Danes arrest three in plot to kill Mohammed cartoonist (OP)
JAN M. OLSEN
Associated Press
February 13, 2008
COPENHAGEN -- Danish authorities arrested three people yesterday suspected of plotting a cartoonist's assassination for his depiction of the Prophet Mohammed wearing a bomb-shaped turban that enraged Muslims two years ago.
Three of Denmark's largest newspapers said they would reprint the cartoon today to show they would not be intimidated by fanatics. It was one of 12 Mohammed cartoons published in 2005 and then again in 2006 that led to protests in Muslim countries.
In the uproar that followed, Danes watched in disbelief as angry mobs burned their flag and attacked their country's embassies in Muslim countries including Syria, Iran and Lebanon. Danish products were boycotted in several Muslim countries.
Jyllands-Posten initially refused to apologize for the cartoons, which the newspaper said it published in reaction to perceived self-censorship among artists dealing with Islamic issues, but later said it regretted that the cartoons had offended Muslims.
Investigators said they foiled the assassination plot in its early stages in a predawn raid in the western Denmark city of Aarhus. The police intelligence agency, PET, said two Tunisians and a Danish citizen of Moroccan origin were arrested.
"The case shows that, unfortunately, there are in Denmark groups of extremists that do not accept and respect the basic principles on which the Danish democracy has been built," Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen said.
Yesterday's arrests were meant "to prevent a terror-related assassination of one of the cartoonists behind the cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed," PET chief Jakob Scharf said. Investigators believe the plot had not advanced far enough to try the suspects.
Chief Scharf said the 40-year-old Danish suspect faced a preliminary charge of violating a Danish terrorism law, but will likely be released after questioning. The two Tunisians will be expelled from Denmark, he said. He did not name the intended target, but Jyllands-Posten said it was the paper's cartoonist, Kurt Westergaard.
Mr. Westergaard, 73, drew one of the 12 Mohammed caricatures that were first published on Sept. 30, 2005, and then reprinted by other Western media early in 2006.
You asked how many muslims actually follow Muhammad's (pbuh) teachings. That's implying that hardly any of them do. Which means that the majority of people don't follow his teachings, and are violent, get angry easily, etc.
People who support violence obviously feel it's important to completely disregard everything the prophet (pbuh) taught in order to defend him. I'd say their priorities are mixed up. Would you defend someone by disobeying them, or by defending them in the way they taught?
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format_quote Originally Posted by barney
God created the universe, can crush mountains with less than a thought, can create infinity, can cause the sun to spin the other way or if he wanted to to vanish into oblivion. He is the very epitomy of omnipotence and nothing is impossible for him.
Why would he need three morons to go and kill someone who mocked him? Or his messenger?
When the children said to Elijah "Go up, thou bald head" did he not send bears to kill 43 of them?, When the Egyptians diddnt heed him, diddnt he kill all their firstborn? When Luts wife disobayed him, diddnt he turn her into Sodium Carbonate? When the entire world sinned, diddnt he kill everything on its surface except Nuah?
God, if you beleive your scripture, can top those he deems fit for topping with startling efficency. Put the knives and masks down please.
Anyway, just another proof in a long list, that God doesn't exist !
Im Always Right,Its Like,When Im Right,Im Right,And When Im Wrong,I Could've Been Right,So Im Still Right,'Cause I Could've Been Wrong!
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format_quote Originally Posted by crayon
There are 1.3 billion muslims in the world. Did we get 1.3 billion people burning flags, bombing embassies, plotting to kill cartoonists? No. Just because a few ignorant people do something stupid, they are not a proper representation of the group of people they belong to.
But sad to say, a few 'ignorants' like these are very active on this board.
Sad statistic
Peace
Im Always Right,Its Like,When Im Right,Im Right,And When Im Wrong,I Could've Been Right,So Im Still Right,'Cause I Could've Been Wrong!
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format_quote Originally Posted by guyabano
But sad to say, a few 'ignorants' like these are very active on this board.
Sad statistic
Peace
compare us to the british public after dr rwilliams made that remark about sharia law,they say we overreacted with the cartoons, but i felt sorry for that man because he was branded a fool and a traitor my the media and every1 when he actually said mild comments that showed support to the muslims the dumb british then misinterpetd him and they all went bananas young and old.
looks like we both muslims and non muslim reacted crazily but we reacted to something that made fun of us and something that concerned us
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Yes its abit of a shame for men in their latter stages of life to sit down get some crayons like we used to do in nursery and start drawing pointless cartoons,if they felt hatred towards a religion of peace then why didnt they just come out and say so like real men.
The western people always try to disemble islam from the time of the prophet whether it was applying physcoligical tactics or a more severe way,so what makes them think that they can abolish islam when it still stands after 1400 years
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format_quote Originally Posted by Ahmedjunior
Yes its abit of a shame for men in their latter stages of life to sit down get some crayons like we used to do in nursery and start drawing pointless cartoons,
Is only old guys? Is there more shame in cartoons than killing people because you don't like what they say?
if they felt hatred towards a religion of peace
Is it the "religion of peace" or it's members who embrace terrorism that they hate?
then why didnt they just come out and say so like real men.
