Fifteen Turkish soldiers killed in clashes with PKK (OP)
Fifteen Turkish soldiers killed in clashes with PKK
By Ibon Villelabeitia
ANKARA (Reuters) - Fifteen Turkish soldiers were killed and 20 were wounded in clashes with Kurdish separatist PKK rebels in southeast Turkey on Friday, Turkish officials said, in one of the deadliest attacks on the military this year.
At least 23 members of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) were also killed after rebels based in northern Iraq fired heavy weapons at a military outpost in the Semdinli region bordering Iraq and Iran, the military said.
The attack is likely to put pressure on Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan to strike back at the PKK. It also threatens to strain ties between Iraq and Turkey, which has accused Baghdad of not doing enough to crush PKK rebels.
NATO-member Turkey has attacked PKK bases in northern Iraq several times in the past 12 months but has confined itself to shelling and air strikes since a land offensive in February.
The General Staff said two Turkish soldiers were missing and that a rescue operation was under way. It said "most of our losses were caused by heavy weapon fire from the north of Iraq."
A Reuters correspondent on the Turkish side of the border saw Turkish attack helicopters and F-16 fighter jets flying over the area on Saturday. Special forces were being deployed.
Attacks by PKK rebels based in Iraq are a major irritant in relations between Ankara and Baghdad. Washington and the European Union are concerned that prolonged Turkish military operations inside Iraq could further destabilise Iraq.
Turkey's Foreign Ministry urged Baghdad to "take necessary precautions and prevent the repetition of such attacks."
Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh condemned the PKK attack but urged Ankara to act with "wisdom and self-restraint."
NATO, the EU and the U.S. embassy in Ankara condemned the PKK attack.
PM CHAIRS SECURITY MEETING
Erdogan cut short an official visit to Turkmenistan on Saturday to chair an emergency security meeting in Ankara.
Turkish military and civilian leaders pledged in the meeting to take strong actions against the PKK and said they had considered "all methods and precautions" to do so.
"The struggle against terrorism will continue with increased determination," a statement issued after the meeting said.
Parliament this month is likely to pass a government request to extend a mandate to launch military operations against the PKK in Iraq as needed. The current mandate expires on October 17.
Turkey blames the PKK, considered a terrorist organisation by the United States and the EU, for the deaths of more than 40,000 people since it launched its campaign for an ethnic Kurdish homeland in southeast Turkey in 1984.
Washington is sharing vital intelligence with Turkey on PKK movements in Iraq. The group has been weakened in recent years and the conflict has died down since its heyday in the 1990s.#
Friday's attack is the first serious challenge for Turkey's new military chief, General Ilker Basbug, who took over NATO's second-largest army in August.
Basbug has said that, while military operations against the PKK will continue, socio-economic measures are needed to bring peace to the impoverished southeast.
President Abdullah Gul hinted at a possible intelligence failure. The outpost has been attacked several times.
"We are closely investigating how this last heinous attack was made, who were the collaborators, and who facilitated this attack?" Gul said in a statement.
Erdogan has announced plans to invest up to $12 billion in southeast Turkey to improve living standards and drain support for the PKK.
The ruling AK Party hopes to wrest control of key cities in the southeast from a pro-Kurdish political party in municipal elections next March. Turkey is home to around 12 million Kurds, a sixth of the total population.
(Additional reporting by Aws Qusay in Baghdad; Editing by Dominic Evans)
And as for the onewho fears standing in front of His Lord and restrainsthe soul from impure evil desires and lusts, verily, Paradise will be his abode [79:40-41]
"hersey vatan icin!! forumlarada vatanim icin girerim, Avrupa birligine de!"
turkish patriots are funny.
Im not talking about Turkish patriots!
Im talking about Turks who have knowledge about Turkey and Islam,
so that they can help us understand whats going on in turkey.
Cause who knows better after Allah than someone who actually lives there?
And as for the onewho fears standing in front of His Lord and restrainsthe soul from impure evil desires and lusts, verily, Paradise will be his abode [79:40-41]
Re: Fifteen Turkish soldiers killed in clashes with PKK
format_quote Originally Posted by Güven
Im not talking about Turkish patriots!
Im talking about Turks who have knowledge about Turkey and Islam,
so that they can help us understand whats going on in turkey.
Cause who knows better after Allah than someone who actually lives there?
i know your not talking about patriots guven..
im calling you and the other brother you were talking to patriots. Even on an islamic forum you wish to better explain Turkey's disposition. you wish that more knowledgable turks would come along and teach these people a thing or two so that they may better sympathise with us.
guess what...the turkey in ur heads is not the turkey that exists in reality. im sorry.
"'Cause I hear the whispered words
In your masterpiece beautiful
You speak the unspeakable through
I love you too"
Re: Fifteen Turkish soldiers killed in clashes with PKK
yeah im confused too ....I see patriots ...but WHERE did i say ANYTHING about patriots or even mentioned it , or even thought about it
Im FULLY against patriotism/Nationalism.
Uhmmm.....Did i say something wrong ....again without knowing it ?
Last edited by Güven; 11-01-2008 at 08:08 PM.
And as for the onewho fears standing in front of His Lord and restrainsthe soul from impure evil desires and lusts, verily, Paradise will be his abode [79:40-41]
Re: Fifteen Turkish soldiers killed in clashes with PKK
salaams,
well if you read all the turkish posts which are conveniently in turkish, u will see that they may easily be interpreted in the way i not so willingly have. i didnt try to understand what i have...trust me..i have better things to do.
the brother (anatolia) stated that this "millet" dont care about the situation in turkey as much as you EXPECT them to...beklentilerimiz var...we expect this millet to show us more interest...more attention...and worry about us as much or close to how much we care about the situations...and as a result, we pray that more knowledgable turks come along....
to me that screams patriotism...direct or indirect..it doesnt matter. but i know that in your case guven, it is indirect....we turks seem to have this mentality built into us...we are all nationalist in some way...im not saying anything wrong..i just find it funny...
peace...i swear...
w/s
"'Cause I hear the whispered words
In your masterpiece beautiful
You speak the unspeakable through
I love you too"
Re: Fifteen Turkish soldiers killed in clashes with PKK
ok let me make things clear,
he said:
Hayır yanlış bir şey demedin.Millet verdiğin haberi fazla önemsemedi demek istiyorum.
He was clearly sayin that this "millet" didnt take this ARTICLE serious ,So i said/MEANT they are no turks and maybe because they dont know the situation in turkey thats why they dont take it serious and I as an european turk have NO knowledge about whats goin on in turkey , so i said/MEANT MAYBE we need more turks who can explain US ( including me) more things whats going on in Turkey so that we can get a view what tha hell is goin on in there lol
I dont care about turkish patriotism or nationalism orwhatever
...I only care for Islam.
oke enough
Wasallam
Last edited by Güven; 11-02-2008 at 12:58 AM.
And as for the onewho fears standing in front of His Lord and restrainsthe soul from impure evil desires and lusts, verily, Paradise will be his abode [79:40-41]
Re: Fifteen Turkish soldiers killed in clashes with PKK
By PKK nationalism, he i think means it in the literal sense "Asabiyah", which the prophet (pbuh), ardently averred against. It is haram for anyone to call for it, fight for it, or die for it.
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