Here is a thought, how about we as a Ummah do something good for a change? :-P Hate to admit it, but there aren't many good things happening around the world these days, as i am sure you are all aware.
Having said that, does that justify the wrong actions of millions of muslims? Are we as muslims, encouraged by the Quran kareem, by the Sunnah of the Prophet (saw) to spread lies? The obvious answer is No. Am i correct, or not?
So why is it that every year, 1 or 2 rumors are recycled? For example.... "Coke is haram because it contains alcohol" "Coke is haram because it contains pig" "Coke is haram because it contains cocain".."If you turn the Logo "Coke cola" around it says "La mecca la muhammed" which means "NO MECCA NO MUHAMMED"...
I am SURE you have all come across 1 of those atleast once or twice, eh?
Its nothing to smile about, or laugh about. As i've heard Shaykh Hamza Yusuf quote in 1 of his lectures "It is the worst of things that make us laugh"
If someone says "Coke is bad for your health", i would nominate that person for an award. But those out there who continue to spread such rumors need to think before they forward emails, or post in forums.
People think "I will be doing the ummah a favour by spreading this information, i will be doing my duty as a muslim". I am sure those brothers and sisters are being SINCERE when spreading such emails. But being sincere isnt everything at times, especially in this time and age when you have SHAYKH GOOGLE. By punching in keywords such as "Coke Haram Pork" "Coke Haram Alcohol" you can find refutations of such claims all over the internet.
Coke isn't the only victim, there is a rumor out there that 'Pepsi' means "Pay every penny (to the) State (of) Israel"
How pathetic is that?
What i've noticed recently is that those very muslims who have told me recently that "Coke and pepsi are haram" are drinking 'Fanta' 'L&P' 'Sprite', which is all made by the same company. How is that for blindly following a propoganda?
There are those out there who will spread such emails and end it with a 'Cheering support for Mecca Cola'. How different is 'Mecca Cola' to all those other Drinks? If you drop a nail in a glass of coke, it will rust, Right? If you drop a nail in a glass of mecca cola, will it turn to gold? No it will not. You need to get your head checked if your answer was "Yes" to that question... :-P
On the other hand, if they say "Buy Mecca Cola instead of coke because Coke donates money to the illegal state of israel", i won't argue with them. But to SPREAD the TRUTH by slapping a LIE on top of the TRUTH does the truth no Justice. Remember that next time, Insha'allah.
Do not get me wrong brothers and sisters, this post is not in any support of Coke or Pepsi or any other american Product. Before any1 starts emailing me hate mails calling me a "Zionist", please think twice. lol. My point is pretty clear.
We, as an Ummah, cannot afford to sit around toasting marshmallow over ashs. Stop posting rubbish in forums. Stop emailing such rubbish to others. Stop promising them that if they pass the message on to "20 people, Allah will answer your prayers in 2 hours", while you may think you are doing your bit for the ummah, you are stepping into a "NO ENTRY" zone, which is Allahs Qa'da and Qa'dar, which Allah (swt) has knowledge over, not you or I.
Do something more useful with your time. Do something which will benefit the Ummah. Go plant some trees. Help your parents around the house. Go clean the local mosque - clean the windows, brush the carpark with a broom, etc.
There is so much to be done. So lets stop wasting our energy on spreading useless information which will benefit no-one.
"Unity based on falsehood" is a message that our Prophet (saw) didn't convey to us. For us to be conveying lies to our friends, family, random people (by posting such lies in places such as our MOSQUES) is a disgrace, it is a stain on the pure whiteness that our Religon is founded on.
So please, Think before you email/post on forums in the future. Remember, Shaykh Google. And when that fails, use your Aql. Allah swt asks us in the Quran "Do you not use your intellect?"
Insha'allah, All that i have said above is a reminder for myself before anyone else. If you sensed any self righteousness in the above post, then please Pray to Allah swt for my forgivness.
Insha'allah, i pray that anyone who reads this may reflect on it and benefit from it.
Jazakallah/Jazakillah for your time Brothers/Sisters.
Wa'salaam.
- Zuber
Dont Mistake My Harshness For Strength And Neither Mistake My Kindness For Weakness.
Coca Cola supports Israel, yes. Coca Cola did not design it's logo to be read as "no Allah no Muhammad" backwards, it doesn't have alcohol in it, it doesn't have any traces of pork. If you're going to boycott it, do it for reasons based on fact, not urban legends spread by people who think they're doing good. I think that's what this whole thread is about..