I think they did. I guess you just need "reading between the lines" lessons.
The western people always try to disemble islam from the time of the prophet
I don't think they cared too much till they started invading the West.
whether it was applying physcoligical tactics or a more severe way,so what makes them think that they can abolish islam when it still stands after 1400 years
Do you really think it is only because you think Jesus was a prophet?
Do you think 9/11 and 7/7 happened because they knew the cartoons would be printed?
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format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum
Do you think 9/11 and 7/7 happened because they knew the cartoons would be printed?
Im going to address you in the most respectful way my brother real muslims dont cause hatred but the minority that do have wronged themselves and satan has decieved them just like he did to you and all those with black hearts,and yes maybe i need to read between the lines i am in a learning process everyday so thank you for the suggestion
Think of a baby who has just opened its eyes to the world and a man who is about to breathe his last. Both had no influence on their individual birth or death whatsoever. Only God possesses the power to inspire the breath of life or to take it away.
islam teaches us that if our land is occupied and we are terrorized we have to resist and fight back thats all islam teaches it doesnt say go bomb the western countries but instead welcome them and respect them if they respect you
david ben-gurion
“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”
“We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.”
Arabs and muslims are considered dirty it puzzles them that how could their religion have lasted all this time its simple read between the lines, it is the religion of truth and peace
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format_quote Originally Posted by Ahmedjunior
Im going to address you in the most respectful way my brother real muslims dont cause hatred but the minority that do have wronged themselves and satan has decieved them just like he did to you and all those with black hearts,and yes maybe i need to read between the lines i am in a learning process everyday so thank you for the suggestion
Do you think those that died cared it they were "Real Muslims"? What ever that is.
Think of a baby who has just opened its eyes to the world and a man who is about to breathe his last. Both had no influence on their individual birth or death whatsoever. Only God possesses the power to inspire the breath of life or to take it away.
What? I don't have a clue what you are trying to communicate.
islam teaches us that if our land is occupied and we are terrorized we have to resist and fight back thats all islam teaches it doesnt say go bomb the western countries but instead welcome them and respect them if they respect you
Do you assume I condemn Islam? If so, you are wrong. I condemn anyone who uses religion to validate there hate and Intolerance.
david ben-gurion
“If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?”
“We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.”
Arabs and muslims are considered dirty it puzzles them that how could their religion have lasted all this time its simple read between the lines, it is the religion of truth and peace
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format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum
I, as most, don't care what Islam says.
We care what Muslims do.
And some of them like to fly planes into buildings for god.
I don't approve of the cartoons.
But someone who does not respect what you respect and makes it known deserves your disrespect, nothing more.
To do them physical harm is nothing but hate and Intolerance.
And to do it in the name of religion/god tells us about the religion/god they believe in.
thats fine my brother these are ur views and u are entightled to them but i believe that 9/11 was not orchestrated by fake muslims alone they had help from an insider or traitors to u and the US public these are my thoughts,
i wish i could get the message to you but i am happy because i did my duty, i dont think a 60 plus year old would listen to a boy 3 times younger with 3 times less experience in this world but the knowledge of the truth doesnt filter the old from the young but brings them toghether in 1 unit
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format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum
I guess one is as good/bad as the other.
The cartoonist didn't really just depict Prophet Muhammad(pbuh). The cartoons are not as innocent as your picture depicts. They are trying to portray the Prophet as a terrorist and womanizer, God forbid. I wouldn't mind if they tried to depict any random Muslim or "The Muslim" like that. I think you will know where I stand if you read my earlier post to this thread. It's on the first page. Anyway, have you watched the award-winning documentary film called Occupation 101. http://www.occupation101.com/
You would have to buy it. But thanks to some people, now you can also find it on Youtube.
Maybe this part would address why there is hatred towards Jews. I am not condoning the hatred but you would do a great injustice to yourself if you don't know the cause. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfeO-irQQdY&NR=1
Last edited by Roasted Cashew; 02-17-2008 at 04:34 AM.
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Being a Muslim myself, I am ashamed that some Muslims would do such a thing and take law into their own hands. This is indeed the work of WEAK Muslims who get angry easily.
You are wrong the hadeeth you quote are also out of context. There are many sahabi R.A. who killed people that insulted Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. Those three men were doing nothing but following the foot steps of the Sahabi R.A. Also you are claiming that the Sahabi R.A. were "WEAK". A person that gets angry because someone insults him is indeed weak. But a person who comes out to defend the honor of Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. is not only on the true path but also a lion of islam. We muslims after the cartoons came out on the streets and protested like monkeys. We destoryed muslim businesses in Pakistan, Syria, Lebanon etc. Many muslims were killed in these protest. At the end of the day all we did was advertise the cartoons. We are the ones responsible for giving Salman Rasheedi lanat upon him so much fame. What we did was not from the Sunnah either. Sahabi R.A. when heard someone insulted the prophet searched for the person day and night and killed him. "By Allah! We Will not survive if he survives!" He: is refering to a person that insulted the Prophet S.A.W.
