DUBAI: Playing loud music, dancing, nudity, kissing and even holding hands in public is considered inappropriate behavior under new guidelines laid down by the authorities of Dubai, a report said yesterday.
The Arabic-language daily Al-Emarat Al-Youm said the Dubai Executive Council has urged residents of Dubai, where foreigners make up more than 80 percent of the population, to respect the customs of the country and avoid inappropriate behavior.
The rules, which apply to all public places, include a ban on all forms of nudity, playing music loudly and dancing, exchange of kisses between men and women — and even on unmarried couples holding hands.
Any breach of the guidelines, by nationals or expatriates, carries a possible prison penalty, the paper said.
The guidelines also stipulate that anyone caught under the influence of alcohol — even small amounts — outside designated drinking areas is liable to being fined or imprisoned, the paper added.
Dubai, a member of the seven-emirate United Arab Emirates, has a diverse culture as it is home to a huge foreign population.
Unlike most of its neighbors, the emirate tolerates a relatively relaxed dress code and hosts dozens of hotels that have bars and clubs.
However, a series of incidents, including crackdowns on cross dressers and the expulsion of two British expatriates found guilty of having sex on the beach, has thrown into the limelight the sometimes clashing local and foreign cultures.
Ok so now on topic: I have no issue whatsoever with observing and respecting the laws, social norms and customs of any place I travel to. If I travel to Dubai and it is illegal to dance in public and drink alocohol, then I am happy to refrain from those activities while visiting there. I dont drink alcohol or dance anyway, so no big loss in any case. Likewise, observing that as a non-Muslim I am not allowed to travel to Mecca or Medina, then I would not consider visiting those cities nor be insulted that I am not allowed there. Simple matter of respect and understanding.
the vale's lilly- there is no way to respond to the "get over yourself" comment without turning the argument even more childish. It's the fact that I've been speaking my own mind that has been getting you so wound up on a number of topics already, you don't like being challenged. Supreme's right though, this argument has gone out of control and is now pointless. The picture did actually make me lol.
the vale's lilly- there is no way to respond to the "get over yourself" comment without turning the argument even more childish. It's the fact that I've been speaking my own mind that has been getting you so wound up on a number of topics already, you don't like being challenged. Supreme's right though, this argument has gone out of control and is now pointless. The picture did actually make me lol.
I don't think any 'argument' can be any more than a descent down to a mere word-play as far as you are concerned.. I think the day you become 'challenging' perhaps hell would appear on earth, freeze over and the devils will go ice-skating...The picture wasn't meant to make you 'lol' it was meant to echo your behavior sans the thousand word!
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Actually you are the only one who misunderstood what you have written!
either way Egypt/Alexandria or the two holy sites have nothing to do with Dubai or dancing so the spam goes back to page 1!
Yes they are, I haven't written you Laura are filthy, you skavu is filthy .. I said Kuffr equates to filth.
I am not talking about that. I am stating that there are forum guidelines on how you can conduct yourself. You cannot act anyway you like and you cannot type however you like if they contravene the forum rules.
Please, go chime in agreement with someone somewhere else.. and again as stated if you don't like it here don't be a member here..
Who said I don't like it here? What makes you think that typing disagreement with another person constitutes not liking it here?
You haven't contributed anything to Islam or Muslims or the community, a discourse with you is often in vain in fact we are warned against that in Islam. This forum is meant to propagate Islam and dispel or clarify misconceptions from historical accounts, other than that, no one is under any obligation to be 'nice' to you, although admittedly I find that slightly amusing considering.. a double blind hypocrisy doesn't nullify itself!
Did I say anyone was under some obligation to be nice to me? Where did I say that? At any rate, it is up to Muslims on here as to how they wish to defend, support and present Islam. It is the general objective of the forum to propagate Islam though, of course. I have never disputed that.
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I know how to sing
I know the way"
I am not talking about that. I am stating that there are forum guidelines on how you can conduct yourself. You cannot act anyway you like and you cannot type however you like if they contravene the forum rules.
I have been in perfect compliance with the forum rules-- in fact one should be allowed to hold an opinion although my opinion of you generally hasn't been expressed to my liking, I think the majority of the Muslims here see you for what you are that I need not point out the obvious!
Who said I don't like it here? What makes you think that typing disagreement with another person constitutes not liking it here?
