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    just when you think things can't get worse, more disgusting, more inane, more obscene.... they do.

    this is just the first few paragraphs. check the link if you want the full story and have the stomach for it.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1811

    Greetings from Guantanamo Bay ... and the sickest souvenir shop in the world
    By ANGELA LEVIN - More by this author »

    Last updated at 00:06am on 4th May 2008



    Mockery: A child's T-shirt proclaiming the camp a tourist spot

    The sands are white, the sea laps gently and crowds of bronzed Americans laze in the Caribbean sunshine.

    They have a cinema, a golf course and, naturally, a gift shop stocked with mugs, jaunty T-shirts and racks of postcards showing perfect sunsets and bright green iguanas.


    Only the barbed wire decoration, a recurring motif, hints at anything wrong.


    Welcome to "Taliban Towers" at Guantanamo Bay, the most ghoulishly distasteful tourist destination on the planet.


    As these astonishing mementoes show, the US authorities are promoting the world's most notorious prison camp as a cheap hideaway for American sunseekers – a revelation that has drawn international anger and condemnation.


    Just yards from the shelves of specially branded mugs and cuddly toys, nearly 300 "enemy combatants" lie sweltering in a waking nightmare.


    It is six years since foreign prisoners, many captured in Afghanistan, were first taken to this US-occupied corner of Cuba. Yet even now, no charges have been brought against them.


    While the detainees lie incarcerated, visitors can windsurf, take boat trips and go fishing for grouper, tuna, red snapper and swordfish.


    The United States' 1.5million service personnel and Guantanamo's 3,000 construction workers are eligible to visit the "resort", which boasts a McDonald's, KFC and a bowling alley.


    They even have a Wal-Mart supermarket.
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    Re: Greeting from Guantanamo Bay - Disgusting

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    off topic, but snakelegs IS a sister in humanity...

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    Re: Greeting from Guantanamo Bay - Disgusting

    yup i am indeed a sister.
    i just thought that this was in disgustingly poor taste. there is nothing humorous about guatanamo and it is an ugly stain on my country that will not go away.
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    there is nothing humorous about guatanamo and it is an ugly stain on my country that will not go away.
    inshallah it does
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    yup i am indeed a sister.
    *shocked* i always thought u wer a brother
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    format_quote Originally Posted by muslimah421 View Post
    inshallah it does
    Ameen



    *shocked* i always thought u wer a brother

    LOOL same here!!

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    Re: Greeting from Guantanamo Bay - Disgusting

    I found out recently "it's" a sister hahah No offense snakelegs xD
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    Re: Greeting from Guantanamo Bay - Disgusting

    I think this article did a good job of confusing people, which is what it was intended to do. There is no attempt to turn Gitmo into a tourist destination. It was shirts designed by the people who live and work there as sort of an inside joke.
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    Re: Greeting from Guantanamo Bay - Disgusting

    format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi View Post
    It was shirts designed by the people who live and work there as sort of an inside joke.
    Perhaps I am missing something, but where's the joke in all this?

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    ^^Thats the problem. There is no joke about it. We aren't the confused ones. That's the problem nowadays. Everything is a joke unfortunately.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Jazzy View Post
    ^^Thats the problem. There is no joke about it. We aren't the confused ones. That's the problem nowadays. Everything is a joke unfortunately.
    For those who live and work at Gitmo it is a joke. You don't live there and you don't work there, and you are coming at the issue from the standpoint of "evil America and their gulag in Cuba". These are simply workers and military personel who have to work there and designed these shirts as an inside joke. You may not get the joke...but quite frankly, you don't have to get the joke. They do.
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    Way to put words in my mouth. I never said any of that, so perhaps you need to rethink your standpoint. Or perhaps lose the preconcieved notions. It's no joke when any human being is being mistreated for all these years. I highly doubt you would like it if I made souvenirs or an inside joke for any American victims that have died anywhere? This just proves how much humanity is left. No suffering of human life is a "joke." It's only a joke for people who don't give a crud.
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    Re: Greeting from Guantanamo Bay - Disgusting

    format_quote Originally Posted by Jazzy View Post
    Way to put words in my mouth. I never said any of that, so perhaps you need to rethink your standpoint. Or perhaps lose the preconcieved notions. It's no joke when any human being is being mistreated for all these years. I highly doubt you would like it if I made souvenirs or an inside joke for any American victims that have died anywhere? This just proves how much humanity is left. No suffering of human life is a "joke." It's only a joke for people who don't give a crud.
    You just reinforced what you just stated was my preconcieved notions. These shirts aren't about "victims" or glorifying anything. They aren't meant to be political. As I stated earlier, they are in the same vein as "I survived Hurricane Katrina" shirts. I doubt many of the workers there, either civilian or military, actually want to be there. So for the sake of humor, they designed sarcastic shirts as a parody of their situation.