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format_quote Originally Posted by abdurrahman96
You are wrong the hadeeth you quote are also out of context. There are many sahabi R.A. who killed people that insulted Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. Those three men were doing nothing but following the foot steps of the Sahabi R.A. Also you are claiming that the Sahabi R.A. were "WEAK". A person that gets angry because someone insults him is indeed weak. But a person who comes out to defend the honor of Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. is not only on the true path but also a lion of islam. We muslims after the cartoons came out on the streets and protested like monkeys. We destoryed muslim businesses in Pakistan, Syria, Lebanon etc. Many muslims were killed in these protest. At the end of the day all we did was advertise the cartoons. We are the ones responsible for giving Salman Rasheedi lanat upon him so much fame. What we did was not from the Sunnah either. Sahabi R.A. when heard someone insulted the prophet searched for the person day and night and killed him. "By Allah! We Will not survive if he survives!" He: is refering to a person that insulted the Prophet S.A.W.
It is thoughts like this that lead many to question just how "peaceful" Islam really is.... Perhaps I should say "Muslims", but that is sorting of splitting hairs. Not that I believe the majority of Muslims hold this sort of opinion...but I hear this sort of justification for murder way too often to find any comfort in assurances of the contrary.
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is."
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format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi
It is thoughts like this that lead many to question just how "peaceful" Islam really is.... Perhaps I should say "Muslims", but that is sorting of splitting hairs. Not that I believe the majority of Muslims hold this sort of opinion...but I hear this sort of justification for murder way too often to find any comfort in assurances of the contrary.
As far as my understanding of Islam goes I have read some hadeeth that suggest a person who insults the Prophet S.A.W. should be killed. But then again some muslims say only under islamic state. As far as Islam being a religion of peace. Islam is a religion of peace a non muslim living under islamic law has a very peaceful life. Ofcourse, The freedom of speech is limited by your standards. A religion can maintain peace while implementing laws. If a religion avoids all laws that dont seem peaceful. Then rapist, murderist etc.. would be free to do whatever they want without getting punished. Insulting the prophet S.A.W is bigger crime then all mentioned above.
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format_quote Originally Posted by Ahmedjunior
thats fine my brother these are ur views and u are entightled to them but i believe that 9/11 was not orchestrated by fake muslims alone they had help from an insider or traitors to u and the US public these are my thoughts,
i wish i could get the message to you but i am happy because i did my duty, i dont think a 60 plus year old would listen to a boy 3 times younger with 3 times less experience in this world but the knowledge of the truth doesnt filter the old from the young but brings them toghether in 1 unit
peace and thank you
Oh dear. Not another one. Still, we are making progress. At least the Jews aren't involved this time.
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format_quote Originally Posted by abdurrahman96
You are wrong the hadeeth you quote are also out of context. There are many sahabi R.A. who killed people that insulted Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. Those three men were doing nothing but following the foot steps of the Sahabi R.A. Also you are claiming that the Sahabi R.A. were "WEAK". A person that gets angry because someone insults him is indeed weak. But a person who comes out to defend the honor of Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. is not only on the true path but also a lion of islam. We muslims after the cartoons came out on the streets and protested like monkeys. We destoryed muslim businesses in Pakistan, Syria, Lebanon etc. Many muslims were killed in these protest. At the end of the day all we did was advertise the cartoons. We are the ones responsible for giving Salman Rasheedi lanat upon him so much fame. What we did was not from the Sunnah either. Sahabi R.A. when heard someone insulted the prophet searched for the person day and night and killed him. "By Allah! We Will not survive if he survives!" He: is refering to a person that insulted the Prophet S.A.W.
Brother, would you bother to prove it. Any Hadiths? And if you say it's out of context than pls provide the context. Otherwise, this is baseless rambling.
The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.
- Stephen Hawking
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format_quote Originally Posted by wilberhum
I guess Ahmedjunior thinks the only bad thing OBL has done is lie.
Denial is not just a place in Egypt,
but I understand it is a very comfortable place to live.
You helped me out. Help him too. Anyway, Wilberhum. Did you look up the documentary and the link I gave you. Pls don't disappoint me with saying " I don't Youtube". Please!
The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.
- Stephen Hawking
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format_quote Originally Posted by hmmm5
You helped me out. Help him too. Anyway, Wilberhum. Did you look up the documentary and the link I gave you. Pls don't disappoint me with saying " I don't Youtube". Please!
Sorry, I don't do youtube. Any idiot can put anything up.
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