Your constant belly-aching!
Did I say anyone was under some obligation to be nice to me? Where did I say that? At any rate, it is up to Muslims on here as to how they wish to defend, support and present Islam. It is the general objective of the forum to propagate Islam though, of course. I have never disputed that.
I have no idea what you are arguing for or against half the time, you concoct social mores and propriety as you go along, one only needs to super-impose your protests here over your defenses of vileness in other posts.. Again, a double blind hypocrisy doesn't nullify itself.. pls. quit wasting your time and mine!
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My sole observation in this thread is the hypocracy of all this.
We've got muslims equating non-muslims with filth and restricting where they can go and what they can do in muslim lands, and then the same muslims compalin about not being discriminated against in the west. Stopping you from having special rights to wear face masks in public is hardly on par with declaring you filth and making you drive on special roadways.
I actually don't care what muslims do in their own lands and I don't plan to ever visit. But when they act THAT discriminatory and then complain about "discrimination" in the west.... why should we take them seriously? Post 9/11 I actually felt sympathy for muslims faced with all the irrational outrage and name-calling from the far right, but my sympathy is waning seeing this same kind of garbage coming from the muslims themselves.
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Not letting the filth like you entering the sacred mosque is not discrimination. It simply is the rule and is based on your belief. The moment you accept Islam, you can enter the places without any restrictions except maybe legal paperwork?
Stopping women from wearing a veil in Western countries IS discrimination because the rights of these citizens are being violated by the majority. modern democracies must protect the rights of minorities beacuse they claim that they are bastions of equality and upholders of the freedom of expression? Saudi Arabia never claimed to give equal access to Sacred Mosque to the kaafirs.
So its you and your countrymen (kaafir Francophones) who are being discriminatory rude persons.
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I'm sorry, but I just don't see why we should respect the disrespectful or tolerate the intolerant. You stop calling people filth and maybe we'll start treating you with respect. This whole "you non-muslims are filth" thing is actually new to me. If its true Islamic doctrine and not just the rantings of board members here then I don't see why any non-muslim should respect Islam. What happened to all the "religion of peace" stuff?
^^ well you'll be treated like that if you treat our Muslim sisters like one in Canada.
Regarding Laura's comment that people should move back to Sharia-applying country, it just shows how ignorant she is. There are revert Canadians who are as Canadian as you can get. THeir "white" ancestors migrated here centuries ago and yes they have white skin and blue/green eyes and whatever comes along with being a "caucasian". Why should they immigrate out of Canada?
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my default is always to resepect people, but if they start declaring all not in their group to be garbage/filth... then they earn my disrespect. If this muslim sister you speak of in Canada agrees that non-muslims are filth then I would hope we'd ban her from citizenship. Canadians are supposed to respect one another. Even the Quebec separatists and federalists don't equate each other with garbage.
^^ well stop banning the veil then these sisters might treat you with respect if you showed them respect by respecting what they believe in even though you disagreed with it. Sadly (or fortunately?), people are not given Canadian citizenship based on your dictates.
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hmmm isnt being banned from wearing niqab equivalent to being treated as filth? my mom lives in Ontario and wears the niqab. I do not know what would have happened if she was in Quebec. But I do know that if some random joe from the street passed a slur, I'd make sure that I squeeze $1 million from him/her. The other day some old joe with his feet in his grave passed some comment to her in the mall, she just said "Allah akbar," only to see him run away for his pathetic life hahaha
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restricting where they can go and what they can do in muslim lands, and then the same muslims compalin about not being discriminated against in the west.
Don't be such a fruit-cake, discrimination is when there is a right. It is scared mosque, it is specifically designated for muslim and their worship. I go to your house and you don't let me in, is that discrimination?
And as for manners, well i go to japan i've wear proper business dress and show etiquettes. Nothing wrong with that, you are comparing oranges with apples. If they ask to strip something off me, that would be wrong.
It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and obedience to Allâh, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allâh, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masâkîn (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salât, and gives the Zakât, and keep their word whenever they make a promise, and who are patient in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of persecution, hardship, and war. Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqûn (the pious).
Forgive me if I am wrong. But it seems that we lost the original topic of the thread a while back. I guess that means the original topic ran it's course and it is now time to say good night and shut the doors before anybody tries to sneak in a last dance.
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