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    Israel says the Turkish show portrayed men dressed as Israeli soldiers killing children

    Avigdor Lieberman, Israel's foreign minister, has ordered officials to summon Turkey's ambassador in Israel and lodge a protest over a Turkish television series that Israel says portrays its soldiers murdering Palestinian children.

    The move is the latest twist in worsening relations between the two countries which have traditionally had close defence ties.

    An Israeli foreign ministry statement quoted Lieberman as saying that the programme, screened by Turkish state television, constituted incitement against Israel "at the most grave level".

    Israeli television screened a clip on Wednesday that it said was from the series, showing an actor dressed as an Israeli soldier taking aim at a smiling young girl and shooting her in the chest from point-blank range.

    'Deteriorating relations'


    Israeli army radio said the show, about the tribulations of a Palestinian family, was aired on Tuesday on Turkey's TRT One channel and also depicted troops killing a Palestinian newborn baby delivered after its mother went into labour at an Israeli roadblock.

    "A series like this, which has not the slightest connection with reality, which presents Israeli soldiers as the murderers of innocent children, would not be appropriate for broadcast even in an enemy country and certainly not in a state which maintains diplomatic relations with Israel," Lieberman said in the statement.

    Turkey's ties with Israel have continued to deteriorate since Israel's offensive in the Gaza Strip last winter, which left hundreds of Palestinian civilians dead.

    Last week, Turkey banned Israel from an international air exercise in protest against its actions in Gaza.

    Public opinion


    Speaking on Thursday, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey's prime minister, defended the decision and said he had to take account of public opinion on Israel.

    "Anyone who exercises political power has to take account of public opinion ... I can't just put the calls from the public to one side, it's a question of sincerity," Erdogan said.

    The prime minister said Turkey had proposed that the joint exercise, which was also meant to involve the United States' air force, be either postponed or held without Israel but would not bow to interference when making decisions.

    He said: "I want people to know that Turkey is a powerful country which takes its own decisions. We don't take orders from anyone."

    Israeli officials have expressed concern over Ankara's decision to cancel the aerial manoeuvres which were to have taken place from October 12-23 in central Turkey.

    The international section of the Anatolian Eagle air exercises has been carried out annually since 2001.

    The US called the Turkish decision "inappropriate".

    'Strategic relationship'


    Turkey has been Israel's chief regional ally since the two signed a military co-operation deal in 1996, but its criticism of Israel has mounted since Erdogan's Justice and Development Party came to power in 2002.

    Speaking on Wednesday, Ehud Barak, Israel's defence minister, downplayed the increase in tensions with Turkey despite Ankara's decision to call off the joint military exercise.

    He said: "I think that basically there are ups and downs for all different reasons in relations.

    "But our relationship with Turkey is long-standing, important and strategic in nature."


    Turkey: We won't cancel TV show depicting Israelis as killers

    Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said Friday that a controversial television drama which shows actors dressed as Israeli soldiers killing Palestinian children will not be taken off the air.

    The TV program Ayirlik ("separation") shows Israeli soldiers killing Palestinian children in Gaza. In one of the scenes, an Israeli soldier shoots an unarmed little girl at point-blank range.


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    Re: Israel anger over Turkish TV show

    The truth hurts...does it not Israel?
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    Re: Israel anger over Turkish TV show

    What an hypocrites, I think they forgot about all those times when they potrayed muslims in those hollywood movies and series as terrorist, as bad guys.
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    Arab countries (Egypt, Saudi Arabia, etc) MUST follow same examples of Iran and Turkey.

    There is proposal for Turkey, Iran, and Pakistan to work together in Military technology and cooperation. It is just beginning <_<

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    It may be true, it may be hypocritical Israel, but this sort of depictions, if they are protested, should be removed.

    Yeah sure they do kill like that, so brothers and sisters, you saying its justified ain't gonna stop that. What you got to do is show them true Islam, not that an eye for an eye works.

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    Re: Israel anger over Turkish TV show

    format_quote Originally Posted by mahi View Post
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    It may be true, it may be hypocritical Israel, but this sort of depictions, if they are protested, should be removed.

    Yeah sure they do kill like that, so brothers and sisters, you saying its justified ain't gonna stop that. What you got to do is show them true Islam, not that an eye for an eye works.

    Remember to fix a damaged heart you don't attack it more, you be peaceful. Allah will deal with those that hate and only Allah has the right to judge.
    huh..? what does this have to do with Islam?
    This is pure politics.
    Israel is playing its dirty politics and Turkey is striking back.
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    Re: Israel anger over Turkish TV show

    format_quote Originally Posted by mahi View Post
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    It may be true, it may be hypocritical Israel, but this sort of depictions, if they are protested, should be removed.