    No tourists are coming...the Gitmo detainees still get three hots a day that dont contain un-Islamic ingredients...the Red Cross is still given access. Nothing has changed.
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    Re: Greeting from Guantanamo Bay - Disgusting

    Where did I reinforce anything I'm saying it's not a joke, your saying it is. The only joke I see out of it is that whats going on there is stupid and uncalled for. But either way, why would you make souvenirs? For what political purpose? Did you ask them? Imagine having a getaway over there near a cell full of people. That's really silly.
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    Re: Greeting from Guantanamo Bay - Disgusting

    format_quote Originally Posted by Jazzy View Post
    Where did I reinforce anything I'm saying it's not a joke, your saying it is. The only joke I see out of it is that whats going on there is stupid and uncalled for. But either way, why would you make souvenirs? For what political purpose? Did you ask them? Imagine having a getaway over there near a cell full of people. That's really silly.
    You are reinforcing what I said because you keep forcing politics into the equation, as I said you were. These shirts aren't meant to make a political statement. It isn't glorifying Gitmo or the Taliban. They are JOKE shirts designed for those who WORK and LIVE there and don't particularly like it. I'm sure the detainees don't like living there either...perhaps they could get the joke you don't seem to get.
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    Re: Greeting from Guantanamo Bay - Disgusting

    format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi View Post
    For those who live and work at Gitmo it is a joke. You don't live there and you don't work there, and you are coming at the issue from the standpoint of "evil America and their gulag in Cuba". These are simply workers and military personel who have to work there and designed these shirts as an inside joke. You may not get the joke...but quite frankly, you don't have to get the joke. They do.
    Please tell me what you think could possibly be funny about the situation in Guantanamo, then?

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    Re: Greeting from Guantanamo Bay - Disgusting

    format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi View Post
    You are reinforcing what I said because you keep forcing politics into the equation, as I said you were. These shirts aren't meant to make a political statement. It isn't glorifying Gitmo or the Taliban. They are JOKE shirts designed for those who WORK and LIVE there and don't particularly like it. I'm sure the detainees don't like living there either...perhaps they could get the joke you don't seem to get.
    "Another praises "the proud protectors of freedom"."

    Not a political statement?

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Faizah View Post
    Please tell me what you think could possibly be funny about the situation in Guantanamo, then?
    It isn't funny! That is why the shirts were made in the first place! Haven't you ever heard of a sarcastic sense of humor?

    Okay....I walked outside my house and as soon as I opened the door a giant elephant fell from the sky and landed on my house..leaving nothing but rubble. I have to live there anyway...so I walk down to the T-shirt printing store and create my own shirt. The graphic reads: "Welcome to the Keltoi Hilton"...showing a pile of rubble with a dead elephant on top of it. The exact same thought process is at play here with the Gitmo T-shirts. Is it literally funny to me that my house was destroyed(or that those in question work at Gitmo) NO! Its called a sarcastic sense of humor...or dark humor if you prefer.
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    Re: Greeting from Guantanamo Bay - Disgusting

    format_quote Originally Posted by Faizah View Post
    "Another praises "the proud protectors of freedom"."

    Not a political statement?
    I'm sure this gift shop has a vast array of shirts. Some are in the motif of the sarcastic shirts we have been talking about, and some are simply related to being part of the task force. Soldiers buy these things and either send them home or take them home. It is the exact same situation in South Korea, Germany, etc.
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    Re: Greeting from Guantanamo Bay - Disgusting

    format_quote Originally Posted by Keltoi View Post
    It isn't funny! That is why the shirts were made in the first place! Haven't you ever heard of a sarcastic sense of humor?

    Okay....I walked outside my house and as soon as I opened the door a giant elephant fell from the sky and landed on my house..leaving nothing but rubble. I have to live there anyway...so I walk down to the T-shirt printing store and create my own shirt. The graphic reads: "Welcome to the Keltoi Hilton"...showing a pile of rubble with a dead elephant on top of it. The exact same thought process is at play here with the Gitmo T-shirts. Is it literally funny to me that my house was destroyed(or that those in question work at Gitmo) NO! Its called a sarcastic sense of humor...or dark humor if you prefer.
    Yeah, I suppose that is pretty funny. You're the victim, so it's your right to poke fun at your inconvenience. However, it wouldn't be so funny if I bulldozed your house and then started distributing T-Shirts, as a joke or otherwise. See the difference?

    I don't really see how you can sweep this under the carpet, and just refer to it as 'dark humour'. It's clearly quite disgusting. People are being tortured, and they've treating the place like a holiday resort. Despite the fact that only millitary personnel are 'holidaying' there, does it make a difference? It's the attitude that needs to be addressed. And to put it crudely, their attitude stinks.

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    Re: Greeting from Guantanamo Bay - Disgusting

    format_quote Originally Posted by Faizah View Post
    Yeah, I suppose that is pretty funny. You're the victim, so it's your right to poke fun at your inconvenience. However, it wouldn't be so funny if I bulldozed your house and then started distributing T-Shirts, as a joke or otherwise. See the difference?

    I don't really see how you can sweep this under the carpet, and just refer to it as 'dark humour'. It's clearly quite disgusting. People are being tortured, and they've treating the place like a holiday resort. Despite the fact that only millitary personnel are 'holidaying' there, does it make a difference? It's the attitude that needs to be addressed. And to put it crudely, their attitude stinks.
    What attitude? Most of the people that work there or are stationed there will never see a detainee. This gift shop is simply about the military experience. If you want to protest keeping detainees without charges..fine. However, whining over a military giftshop is bordering on ludicrous.
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    Re: Greeting from Guantanamo Bay - Disgusting

    Just because it's "military personnel" doing it, doesn't dismiss the fact that it's insanely stupid and pointless. Why would you even bother doing it. If it was an ordinary giftshop, it wouldn't have been a problem. But a joke or even a giftshop about anything like this is what you call "ludicrous." It's low and pathetic.
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