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    Soldier's Facebook video taunting Iraqi kids investigated
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    The U.S. Army is investigating a video a soldier posted on his Facebook page that depicts two Iraqi children being taunted and referred to as gay terrorists.

    "The conduct in the video is disgraceful and clearly inconsistent with the high standards expected of every Soldier," a statement from U.S. Army officials in Alaska said.

    "The Soldier was directed to remove the video from the website," the statement added.

    In the video, the two young boys are shown standing next to each other on a dirt road. The person who appears to be holding the camera asks them if they are homosexual and perform homosexual sex acts. The boys nod but it is unclear if they speak English.

    The narrator then asks the boys if they are going to grow up to become terrorists and if they are going to plant roadside bombs. The boys give the thumbs up sign. But then one boy seems to become aware that he is being mocked. He puts down his thumbs up sign and pushes the others boy's arm down as well.

    The army said it will "take appropriate action based on the findings of the investigation."

    The soldier, posted at Fort Wainwright, Alaska, was not named in the military statement. CNN has not been able to reach the soldier.

    CNN-affiliate WRAL said the video, titled "future gay terrorist," was posted by a soldier who said he was from Fairbanks, Alaska. WRAL identified the soldier as Spc. Robert Rodriguez. CNN could not reach Army officials to independently confirm the soldier's identity.

    The video has caused a stir in some military circles far away from Alaska.

    Army Staff Sgt. Veronica Jones, stationed at Fort Bragg in North Carolina, called the video a case of "stupidity and boredom."

    "Somebody took advantage of those kids because they don't speak English. That's sad," Jones told WRAL. "(This is) not a representation of soldiers. Not at all. I know plenty of soldiers who would not do anything like that."
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    Re: Iraqi Kids taunted in Facebook video

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    format_quote Originally Posted by shuraimfan4lyf View Post

    The U.S. Army is investigating a video a soldier posted on his Facebook page that depicts two Iraqi children being taunted and referred to as gay terrorists.

    "The conduct in the video is disgraceful and clearly inconsistent with the high standards expected of every Soldier," a statement from U.S. Army officials in Alaska said.

    The army said it will "take appropriate action based on the findings of the investigation."

    The video has caused a stir in some military circles far away from Alaska.

    Army Staff Sgt. Veronica Jones, stationed at Fort Bragg in North Carolina, called the video a case of "stupidity and boredom."

    "Somebody took advantage of those kids because they don't speak English. That's sad," Jones told WRAL. "(This is) not a representation of soldiers. Not at all. I know plenty of soldiers who would not do anything like that."
    It is encouraging how much negative response this video has received and that the US Army is taking appropriate action and investigating this matter.
    That's good to know!
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    Re: Iraqi Kids taunted in Facebook video

    The US Army has a track record of mistreating and degrading the people they are supposed to be freeing and protecting. This isn't all that surprising.

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    Re: Iraqi Kids taunted in Facebook video

    format_quote Originally Posted by naidamar View Post
    That is your atheism belief, as I have pointed out before.
    Just to point out that one does not necessarily imply the other other. There are concepts of moral absolutism that do not involve or require God or gods.

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    Re: Iraqi Kids taunted in Facebook video

    format_quote Originally Posted by Trumble View Post
    Just to point out that one does not necessarily imply the other other. There are concepts of moral absolutism that do not involve or require God or gods.
    right. You buddhists normally substitute God with "the Universe".
    nothing new.

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    I know the US army tries to discipline their soldiers for their embarrassing actions. But you see how many of the soldiers never got the right punishment for some mind boggling things they did such as killing innocent civilians. They went on so many trials, but I dont think any of the soldiers got death penalty.

    PADUCAH, Kentucky — An ex-soldier convicted of raping and killing an Iraqi teen and murdering her family has been sentenced to life in prison in a case that drew attention to the emotional and psychological strains on soldiers serving in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Steven Dale Green, 24, was spared the death penalty Thursday after jurors couldn't agree on a punishment for the brutal crime.

    In March 2006, after an afternoon of card playing, sex talk and drinking Iraqi whiskey, Pfc. Green and three other soldiers went to the home of 14-year-old Abeer Qassim al-Janabi near Mahmoudiya, about 20 miles south of Baghdad. Green shot and killed the teen's mother, father and sister, then became the third soldier to rape the girl before shooting her in the face. Her body was set on fire.

    Federal jurors who convicted Green of rape and murder deliberated for more than 10 hours over two days on whether to give Green a death sentence or life in prison without parole. Since they could not unanimously agree on either, life in prison had to be the verdict.

    "It's the better of two bad choices," said his father, John Green, who sighed as the verdict was read.

    His son will be sentenced Sept. 4 by U.S. District Judge Thomas B. Russell.

