× Register Login What's New! Contact us
Results 1 to 4 of 4 visibility 1423

Iran's proud but discreet Jews

  1. #1
    guyabano's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    IB Oldtimer
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    1,076
    Threads
    102
    Rep Power
    114
    Rep Ratio
    32
    Likes Ratio
    1

    Iran's proud but discreet Jews

    Report bad ads?

    Although Iran and Israel are bitter enemies, few know that Iran is home to the largest number of Jews anywhere in the Middle East outside Israel.
    About 25,000 Jews live in Iran and most are determined to remain no matter what the pressures - as proud of their Iranian culture as of their Jewish roots.


    It is dawn in the Yusufabad synagogue in Tehran and Iranian Jews bring out the Torah and read the ancient text before making their way to work.
    It is not a sight you would expect in a revolutionary Islamic state, but there are synagogues dotted all over Iran where Jews discreetly practise their religion.
    "Because of our long history here we are tolerated," says Jewish community leader Unees Hammami, who organised the prayers.
    He says the father of Iran's revolution, Imam Khomeini, recognised Jews as a religious minority that should be protected.
    As a result Jews have one representative in the Iranian parliament.
    "Imam Khomeini made a distinction between Jews and Zionists and he supported us," says Mr Hammami.

    'Anti-Jewish feeling'

    In the Yusufabad synagogue the announcements are made in Persian - most Iranian Jews don't really speak Hebrew well.
    Jews have lived in Persia for nearly 3,000 years - the descendants of slaves from Babylon saved by Cyrus the Great.
    Over the centuries there have been sporadic purges, pogroms and forced conversions to Islam as well as periods of peaceful co-existence.
    These days anti-Jewish feeling is periodically stirred by the media.
    Mr Hammami says state-run television confuses Zionism and Judaism so that "ordinary people may think that whatever the Israelis do is supported by all Jews".
    During the fighting in Lebanon a hardline weekly newspaper, Yalesarat, published two photographs of synagogues on its front page full of people waving Israeli flags celebrating Israeli independence day.
    The paper falsely said the synagogues were in Iran - even describing one as the Yusufabad synagogue in Tehran and locating another in Shiraz.
    "This provoked a number of opportunists in Shiraz," explains Iran's Jewish MP, Maurice Mohtamed, "and there was an assault on two synagogues."
    Mr Mohtamed says the incident was defused by the Iranian security forces, who explained to people that the news was not true.
    And with the coming to power of an ultra-conservative like President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, there has been increased concern internationally about the fate of Iranian Jews.

    'Holocaust denial'

    Mr Ahmedinejad has repeatedly used rabid anti-Israeli rhetoric - slogans like "wipe Israel off the map" - and most controversially he has questioned the number killed in the Holocaust during World War II.
    Mr Mohtamed has been outspoken in his condemnation of the president's views - in itself a sign that there is some space for Jews in Iran to express themselves.
    "It's very regrettable to see a horrible tragedy so far reaching as the Holocaust being denied ... it was a very big insult to Jews all around the world," says Mr Mohtamed, who has also strongly condemned the exhibition of cartoons about the Holocaust organised by an Iranian newspaper owned by the Tehran municipality.
    Despite the offence Mahmoud Ahmedinejad has caused to Jews around the world, his office recently donated money for Tehran's Jewish hospital.
    It is one of only four Jewish charity hospitals worldwide and is funded with money from the Jewish diaspora - something remarkable in Iran where even local aid organisations have difficulty receiving funds from abroad for fear of being accused of being foreign agents.
    Most of the patients and staff are Muslim these days, but director Ciamak Morsathegh is Jewish.
    "Anti-Semitism is not an eastern phenomenon, it's not an Islamic or Iranian phenomenon - anti-Semitism is a European phenomenon," he says, arguing that Jews in Iran even in their worst days never suffered as much as they did in Europe.