    Yeah sure they do kill like that, so brothers and sisters, you saying its justified ain't gonna stop that. What you got to do is show them true Islam, not that an eye for an eye works.

    Remember to fix a damaged heart you don't attack it more, you be peaceful. Allah will deal with those that hate and only Allah has the right to judge.
    what? so we cant even portray the truth
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    Re: Israel anger over Turkish TV show

    format_quote Originally Posted by mahi View Post
    ...

    It may be true, it may be hypocritical Israel, but this sort of depictions, if they are protested, should be removed.

    Yeah sure they do kill like that, so brothers and sisters, you saying its justified ain't gonna stop that. What you got to do is show them true Islam, not that an eye for an eye works.

    Remember to fix a damaged heart you don't attack it more, you be peaceful. Allah will deal with those that hate and only Allah has the right to judge.


    I don't know what you are referring. This world is totally different, politics are not interested in Islam but endless WARS. Example, Iraq, Palestine, Bosnia, Kashmir, so on.

    Allah (SWT) allow us to defend and attack only agresssors when it happen. We are not longer to bear to see our innocent brothers and sisters dying for nothing. We should protect our people together by hand to hand.

    Welcome to real world !
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    Re: Israel anger over Turkish TV show

    format_quote Originally Posted by mahi View Post
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    It may be true, it may be hypocritical Israel, but this sort of depictions, if they are protested, should be removed.

    Yeah sure they do kill like that, so brothers and sisters, you saying its justified ain't gonna stop that. What you got to do is show them true Islam, not that an eye for an eye works.

    Remember to fix a damaged heart you don't attack it more, you be peaceful. Allah will deal with those that hate and only Allah has the right to judge.
    where in Islam does it say JUST STAY PEACEFUL AND LET ALLAH DEAL WITH IT? thats another term for simply saying yeah im a lazy Muslim who wants to do nothing, so ill sit on my a$$ and just tell God to deal with it just like the Israelites did with Moses! Islam says RISE UP AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT YOURSELF, sure you can forgive sometimes, but not when they keep killing you, and occupying your land, and holy places. they keep doing it OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER again.

    so no, dont just stay quiet and 'peaceful', but rise up and resist tyrany.
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    Re: Israel anger over Turkish TV show

    If you are a muslim, then it is not politics.

    And sure, you can portray the truth. But if it is disliked by others, you don't revel in that dislike do you? It goes to stuff that non muslims do against muslims, we don't like it. It may be the truth, but all this stuff does is create hatred. Anyone who actually sees the program as truth already knows the truth...

    I know that Allah allows us to defend ourselves. And of course, we should protect our brothers and sisters. So let me ask the poster, is that program, defending our brothers and sisters? Saving them from their forgotten plight? And we should protect our brothers hand in hand, so let me ask you, what are you doing?

    Lets not go further out of context than this program...
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    Re: Israel anger over Turkish TV show

    format_quote Originally Posted by mahi View Post
    If you are a muslim, then it is not politics.

    And sure, you can portray the truth. But if it is disliked by others, you don't revel in that dislike do you? It goes to stuff that non muslims do against muslims, we don't like it. It may be the truth, but all this stuff does is create hatred. Anyone who actually sees the program as truth already knows the truth...

    I know that Allah allows us to defend ourselves. And of course, we should protect our brothers and sisters. So let me ask the poster, is that program, defending our brothers and sisters? Saving them from their forgotten plight? And we should protect our brothers hand in hand, so let me ask you, what are you doing?

    Lets not go further out of context than this program...
    Islam is not about hatred, salam.. slm..
    You're basically saying that you love and care for the kuffar soo much, that you would even hide the truth so it doesn't displease them and make them look bad

    sorry but these are all the qualities of a suckup/coward

    and it doesn't create hatred, it creates awareness and also islam isn't a pacifist religion
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    Look forward bro, not just at what's in front of you.

    Lets all go around saying the truth is that the Israelis are murderers (whether its true or not is irrelavant to this point). The Israelis will get this and see that we think of them as murderers. Can you honestly see any good coming out of this ever?

    Stupid hate like this has been followed by so many has probably killed more muslims than helped. It just creates more hate because at the root brothers and sisters create these tensions and hate and then the ones who truly suffer are the ones currently sufferring in places like Palestine.

    People automatically hate another, but isn't it better to look for solutions? And remember, not all Even small things like this can help better relations, no matter how bad they are. I recently read about 80 Israeli high schoolers refused to conscribe to the army because they oppose the conditions that are enforced upon the muslims around them. Not everyone is bad. Would you rather turn them bad with your hatred, or show them that there are others that will match them.
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    Re: Israel anger over Turkish TV show

    format_quote Originally Posted by mahi View Post
    Look forward bro, not just at what's in front of you.

