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    Northern Ireland: Romanians flee from racist attacks

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    More than 100 Romanian people who fled their homes in south Belfast have been moved to a leisure centre.

    The group of about 20 families spent Tuesday night in a church hall after a spate of racist attacks on their homes.
    Police have said they do not believe paramilitaries were involved in orchestrating the attacks.
    The attacks were condemned by Prime Minister Gordon Brown who said he hoped the authorities would take all action necessary to protect the families.

    Northern Ireland Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness, who has met with the families, said the attacks were a "totally shameful episode".

    Looking at 115 Romanians huddled together on the floor of a Belfast church hall, it was possible to see the worst side of Northern Ireland - and the best - all at once.

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    Re: Northern Ireland: Romanians flee from racist attacks

    I was just about to post a thread about this.

    The attacks the Romanians suffered are terrible.
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    Re: Northern Ireland: Romanians flee from racist attacks

    they must have been well intimadated, gettin their houses attacked and everythin
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    Re: Northern Ireland: Romanians flee from racist attacks

    I just heard this recently on the news. Hopes that the government shall tackle this issue properly.
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    Re: Northern Ireland: Romanians flee from racist attacks

    It's terrible.

    Check this comment piece out as well: Bigotry in Belfast
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    Re: Northern Ireland: Romanians flee from racist attacks

    These are Romanians or Gypsies? The difference is quite sighnificant.
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    Re: Northern Ireland: Romanians flee from racist attacks

    If the news say 'Romanians' then it is well 'Romanians'.

    What difference would it make in your opinion to say 'Romanians' or 'Gypsies', care to elaborate?
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    Re: Northern Ireland: Romanians flee from racist attacks

    format_quote Originally Posted by Al-Zaara View Post
    If the news say 'Romanians' then it is well 'Romanians'.

    What difference would it make in your opinion to say 'Romanians' or 'Gypsies', care to elaborate?
    There are many, many Gypsies in Romania, so in my country we often call Gypsies as Romanians. The difference between Gypsies and Romanians is sale like between Gypsies and Germans.
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    Re: Northern Ireland: Romanians flee from racist attacks

    Yes, I am well aware of the difference between the terms and how they are used. I happen to have Finnish Romanians as neighbours. They are a few here and are known for wearing almost always their traditional clothes. Quite interesting.

    But on-topic, I do not understand how the difference of term-use has an impact on how valuable these news are? Or rather, how it changes the reaction?
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    Re: Northern Ireland: Romanians flee from racist attacks

    The PC term for gypsies is 'travellers'. What they call themselves is 'Romany'. Since neither of these terms have been used in any of the articles, I assume they are in fact Romanians.

    I don't see what difference them being gypsies would make anyway. They were still violently driven from their homes.
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    Re: Northern Ireland: Romanians flee from racist attacks

    There have been hundreds of attacks against Romanians in Italy in the last 2 years. the government even banned Romanian immigration or were at least thinking about it.
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    Re: Northern Ireland: Romanians flee from racist attacks

    Never really thought of Northern Ireland as a hotbed for racial hatred. Guess hating the Brits isn't enough anymore.
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    Racial attacks are now rising in every parts of Europe. It is typical when economy situation is going down, people start to claim foreigners about that.



    Just some days ago I saw document from Russia; how far-right Russians beat non-Russins and claim bad economy situation is from non-Russinas etc.

    Just stupid people!
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    Re: Northern Ireland: Romanians flee from racist attacks

    format_quote Originally Posted by Al-Zaara View Post
    If the news say 'Romanians' then it is well 'Romanians'.

    What difference would it make in your opinion to say 'Romanians' or 'Gypsies', care to elaborate?
    I think there is a disctinct difference between Romanians i.e. the Dacians and the Romany's who were traditionally nomdic.

    See their history here.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2000/ma...publicservices
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    Re: Northern Ireland: Romanians flee from racist attacks

    If you would take your time to read on after that post of mine? ^ My question to Amadeus85 was to find out why the terms are needed to be sorted out to then comment on the happenings in these news? Understand me?
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    Re: Northern Ireland: Romanians flee from racist attacks

    format_quote Originally Posted by Al-Zaara View Post
    If you would take your time to read on after that post of mine? ^ My question to Amadeus85 was to find out why the terms are needed to be sorted out to then comment on the happenings in these news? Understand me?
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    Re: Northern Ireland: Romanians flee from racist attacks

    format_quote Originally Posted by Al-Zaara View Post
    If the news say 'Romanians' then it is well 'Romanians'.

    What difference would it make in your opinion to say 'Romanians' or 'Gypsies', care to elaborate?
    Let me understand, you believe everything you see on TV right?
    If for you there is no difference between romanians and gypsies, then check a google maybe, search for : Romanians pictures and Gypsies pictures.
    It happens to be romanian and checking the google i got here. I am in Ireland now not in N Ireland, and i want to tell you few things.
    Romania has a population of 22 milions people, and only 1 milion are gypsies. Before 1989 they were not so many, because Nicolae Ceausescu , the dictator, banished them and seized their gold, fortunes, but after he died, gypsies started to come back, more then they were before.
    Its true this is Government`s fault, but you can`t just con****d Romanians because of Gypsies.
    They are treated the same in Romania, nobody likes them nobody gives them money when they ask for it, we hate them like Poland hate their gypsies , like Ireland hate their gypsies , like every nation that has this kind of people .
    I suggest you to check the skin collor of romanians and compare it with gypsies. They dont belong to these places, they are not from Europe, they camed from India.
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    Re: Northern Ireland: Romanians flee from racist attacks

    Let me understand, you believe everything you see on TV right?

    You don't have to understand anything out of it. I was simply saying what the news stated in which I cannot make much comment on because a) I wasn't there, b) I wasn't attacked there and c) I have never visited NI. I cannot know if they really meant Romanians or Gypsies, I have to comment on the news the way I have understood them so far.

    And again, if you would have bothered to read all the posts, you would realize I know the difference between Romanian and Gypsie. You would also understand the question you quoted was meant to further ask why the difference has to be cleared up before even commenting on the happenings. Are they justified if it were Gypsies who were attacked? Or because they were Romanians?

    You are in Ireland. What is your reaction to the happenings? Are they justified in any way?
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