    Israeli family ties

    But there are legal problems for Jews in Iran - if one member of a Jewish family converts to Islam he can inherit all the family's property.
    Jews cannot become army officers and the headmasters of the Jewish schools in Tehran are all Muslim, though there is no law that says this should be so.
    But their greatest vulnerability is their links to Israel - where many Jews have relatives.
    Seven years ago a group of Jews in the southern city of Shiraz was accused of spying for Israel - eventually they were all released. But today many Iranian Jews travel to and from Iran's enemy Israel.
    In one of Tehran's six remaining kosher butcher's shops, everyone has relatives in Israel.
    In between chopping up meat, butcher Hersel Gabriel tells me how he expected problems when he came back from Israel, but in fact the immigration officer didn't say anything to him.
    "Whatever they say abroad is lies - we are comfortable in Iran - if you're not political and don't bother them then they won't bother you," he explains.
    His customer, middle aged housewife Giti agrees, saying she can easily talk to her two sons in Tel Aviv on the telephone and visit them.
    "It's not a problem coming and going; I went to Israel once through Turkey and once through Cyprus and it was not problem at all," she says.
    Gone are the early days of the Iranian revolution when Jews - and many Muslims - found it hard to get passports to travel abroad.
    "In the last five years the government has allowed Iranian Jews to go to Israel freely, meet their families and when they come back they face no problems," says Mr Mohtamed. He says there is also a way for Iranian Jews who emigrated to Israel decades ago to return to Iran and see their families.
    "They can now go to the Iranian consul general in Istanbul and get Iranian identity documents and freely come to Iran," he says. The exodus of Jews from Iran seems to have slowed down - the first wave was in the 1950s and the second was in the wake of the Iranian Revolution.
    Those Jews who remain in Iran seem to have made a conscious decision to stay put. "We are Iranian and we have been living in Iran for more than 3,000 years," says the Jewish hospital director Ciamak Morsathegh.
    "I am not going to leave - I will stay in Iran under any conditions," he declares.

    Source
    Iran's proud but discreet Jews

    Im Always Right,Its Like,When Im Right,Im Right,And When Im Wrong,I Could've Been Right,So Im Still Right,'Cause I Could've Been Wrong!
    chat Quote

  2. Report bad ads?
  3. #2
    Ninth_Scribe's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    IB Oldtimer
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    = Time & Space
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    1,141
    Threads
    12
    Rep Power
    114
    Rep Ratio
    24
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: Iran's proud but discreet Jews

    There are Jews all over the world and they flourish every where but in the state that is called Israel. I don't know what all the fuss is about. Not all Jews believe in that state and are very happy where they are. Sure they get ribbings. Who doesn't? In America they're called penny-pinchers - but this intended insult comes from the very same people who complain about our own government's excessive spending, lol. Jews, for the most part, are very resourceful and can turn a ghetto into a garden in a single generation!

    Like the Muslims always say: You can't judge a whole people by the actions of some. I would also add, it's not wise to judge anyone without fully hearing them out.

    The Ninth Scribe
    Iran's proud but discreet Jews

    wwwislamicboardcom - Iran's proud but discreet Jews
    chat Quote

  4. #3
    Solider313's Avatar Limited Member
    brightness_1
    Limited Member
    star_rate
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Religion
    Unspecified
    Posts
    4
    Threads
    3
    Rep Power
    0
    Rep Ratio
    2
    Likes Ratio
    0

    Re: Iran's proud but discreet Jews

    You can even see video of them in Iran:

    Media Tags are no longer supported
    Last edited by Woodrow; 04-02-2008 at 08:20 AM. Reason: Changed url to media link
    chat Quote

  5. #4
    Malaikah's Avatar Full Member
    brightness_1
    IB Oldskool
    star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate star_rate
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Swimming with thermus aquaticus in Yellowstone National Park
    Gender
    Female
    Religion
    Islam
    Posts
    6,351
    Threads
    101
    Rep Power
    134
    Rep Ratio
    44
    Likes Ratio
    1

    Re: Iran's proud but discreet Jews



    Good to actually see a positive story about Iran for once.
    Last edited by Malaikah; 04-02-2008 at 10:05 AM.
    Iran's proud but discreet Jews

    wwwislamicboardcom - Iran's proud but discreet Jews
    chat Quote


  6. Hide
Hey there! Iran's proud but discreet Jews Looks like you're enjoying the discussion, but you're not signed up for an account.

When you create an account, we remember exactly what you've read, so you always come right back where you left off. You also get notifications, here and via email, whenever new posts are made. And you can like posts and share your thoughts. Iran's proud but discreet Jews
Sign Up

Similar Threads

  1. One of the secrets of success: Be discreet
    By strivingobserver98 in forum Business & Islamic finance
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 10-03-2015, 06:20 PM
  2. Replies: 2
    Last Post: 04-17-2011, 07:27 AM
  3. ~ Iran's Jews: Our Identity Not For Sale ~
    By Zman in forum World Affairs
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 07-14-2007, 03:44 PM
  4. Iran's proud but discreet Jews
    By Pure in forum General
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: 04-09-2007, 02:17 AM
  5. Christians and Jews in Iran; by Kevin Sites
    By Kidman in forum World Affairs
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 10-02-2006, 09:22 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
create