Coca Cola supports Israel, yes. Coca Cola did not design it's logo to be read as "no Allah no Muhammad" backwards, it doesn't have alcohol in it, it doesn't have any traces of pork. If you're going to boycott it, do it for reasons based on fact, not urban legends spread by people who think they're doing good. I think that's what this whole thread is about..
Dont Mistake My Harshness For Strength And Neither Mistake My Kindness For Weakness.
but i hope you still don't believe the whole "La mecca La muhammed" rumour, as you did in the other 'Coke' thread.
lol, I can't for sure say I don't believe it. But neither can I say anymore that I believe it. So I'm in doubt. Let's say even if it doesn't but.........
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format_quote Originally Posted by crayon
Coca Cola supports Israel, yes. Coca Cola did not design it's logo to be read as "no Allah no Muhammad" backwards, it doesn't have alcohol in it, it doesn't have any traces of pork. If you're going to boycott it, do it for reasons based on fact, not urban legends spread by people who think they're doing good. I think that's what this whole thread is about..
....... you still agree that Coca Cola supports Israel.
I never claimed it contains haram ingredients. Like so many other people, I'd never have thought that a soft drink could be haram ingredient-wise. It was initially my concern/belief about the logo and their support of Israel that led me to boycott them.
However The following are not true of Cola Cola...
I was wrong to say that the purchasing of coca cola is 'haram'. But obviously by that I meant the financial contribution to Israeli supporters - which again doesn't make it haram, since as someone pointed out that the Prophet (PBUH) traded with Jews and Polytheists.
However, I as a muslim do not want to put my hand into something that is linked to the suffering of the Ummah. Surely that is better, right? Mustahabb? Don't forget, in the Prophet's times, muslims had the strength of imaan to fight the kuffar and needed not to weaken them financially to resist their attacks on Islam and muslims. But that is not the case today. If we can make a difference, by weakening their finance of warfare, then we can from wherever we are in the world, help the Ummah. It kills me to think that it is our money which goes toward the bullets they put into a muslims body. That's enough for me.
So the next time you pour yourselves a glass of coke contemplate whether you have contributed to the loss of a muslim life.
As it happened in the 'Is Coke harram' thread, I will now withdraw from engaging in further arguement - since it's up to each person to do what they want. For that reason I'm out.
To the thread starter I TOTALLY agree with what you are saying..I hate people sending me those messages and saying forward it or you'll die.i mean you'll have bad luck..I just get annoyed..sending me an email for me to benefit from it is something while warning me..that's just a turn-off from reading anything..Yes i agree when i was younger i read these emails and if it was amazing or shocking i would forward it but now i read them carefully think about it and after alongg time email certain people..We really do need to think before we do anything which even includes transferring false beliefs. So. Jazakallah Khair for the reminder and post bro.
“The believers in their mutual kindness, compassion and sympathy are just like one body. When one of the limbs is afflicted, the whole body responds to it with sleeplessness and fever”.
Why would somebody who makes fizzy drinks support Israel, or Palestine for that matter? They might give money to charities and 'peace' conferences in both countries, but taking sides is just silly if you are a multinational company that tries to attract as big a market as possible.
Israelis actually think that Coke is anti-Israel, because they closed all their factories there and left the Palestinian ones open, persumably because of bad business.
Coca-Cola has been occupying and reaping the benefits from stolen property in Egypt -- property that was stolen from its Jewish owners, the Bigio family, by the Egyptian government. When the Bigios learned about Coca-Cola's plan to acquire an interest in their property, they repeatedly asked Coca-Cola to do the right thing and compensate them for their loss. But Coca-Cola has never offered them a penny. (For more details, see the ZOA's press release on March 9, 2007.)
Coca-Cola should be ashamed of its unfair and immoral conduct. The Company holds itself out as "more than a beverage company" -- it's a "corporate citizen of the world" that's supposed to "act in every instance with honesty, integrity, accountability and respect." Coca-Cola tells its employees to "never engage in behavior that harms the reputation of the Company. If you wouldn't want to tell your parents or your children about your action -- or wouldn't want to read about it in a newspaper -- don't do it."
Then why is the "Coca-Cola Bottling Companies of Egypt"
operating on the property of Jewish victims of anti-Semitism?
Please Take Three Simple Steps To Get Coca-Cola To
Live Up To Its Own Credo And Compensate The Bigios For Their Loss.