    In Baghdad, Iraqis said they were shocked and disappointed that Green was not sentenced to death.

    "Has Iraqi blood and honor become so cheap, where a family can be murdered and a daughter raped and killed, and the verdict is life imprisonment?" said Tariq Dawood, 55.

    Haidar Kadom, 31, a teacher there, called the sentence "a mockery of Iraqi rights."

    "If an Iraqi did the same to an American female soldier, he would be regarded as a terrorist and would be sentenced to death," he said.

    Green's attorneys never denied his involvement in the attack, instead focusing on building a case that he didn't deserve the death penalty. Former Marines and other soldiers Green served with testified that he faced an unusually stressful combat tour in Iraq's "Triangle of Death" with a unit that suffered heavy casualties and didn't receive sufficient leadership......
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    Re: Iraqi Kids taunted in Facebook video

    format_quote Originally Posted by shuraimfan4lyf View Post
    I know the US army tries to discipline their soldiers for their embarrassing actions. But you see how many of the soldiers never got the right punishment for some mind boggling things they did such as killing innocent civilians. They went on so many trials, but I dont think any of the soldiers got death penalty.

    PADUCAH, Kentucky — An ex-soldier convicted of raping and killing an Iraqi teen and murdering her family has been sentenced to life in prison in a case that drew attention to the emotional and psychological strains on soldiers serving in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Steven Dale Green, 24, was spared the death penalty Thursday after jurors couldn't agree on a punishment for the brutal crime.

    In March 2006, after an afternoon of card playing, sex talk and drinking Iraqi whiskey, Pfc. Green and three other soldiers went to the home of 14-year-old Abeer Qassim al-Janabi near Mahmoudiya, about 20 miles south of Baghdad. Green shot and killed the teen's mother, father and sister, then became the third soldier to rape the girl before shooting her in the face. Her body was set on fire.

    Federal jurors who convicted Green of rape and murder deliberated for more than 10 hours over two days on whether to give Green a death sentence or life in prison without parole. Since they could not unanimously agree on either, life in prison had to be the verdict.

    "It's the better of two bad choices," said his father, John Green, who sighed as the verdict was read.

    His son will be sentenced Sept. 4 by U.S. District Judge Thomas B. Russell.

    In Baghdad, Iraqis said they were shocked and disappointed that Green was not sentenced to death.

    "Has Iraqi blood and honor become so cheap, where a family can be murdered and a daughter raped and killed, and the verdict is life imprisonment?" said Tariq Dawood, 55.

    Haidar Kadom, 31, a teacher there, called the sentence "a mockery of Iraqi rights."

    "If an Iraqi did the same to an American female soldier, he would be regarded as a terrorist and would be sentenced to death," he said.

    Green's attorneys never denied his involvement in the attack, instead focusing on building a case that he didn't deserve the death penalty. Former Marines and other soldiers Green served with testified that he faced an unusually stressful combat tour in Iraq's "Triangle of Death" with a unit that suffered heavy casualties and didn't receive sufficient leadership......
    Death sentence is the kind of sentence that's given very very sparingly, and you can be glad that you're not talking about Europeans. European soldiers have probably committed just as bad things, but they couldn't get death sentence, since only 2 European nations have death sentence. And one requirement to joining EU is eliminating death sentence.

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    Re: Iraqi Kids taunted in Facebook video

    format_quote Originally Posted by naidamar View Post
    right. You buddhists normally substitute God with "the Universe".
    nothing new.
    to add, deontological ethics & consequentalist ethics are two such systems.


    As to the thread discussion, the type of joke played on the kids is the type of joke the dumb kids play on the ESL kids back in elementary school. I don't know why people are wishing death on the guy for this dumb joke; but I suspect the OP just stirs up negative emotions surrounding the whole Iraq war and no one actually thinks the guy should be killed for what he did. He deserves disciplinary action though that's for certain.
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    Re: Iraqi Kids taunted in Facebook video

    format_quote Originally Posted by Lynx View Post
    to add, deontological ethics & consequentalist ethics are two such systems.


    As to the thread discussion, the type of joke played on the kids is the type of joke the dumb kids play on the ESL kids back in elementary school. I don't know why people are wishing death on the guy for this dumb joke; but I suspect the OP just stirs up negative emotions surrounding the whole Iraq war and no one actually thinks the guy should be killed for what he did. He deserves disciplinary action though that's for certain.
    No, they were saying that the guy who murdered an Iraqi woman and her family should me executed. Not the man who just pulled this stupid prank.

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    Re: Iraqi Kids taunted in Facebook video

    format_quote Originally Posted by Lynx View Post
    to add, deontological ethics & consequentalist ethics are two such systems.


