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    Gunman kills 5 and then himself at Illinois college (OP)


    By John Gress

    DEKALB, Illinois (Reuters) - A black-clad man fired into a lecture hall packed with students at an Illinois university on Thursday, killing five people and wounding 18 before shooting himself dead, police and college officials said.

    The gunman, who police said had a shotgun and two handguns, stepped onto the lecturer's stage near the end of a mid-afternoon geology class at Northern Illinois University and began shooting down the room, sending terrified and bleeding students fleeing, witnesses said. He then shot himself on the same stage.

    Police on the 25,000-student college 65 miles west of Chicago said the gunman was a former student but they did not publicly identify him and said they did not know the motive in the latest in a series of shootings at U.S. colleges and high schools.

    University President John Peters said there had been a "very brief rapid fire assault that ended with the gunman taking his own life." He said those killed by the gunman were all students -- four women and one man -- and that 4 were in critical condition in hospitals. The instructor teaching the class survived, he said.

    "I ducked behind the seats and ran out the door," student Zach Seward told the local Daily Chronicle newspaper.

    "As I was running, I just kept waiting for something to hit me in the back. I didn't know where to run, tried to decide where it's safe to be, and there isn't anywhere safe."

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    Peters said the gunman was a sociology major who last attended classes as a graduate student in the spring of 2007 and who may have since enrolled at a different college. He said he had no police record or previous contact with police.

    One student told local radio that roughly 140 students were in the classroom when the man opened fire. Ambulances swarmed onto the snow-covered campus and classes were canceled for the rest of the day and Thursday.

    "Some girl got hit in the eye, a guy got hit in the leg," George Gaynor, a student who was in the hall told the Northern Star, the student newspaper on the campus.

    Kristina Balluff, a student, said the gunman was dressed in black pants and had fired randomly from the raised classroom stage.

    "I looked at this girl next to me and actually said, 'is this real?' I think the professor ... ducked out of the way."

    Mass shootings are not rare in the United States, where gun control is less strict than in many countries and where the gun-ownership lobby is politically influential.

    A university in Blacksburg, Virginia, Virginia Tech, became the site of the deadliest shooting rampage in modern U.S. history in April last year when a gunman killed 32 people and himself.

    Last week, a nursing student shot dead two women and killed herself in front of horrified classmates at a college in Louisiana.

    In December, a threat was found scrawled on a wall at Northern Illinois University referring to the Virginia shooting and threatening similar violence, but officials said they had no reason to link that to Wednesday's incident.

    (Reporting by Andrew Stern and Michael Conlon; Editing by Stuart Grudgings)

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    Re: Gunman kills 5 and then himself at Illinois college

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    Re: Gunman kills 5 and then himself at Illinois college

    I await the inevitable comments along the lines of 'It's all video games/movies/rap music's fault!'

    Hmm... If that were the case, surely there'd be an absolute deluge of school shootings in, say, the UK. Alas, all our troublesome teens seem to do is stab each other and kick grown men to death. The teens also tend to be decidedly from the 'chav' end of the spectrum, rather than the 'disturbed, psychotic genius' end.

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    Re: Gunman kills 5 and then himself at Illinois college

    format_quote Originally Posted by Woodrow View Post
    Right now for the average citizen in New York, California, Indiana, Illinois (the states with the strictest gun laws) it is much easier to buy an illegal unregistered machine gun, then to buy a legal hunting rifle.
    Thats because they were given too freely in the past..... how can a gun be legal in the first place, and later make it harder to purchase them.... its like trying to pick up spilt milk...whats done is done.
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    Re: Gunman kills 5 and then himself at Illinois college

    format_quote Originally Posted by Ebtisweetsam View Post
    Thats because they were given too freely in the past..... how can a gun be legal in the first place, and later make it harder to purchase them.... its like trying to pick up spilt milk...whats done is done.
    That is true. The only thing to do when that happens is to stress gun safety and responsibility. There is no going back and undoing the ownership or amount of guns that are in the public domain. What now needs to be done is find ways to live with the situation. Good or bad, guns will always be here, either legal or illegal.

    When I was a kid gun ownership was more open, it was a fact of life, most homes had a gun. Yet, these trageies did not happen. The difference being we were taught a gun was a tool and not a toy. We did not see a gun as a means of killing people, they were to protect livestock and to provide food.

    A car can be just as dangerous as a gun if misused. The difference being people are being educated on the use of cars as everybody seems to have one. We need to return to the same attitude with guns.

    No matter how many laws are passed guns will still be available. They are very simple devices and can easily be made at home by a person with very limited knowledge. I made my first gun before I was under 10 years old. It was a simple hand cannon. the barrel was bamboo wrapped with wire, for gun powder I used match heads and for projectiles I used fishing sinkers. I had to light it with a match to fire it, but it worked. Now if a 10 year old can do that, a person with a little machinery skills can make guns.

    We do not need more laws, we need more education.
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