1. Tell Coca-Cola That You Don't Support Companies That Participate In And Benefit From Anti-Semitism. Write to: E. Neville Isdell, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
The Coca-Cola Company
P.O. Box 1734
Atlanta, GA 30301
and/or e-mail Coca-Cola at: www.CokeFeedback.com and [email protected]
and/or call Coca-Cola at: 1-800-GET COKE (438-2653)
Sample message: Dear Mr. Isdell,
I condemn Coca-Cola's treatment of the Bigio family, whose property was stolen from them by the Egyptian government in 1962, in a campaign of anti-Semitism. Knowing this, Coca-Cola nevertheless acquired an interest in the Bigios' property -- which is now being occupied by the "Coca-Cola Bottling Companies of Egypt" -- and has refused to compensate the Bigios for their loss.
I will not buy Coca-Cola products until you right the wrong that's been perpetrated against the Bigio family. No company that prides itself on a reputation of honesty, integrity, accountability and respect, should be participating and benefiting from anti-Semitism. 2. Boycott Coca-Cola Products! There are many, including A&W, Bacardi Mixers, Canada Dry, Crush, Dasani, Dannon, Dr. Pepper, Fanta, Fresca, Fruitopia, Hi-C, Horizon, Joy, Minute Maid, Nescafe, Nestea, Nature's Own, Schweppes, Seagrams, Sprite and TaB. For a complete list, go to http://www.thecoca-company.com/brands/brandlist.html.
3. Forward This Action Alert To Everyone You Know! Your Activism Will Send A Message That Decent And Fair-Minded People Won't Stand Idly By When Companies Act With Impunity Against Innocent People.
* * *
The Zionist Organization of America, founded in 1897, is the oldest pro-Israel organization in the United States. The ZOA works to strengthen U.S.-Israel relations, educates the American public and Congress about the dangers that Israel faces, and combats anti-Israel bias in the media and on college campuses. Its past presidents have included Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis and Rabbi Dr. Abba Hillel Silver.
You know what the problem is with these rumours? They're not cool enough.
Rather than saying things like 'Coca Cola contains pig buttocks' why don't they say something like 'Coca Cola contains mind-altering nanomachines that will transform the human race into flesh-eating zombies'? If you're going to lie, might as well lie with style.
I've been thinking,... and i think i've come to realise HOW they came to the conclusion that Coke contains the same bacteria as the bacteria inside the stomach of a Pig..
...Pigs can eat an entire human body within a week. I mean Flesh, internals, bones,.. the whole lot. And they'll also disgest it as if they ate a lettuce.
Now on the other hand, if you put a BONE in a glass of coke, it will start to 'fade' away, it will deterioate slowly, it will be 'eaten away' in other words.
So, in other words, the BACTERIA is the same as the 1 insie of a pigs stomach! Omg!
Anyway,.. i am too bored at 6.32am...
Dont Mistake My Harshness For Strength And Neither Mistake My Kindness For Weakness.
I've been thinking,... and i think i've come to realise HOW they came to the conclusion that Coke contains the same bacteria as the bacteria inside the stomach of a Pig..
...Pigs can eat an entire human body within a week. I mean Flesh, internals, bones,.. the whole lot. And they'll also disgest it as if they ate a lettuce.
Now on the other hand, if you put a BONE in a glass of coke, it will start to 'fade' away, it will deterioate slowly, it will be 'eaten away' in other words.
So, in other words, the BACTERIA is the same as the 1 insie of a pigs stomach! Omg!
Anyway,.. i am too bored at 6.32am...
That is a valid reason to drink more coke.
Stop and think if you drink enough coke you would be able to eat hard boiled eggs without peeling, shelling them. You would not have to worry about fish bones any more either. Another plus, by drinking enough coke you could get your daily iron requirement just by swallowing a few nails.
the wonderful values of coke. imagine being able to cut down on your food bill by being able to eat sand, rocks and rusty car parts, if you drink enough coke.
Buy more coke, reduce your food bill, plus it also works for cleaning paint brushes, cleaning toilet bowls and provides jobs for dentists.
while reading the bro zubairs first thread..i wished there was a halal way to do a HI5..
bro..you have captured my thoughts exactly...when people tell me that doritos and smiths are haram..i feel like eating more and more of them...im sick of "...the packet doesnt say it..bt trust me..it has blah in it..they just dont have to write it coz its less than 2%"
i have a few stories to tell:
1) i live in a system religious boarding houses..u are randomly allocated to houses filled with girls u dont agree with. its annoying..bt for Allahs sake..its cool.
one day, i came home..i opened the oven and found a plate of apples. i laughed and said "ok..i know u girls are weird..bt why are the apples in the oven" (the oven wasnt turned on).
the rest of the dialogue went a lil like this:
-"oh sevgi dont you dare eat them!!"