    As to the thread discussion, the type of joke played on the kids is the type of joke the dumb kids play on the ESL kids back in elementary school. I don't know why people are wishing death on the guy for this dumb joke; but I suspect the OP just stirs up negative emotions surrounding the whole Iraq war and no one actually thinks the guy should be killed for what he did. He deserves disciplinary action though that's for certain.
    well we don't know what that dumb kid played on the side and didn't post on his site.. Any foreign invader in Iraq is fair game for the locals!
    There is no love lost there!

    all the best
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    Re: Iraqi Kids taunted in Facebook video

    format_quote Originally Posted by AinEstonia View Post
    Death sentence is the kind of sentence that's given very very sparingly, and you can be glad that you're not talking about Europeans. European soldiers have probably committed just as bad things, but they couldn't get death sentence, since only 2 European nations have death sentence. And one requirement to joining EU is eliminating death sentence.
    That is really sad. All these governments are turning into little girls. What 2 nations have death sentence??
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    Re: Iraqi Kids taunted in Facebook video

    format_quote Originally Posted by AinEstonia View Post
    I can respect a person for wanting to take up arms because he/she thinks his/her country has been invaded, but I can't respect a person who says that a soldier who makes a bad joke should get killed for making that joke.
    the soldiers are at war with the country, so naturally whether or not they insult those kids, the kids will have to grow up and fight against them invaders for their religion and country
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    Re: Iraqi Kids taunted in Facebook video

    format_quote Originally Posted by aadil77 View Post
    the soldiers are at war with the country, so naturally whether or not they insult those kids, the kids will have to grow up and fight against them invaders for their religion and country
    May Allah make it come true..Ameen
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    Re: Iraqi Kids taunted in Facebook video

    Didnt suprise me, i thought they were all like that , There job is too shoot them kids there anyway , is it not? I mean since the kids are "Terrorists" theyre suppose to shoot em , or was he tryna make em , you know the so called "Terrorists" look bad before their dead and then kill em . .
    What exactly is the American army/soldiers things job actually meant to be when they go to Iraq, etc, To kill the Muslims right?
    Correct me if im wrong and forgive me ive said anything harsh/bad

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    Re: Iraqi Kids taunted in Facebook video

    Poor defenseless children. Why can't they play their dirty jokes on someone else?

    May Allah (swt) protect these children and give them strength to become real soldiers. Insh'Allah
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    Re: Iraqi Kids taunted in Facebook video

    This is absolutely disgusting. Vile creatures. May Allah's curse be upon them & I feel sorry for their parents who bought up such disgusting evil-minded turds. Astaghfirullah, children are so precious and innocent, how they be doing stuff like that man? So horrible and sad =(

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    Re: Iraqi Kids taunted in Facebook video

    format_quote Originally Posted by M..x View Post
    This is absolutely disgusting. Vile creatures. May Allah's curse be upon them & I feel sorry for their parents who bought up such disgusting evil-minded turds. Astaghfirullah, children are so precious and innocent, how they be doing stuff like that man? So horrible and sad =(
    A bit overreacting are we ? It was just a childish joke. The soldiers are bored so obviously they're going to find a way to entertain themselves, better this than them raping someone. Children may be innocent, but in the end they will stop being innocent anyways, so who cares.
    There are A LOT more worse things happening in the world, this is nothing, an unimportant childish joke.

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    Re: Iraqi Kids taunted in Facebook video

    format_quote Originally Posted by AinEstonia View Post
    A bit overreacting are we ? It was just a childish joke. The soldiers are bored so obviously they're going to find a way to entertain themselves, better this than them raping someone. Children may be innocent, but in the end they will stop being innocent anyways, so who cares.
    There are A LOT more worse things happening in the world, this is nothing, an unimportant childish joke.
    Again, ladies and gentlemen, a fine example of "atheist morality".

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    Re: Iraqi Kids taunted in Facebook video

    format_quote Originally Posted by AinEstonia View Post
    I can respect a person for wanting to take up arms because he/she thinks his/her country has been invaded, but I can't respect a person who says that a soldier who makes a bad joke should get killed for making that joke.
    brother or sister,whatever.Do you know whats the problem the problem is in your view the american soldiers are not invaders but in truthful view they are,some people said that the soldiers are inoccent and these kind of thing then most of us say yes you might be right but when like this soldier is moking us in our land wich has been invaded,this is something discusting.

    think about it deeply please.

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    Re: Iraqi Kids taunted in Facebook video

    format_quote Originally Posted by AinEstonia View Post
    A bit overreacting are we ? It was just a childish joke. The soldiers are bored so obviously they're going to find a way to entertain themselves, better this than them raping someone. Children may be innocent, but in the end they will stop being innocent anyways, so who cares.
    There are A LOT more worse things happening in the world, this is nothing, an unimportant childish joke.
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    Re: Iraqi Kids taunted in Facebook video

    Very childish joke but still, God bless the troops.


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