husband and has to go into hiding because the law/police cant do anything about it, i will refer her to you so that you can explain the definition of her rights....
What rights women have "on paper" and how their rights are protected are two different things. As a social worker the rights "women have in western countries sound great on paper but in reality they never happen. Social issues are huge in the west, next time i have to protect a woman whos repeatedly been bashed by her husband and has to go into hiding because the law/police cant do anything about it, i will refer her to you so that you can explain the definition of her rights....
Ah so agree with me then. Im curious, what situation specifically have you encountered where a woman has to go into hiding and police are not able to hlp?
Ah so agree with me then. Im curious, what situation specifically have you encountered where a woman has to go into hiding and police are not able to hlp?
What part of that statement didnt you understand? The beating? If i have to explain to you issues about domestic violence and why women go into hiding because husbands threaten to kill the women, and police cant do anything about it as there arent any witnesses(verbal threats only),they will do something when they find her dead body, well whats the point..
And who said i agree with you..how about you just keep believing that the west give women their rights and respects them, i wouldnt want to shatter your perfect world..
the west gives women their rights but do u think the women(unbelievers) use these rights to do something beneficial nooo!
some of them leave their children behind to go have a night out simply because they feel free and in need to do wild things
They are advised to wear what they want show of ur beautiful assets do u think thats women liberation, its merely a way to degrade them but to keep them happy aswell why? because it gives them some power they feel they can attract different men it makes them feel good and that leads to alotta other **** for example the obvious illegitimate births ,infidelity and a corrupt society
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What part of that statement didnt you understand? The beating? If i have to explain to you issues about domestic violence and why women go into hiding because husbands threaten to kill the women, and police cant do anything about it as there arent any witnesses(verbal threats only),they will do something when they find her dead body, well whats the point..
And who said i agree with you..how about you just keep believing that the west give women their rights and respects them, i wouldnt want to shatter your perfect world..
Umm domestic violence can be reported...
Besides, in Shariah, women need x2 as many witnesses as opposed to men.
I never said the west respects said rights, I said they grant them. Which you agreed with.
Strange you should call my "world" a utopia when shariah is un-feasable on a bunch of different lvls. (Some of which Ive already covered)
You are such a funny guy. Go figure. If it was so perfect it would be all over the Isalmic world. The last true Islamic state was Afghanistan with those Taliban. Yeah, it was perfect eh!!!!!
Besides the UK is secular, our bloody history has taught us. Religion is like homosexuality. Do whatever you like in your own home, don't impose it on us thanks.
Thanks i have always be known for my funny comments
This just shows that even muslims are not perfect in getting it right a shame really!
It shows in the way britian lives that it is very secular! Wouldn't dare argue with ur there! All those teenage pregnancy! Single mothers! Troublesome youth! Very practical
Besides, in Shariah, women need x2 as many witnesses as opposed to men.
NO acording to the Sharia: Woman in some cases need x2 as many witnesses as opposed men, but in some other cases men need x2 as many witnesses as opposed woman! So dont make it sound as if woman acording to the Sharia are worth only half of what a man is, please spare us of your ignorancy!
The question is so vague. Do you intend to implement Sharia Law in a place which has practices antithetical to it? Allah intended the true Sharia Law, not what the Saudis do sometimes, to fit the whole world. Of course it will work AFTER the necessary changes are made. You can't drop gold in mud and expect it to shine.
The question is so vague. Do you intend to implement Sharia Law in a place which has practices antithetical to it? Allah intended the true Sharia Law, not what the Saudis do sometimes, to fit the whole world. Of course it will work AFTER the necessary changes are made. You can't drop gold in mud and expect it to shine.
Depends on how weak the mud is...
So is there not a single country which implements it? Is there any source available to make clear what it covers?
Ėk Gusā Alhu Mėrā
The One Lord, the Lord of the World, is my God Allah.
Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Mahraaj Ji!
Kal Meh Bėḏ Atharbaṇ Hū Nā Kẖuḏā Alhu Bẖa.
In the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, the Atharva Veda became prominent; Allah became the Name of God.
Anyone who wants sharia law in the United Kingdom should pack there bags are move out, its not a muslim country. Live in United Kingdom with there laws or move out!
Quassys post is eye bleedingly big, but eyebleedingly true.
I would point out to muslims outside the United Kingdom to ask themselves if a Very Very Senior imam was to publicly say "Adopting Christian or secular Laws in Iran is unavoidable" What would his status be the following week?
Involved in a debate on it?
Forced to Apologise?
Forced to resign?
Vanished in a dark prison?
Blown to peices or Shot?
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Quassys post is eye bleedingly big, but eyebleedingly true.
lol sorry - just had to get the point accross to people that it should NOT be introduced in the United Kingdom, and IF they got a problem with this country the doors are open leave.
lol sorry - just had to get the point accross to people that it should NOT be introduced in the United Kingdom, and IF they got a problem with this country the doors are open leave.
Yups, respect and props for that m8. It has caused a fantastic debate however here in UK.
I can myself see shaira being implemented however in this fashion. The people of the UK vote for a party who's manifesto is to bring in Shaira.
Likelyhood of that? Nil.
One other thing I disagree with Canterbury on though, He dosnt realise that Shaira is the actual law of God. You cant just choose the fluffy bits of this law or the bits that fit in with a culture. You either have it or you dont.
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