-"why man..?"
-"aparently they glaze apples with pork fat so they shine more...and these ones tasted a lil weird"
-"oh!..ok...i understand.."
(after a lot of irrational argumentation)
(sevgi starts eating apple)
2.my second story makes me angry.
one of the girls i live with....sweet girl...boycotts anything jewish..
i think thats stupid..bt anyways...we live in the west...run away as much as you can...lol..we went to a eat in restaurant thing...she didnt want coke or lemonade..so ordered a mount franklin...i couldnt hold back the laughs.
on a more serious note...:
she doesnt use the washing powder we buy..i dnt care if OMO is jewish..its bloody good! well, anyways..she buys her own stuff..and so doesnt always have an ample supply...so cant always wash her clothes...
now tell me..whats better...ur feet stinking coz u wear socks all day everyday...and cant wash em regularly...and having a pile of dirty clothes in ur room...or smelling like a jewish product??? mate..one of them is against islam..guess which one..
furthermore..we went on a camp with these girls..and this particular jew product boycotting girl didnt eat a thing coz aparantly all we bought was jewish stuff...can we help it? dude..if its halal..im buying it...anyways..
she got so sick..excuse me but, forget not being able to do no. 2 in the toilet..she couldnt do no. 1...she was in pain etc...and my frend who is a nurse grabbed her..chucked her in the toilet and said try ur best or im gna shove food down ur throat...and my boycotting frend started lying...saying "i did it i swear.." and my nurse frend was like "dnt flush im gna check!" (shes a nurse..she sees a lot) and my other frend didnt let..she was lying...and then we had to call the doctor..and the doctor said..."she has to eat.."
ok..now that ive told u those stories...people..theres no need to be obsessive..its good to be weary..but...i mean..whats worse...not eating jewish stuff...or harming ur body and lying??
yes..people like this exist..everywhere...i think its stupid.
"'Cause I hear the whispered words
In your masterpiece beautiful
You speak the unspeakable through
I love you too"
Stop and think if you drink enough coke you would be able to eat hard boiled eggs without peeling, shelling them. You would not have to worry about fish bones any more either. Another plus, by drinking enough coke you could get your daily iron requirement just by swallowing a few nails.
the wonderful values of coke. imagine being able to cut down on your food bill by being able to eat sand, rocks and rusty car parts, if you drink enough coke.
Buy more coke, reduce your food bill, plus it also works for cleaning paint brushes, cleaning toilet bowls and provides jobs for dentists.
and by the by,,
israf is haraam...why waste all the nutritionous car parts when u can eat it all up..nom nom..
iron deficiency??? not anymore...:P
"'Cause I hear the whispered words
In your masterpiece beautiful
You speak the unspeakable through
I love you too"
Muslims in America have no choice really, do they? Regardless of what products they boycott, at the end of the year they still have to pay Tax. And where does the tax money end up?
Exactly.
Dont Mistake My Harshness For Strength And Neither Mistake My Kindness For Weakness.
Muslims in America have no choice really, do they? Regardless of what products they boycott, at the end of the year they still have to pay Tax. And where does the tax money end up?
Exactly.
True.
Also there is another thing over looked. In todays world of giant international corporations and products being manufactured from either imported products or shipped by foreign vessels/aircraft etc. Unless you live in an Islamic country, buy products that are completly produced within your country and pay no taxes to anybody, some of the money you spend will be going to a non-Islamic or haram purpose.
No matter where you live, any product you use can be traced to having come from a source outside your country, either the entire product or components used to make it.
Even a simple loaf of bread made in your own house by your own mother or wife or yourself.
Where did the wheat used to make the flour come from?
Nearly all of the wheat grown in the world comes from either the USA or Canada, a large portion of the rest comes from Russia.
You eat rice I assume, how many rice patties are in your country, where did the rice come from? What company owned the ship it came to your country on?
How about the car you ride in, the typical automobile is made of components from over 100 different countries.
A person could go crazy if they listen to all of the propaganda and believed it.
We do need to be cautious, but at the same time we must follow reason and be certain we are not deliberatly doing any haram action ourselves.
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