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    i am erry sad about the things happening today, i want to discuss something...

    My personal belief is that all the terrorist groups: Al qaeda, taliban...
    are a big game, and i think Israel and America is behind it all, becuase in Islam it is forbidden to comit suicide.

    I think america and israel is behind all, for example: world trade center, i think ameirca or israel placed bombs in it and when the airplane flew into it the bombs went off and boom, because the tower went down, and if it onyl was the airplane hitting it it would have fallen to the side. This is my personal belief.

    I would be happy to know what you think

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    Re: Today!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Fatihjk View Post
    Israel and America is behind it all
    Any evidence to support these claims or just unsubstantiated slander?

    format_quote Originally Posted by Fatihjk View Post
    because the tower went down, and if it onyl was the airplane hitting it it would have fallen to the side.
    Are you a structural engineer?
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    Re: Today!

    I've seen those conspiracy films on 9/11.

    I'm in two minds, really.
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    Re: Today!

    Allah knows best.

    Its unfair to suspect without proofs.But i must say the 911 conspiracy movie is veryr compelling

    Note: i know this hurts a lot of US sentiments. So mods you decide if we can go thru this threads? ( i dont know i am from india )
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    Re: Today!

    It is a 'conspiracy theory' if a cabal affair known to a rebellious few who refuse to accept established facts..vs. common knowledge to anyone with the slightest amount of common sense, and inquiring mind and working eyes!

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    Re: Today!

    Are you talking about the movie called "Loose change"? I hope not, it has been entirely discredited by a number of sources.
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    Re: Today!

    Brother fatih i am with you because i dont accept the version of events from the media outlets why? because it doesn't make sense the airplane causing the whole building to burn into smithereens and then amongst the rubble they find the fireproof passport of the terrorist Satam Al Suqami sitting nicely on top as if somebody came and dropped it there.


    lies after lies the latest lie is the funny story of the lingerie bomber

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    they couldnt even get the pants correct

    the poor nigerian patsy had to blow up his bollox he blew up his bollox!!
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    wwwislamicboardcom - Today!

    you mean this? lol
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    Re: Today!

    If the USA were capable of succeeding in attaching their own buildings with explosives and equally successful in convincing people to commit suicide on their behalf in the planes then do you seriously think they'd have a problem with silencing dissenters and the 9/11 truthers?
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    Re: Today!

    They've been trying to silence them with ridicule and rebuke and other tactics.. nonetheless, the truth always has a way of creeping up and biting them in the ass..
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    Re: Today!

    they cant kill us all.

    and if an honest attempt was made to silence 911 conspiracy theorists then that would just be more evidence for us. btw how do u explain the passport mr joshua
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    The main problem with this conspiracy theory is that if it were true, the government would bloody well try harder to keep it a secret.
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    You're alright to believe that those bombings were not by muslims, bro fatih

    We should never trust the words of kuffar, they all lie against us as has been proved many times, just look at how the truth about the bombings in pakistan is coming out, they've all been staged by the american blackwater firm

    America has its foot in everything so we should think twice before we believe the crap against muslims that gets fed to us in the news
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    Re: Today!

    format_quote Originally Posted by tango92 View Post
    they cant kill us all.

    and if an honest attempt was made to silence 911 conspiracy theorists then that would just be more evidence for us. btw how do u explain the passport mr joshua
    no point trying to debate him akhi, theres too many issues like this that we'll have to defend ourselves on, 9/11 is just a huge questionable event that can be discussed for ages
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    Re: Today!

    format_quote Originally Posted by aadil77 View Post
    You're alright to believe that those bombings were not by muslims, bro fatih

    We should never trust the words of kuffar, they all lie against us as has been proved many times, just look at how the truth about the bombings in pakistan is coming out, they've all been staged by the american blackwater firm

    America has its foot in everything so we should think twice before we believe the crap against muslims that gets fed to us in the news
    So are you interested in relations with non-muslims or not? Or are you using 'kuffar' to mean something more specific here?
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    Re: Today!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Fatihjk View Post


    i am erry sad about the things happening today, i want to discuss something...

    My personal belief is that all the terrorist groups: Al qaeda, taliban...
    are a big game, and i think Israel and America is behind it all, becuase in Islam it is forbidden to comit suicide.

    I think america and israel is behind all, for example: world trade center, i think ameirca or israel placed bombs in it and when the airplane flew into it the bombs went off and boom, because the tower went down, and if it onyl was the airplane hitting it it would have fallen to the side. This is my personal belief.

    I would be happy to know what you think

    Thank You
    How far do you want to go in this? Is Bin Laden real? Is Al-Zawahiri real or just an American agent? What about the Fatwa he issued in 1996 essentially declaring war on the US? Written by the State Department? Or merely used as an excuse?

    And how to make sense of Pakistan fighting Taliban as well? Are those Taliban real? Heck, Muslim governments all over the world are, together with the US, also fighting Al-qaeda or affiliated groups. Are they all deceived by US lies?

    Perhaps you could elaborate a bit on how deep this goes according to you?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Skavau View Post
    So are you interested in relations with non-muslims or not? Or are you using 'kuffar' to mean something more specific here?
    kuffar to me means nothing more than kuffar and yeah we'll have relations with you lot, but we're not going to blindly accept most the bull that gets fed to us
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    format_quote Originally Posted by tango92 View Post
    btw how do u explain the passport mr joshua
    Why is the passport important? Why would it need to be staged and left near ground zero by secrets agents? After all, they didn't bother with the passports of the other suspects? And they knew who was on the plane anyway from the passenger list, no?
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    Re: Today!

    format_quote Originally Posted by Fatihjk View Post
    My personal belief is that all the terrorist groups: Al qaeda, taliban... are a big game, and i think Israel and America is behind it all, becuase in Islam it is forbidden to comit suicide.
    But surely you agree there are Muslim scholars out there who disagree that martyrdom operations are in fact 'suicide'? I mean, organizations like Hamas and Hizbullah have made frequent and open use of suicide bombers, no? Were these also organized by Israel and America?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by KAding View Post
    But surely you agree there are Muslim scholars out there who disagree that martyrdom operations are in fact 'suicide'? I mean, organizations like Hamas and Hizbullah have made frequent and open use of suicide bombers, no? Were these also organized by Israel and America?
    That is true, but none not a single one has claimed that targeting innocents is lawful
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