    Lets all go around saying the truth is that the Israelis are murderers (whether its true or not is irrelavant to this point). The Israelis will get this and see that we think of them as murderers. Can you honestly see any good coming out of this ever?

    Stupid hate like this has been followed by so many has probably killed more muslims than helped. It just creates more hate because at the root brothers and sisters create these tensions and hate and then the ones who truly suffer are the ones currently sufferring in places like Palestine.

    People automatically hate another, but isn't it better to look for solutions? And remember, not all Even small things like this can help better relations, no matter how bad they are. I recently read about 80 Israeli high schoolers refused to conscribe to the army because they oppose the conditions that are enforced upon the muslims around them. Not everyone is bad. Would you rather turn them bad with your hatred, or show them that there are others that will match them.
    lol good thing your not a police officer or working in government or you would be letting murderers off the hook in fear of 'offending' them! LOL now thats so funny!
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    Mahi... ^ Hang on.. So le'me get this right. If your family was shot one by one and your house demolished, are you guna 'love' the Israeli solider that does it to you? I'm sorry but c'mon, its human nature to hate anyone that would inflict that upon you & your family. While we have to spread peace we have to also acknowledge the plight of our brothers and sisters suffering at the hands of these people. Making excuses for cowards who kill innocents will not get us anywhere either. & you're right in tha sense that not eryone is bad, buh then why cover up for those whu are?
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    I personally don't understand why anyone would want to watch a show like that. I only watched the first minute of the clip and it was all murder and shooting. I turned it off. I don't like that type of entertainment. Palestine is a suffering country. Why would anyone want to watch suffereing in their free time?
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    Re: Israel anger over Turkish TV show

    ^ Salaam.

    Yes it is not easy to watch these documentaries. It gives you an idea of the suffering the Palestinians are going through. Seeing things may have a bigger impact than simply reading text.
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    Re: Israel anger over Turkish TV show

    Just to make clear, this show is a love story in Palestine, A life in Palestine. It's not an documentary orsomething.

    So it's not simply a serie showing only deaths all around the place.
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    Re: Israel anger over Turkish TV show

    format_quote Originally Posted by Güven View Post
    Just to make clear, this show is a love story in Palestine, A life in Palestine. It's not an documentary orsomething.

    So it's not simply a serie showing only deaths all around the place.
    Ah if that's the case then yeah, go ahead. It's like any other sort of drama. I haven't seen it, just making the point that going around saying its all justified is wrong.

    @Guestfellow - that is very very true. Especially with the gaza situation, the videos are better than a million articles.

    And to all the brothers and sisters are saying that I love the Israelis or the Jews and don't care about the people dying, let me ask you one question. A small question, but it'd be interesting. What would you do if you met an Israeli Jew? What if he came to your house for some water and told you who he is?
    Since all the Jews are murderers...
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    Re: Israel anger over Turkish TV show

    format_quote Originally Posted by mahi View Post
    What would you do if you met an Israeli Jew? What if he came to your house for some water and told you who he is?
    Since all the Jews are murderers...
    Where did someone say that all jews are murderers?

    we are talking about zionists who occupy lands and kill innocent people.
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    Re: Israel anger over Turkish TV show

    format_quote Originally Posted by mahi View Post
    Look forward bro, not just at what's in front of you.

    Lets all go around saying the truth is that the Israelis are murderers (whether its true or not is irrelavant to this point). The Israelis will get this and see that we think of them as murderers. Can you honestly see any good coming out of this ever?

    Stupid hate like this has been followed by so many has probably killed more muslims than helped. It just creates more hate because at the root brothers and sisters create these tensions and hate and then the ones who truly suffer are the ones currently sufferring in places like Palestine.

    People automatically hate another, but isn't it better to look for solutions? And remember, not all Even small things like this can help better relations, no matter how bad they are. I recently read about 80 Israeli high schoolers refused to conscribe to the army because they oppose the conditions that are enforced upon the muslims around them. Not everyone is bad. Would you rather turn them bad with your hatred, or show them that there are others that will match them.
    No one is promoting hate! Actions need to be taken to expose Israeli for the War criminal country that they are! In fear that we may "offend" them or might create an image in their head that Muslims think their murderers is sooo irrelevant!

    Truth is Israel is Illegally occupying land, building illegal settlements, Massacres after massacres and who sufferes from this all? our brothers and sisters in Palestine. But yet the world is asleep ... if certain actions expose these Israelis then why is that a harm?

    Great to see countries giving Israel something to panik about! first Turkey Barring Israel from military exercise then Eggypt FM refused to be in the same room as Lieberman and now this! it's fantastic! masha'Allah! may the veil be lifted from the eyes of the Muslim world!
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