The U.S. Army is investigating a video a soldier posted on his Facebook page that depicts two Iraqi children being taunted and referred to as gay terrorists.
"The conduct in the video is disgraceful and clearly inconsistent with the high standards expected of every Soldier," a statement from U.S. Army officials in Alaska said.
"The Soldier was directed to remove the video from the website," the statement added.
In the video, the two young boys are shown standing next to each other on a dirt road. The person who appears to be holding the camera asks them if they are homosexual and perform homosexual sex acts. The boys nod but it is unclear if they speak English.
The narrator then asks the boys if they are going to grow up to become terrorists and if they are going to plant roadside bombs. The boys give the thumbs up sign. But then one boy seems to become aware that he is being mocked. He puts down his thumbs up sign and pushes the others boy's arm down as well.
The army said it will "take appropriate action based on the findings of the investigation."
The soldier, posted at Fort Wainwright, Alaska, was not named in the military statement. CNN has not been able to reach the soldier.
CNN-affiliate WRAL said the video, titled "future gay terrorist," was posted by a soldier who said he was from Fairbanks, Alaska. WRAL identified the soldier as Spc. Robert Rodriguez. CNN could not reach Army officials to independently confirm the soldier's identity.
The video has caused a stir in some military circles far away from Alaska.
Army Staff Sgt. Veronica Jones, stationed at Fort Bragg in North Carolina, called the video a case of "stupidity and boredom."
"Somebody took advantage of those kids because they don't speak English. That's sad," Jones told WRAL. "(This is) not a representation of soldiers. Not at all. I know plenty of soldiers who would not do anything like that."
Then how can you avoid the punishment, if you disbelieve, on a Day that will make the children grey-headed?
Sura Al-Muzzammil 73:17
Okay, so its alright or the whole world to laugh at them, even though they don't understand? Its the principle. It isn't right. I find this evil and if you think making comments such as is appropriate, then yes I would think your evil and heartless.
And you coincidently avoided my question, would it be merely 'inappropriate' if that was your own child? And look at what kind of things were said? Its just plain shallow for you to even say that.
There are many bad things going on in the world, but these ignorant retards are adding to them. First, the people have their land taken over and then they are victimised and abused like this in their own flippin country for the whole world to see. They might as well have banners on their forheads saying 'Hey look at me, let the whole world laugh at me, cause its so **** flippin funny' (!)
I find it ridiculous and my heart goes out for them.
If those kids were mine, I wouldn't walk up to that soldier with a machete and decapitate that soldier, but I would just tell:"Hey man, can you knock it off ?"
I bet that there were more than a few Iraqis on that day who didn't get victimized/abused.
Perhaps you should stop generalizing, and thinking that just because one soldier did something like this everyone else would as well. Cause if you don't like when Muslims are generalized based on the actions of a handful of people, you probably shouldn't generalize as well.
If those kids were mine, I wouldn't walk up to that soldier with a machete and decapitate that soldier, but I would just tell:"Hey man, can you knock it off ?"
I bet that there were more than a few Iraqis on that day who didn't get victimized/abused.
Perhaps you should stop generalizing, and thinking that just because one soldier did something like this everyone else would as well. Cause if you don't like when Muslims are generalized based on the actions of a handful of people, you probably shouldn't generalize as well.
we don't mind when you generalize Muslims, why don't you form your own group of bandits and do just that away from the rest of us?
Insha'Allah more and more of these worthless turds will be returning back in body bags!
all the best
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we don't mind when you generalize Muslims, why don't you form your own group of bandits and do just that away from the rest of us?
Insha'Allah more and more of these worthless turds will be returning back in body bags!
all the best
You do realize that if there was a revival of insurgency in Iraq then US would stay there for far far longer, and I doubt that you want that. Feel free to pray for US troops leaving the Middle East, but praying for the death of US soldiers won't do anyone any good, not you, not me or the innocent Iraqis who get stuck on the line of fire.
You do realize that if there was a revival of insurgency in Iraq then US would stay there for far far longer, and I doubt that you want that. Feel free to pray for US troops leaving the Middle East, but praying for the death of US soldiers won't do anyone any good, not you, not me or the innocent Iraqis who get stuck on the line of fire.
[Pickthal 8:36] Lo! those who disbelieve spend their wealth in order that they may debar (men) from the way of Allah. They will spend it, then it will become an anguish for them, then they will be conquered. And those who disbelieve will be gathered unto hell,
so to answer your Q if you were posing one and actually wanted to hear an opinion not of your own imagination. You can't take more out of people who have already lost just about everything to cater to your brand of greed and your global monopolies .. praying for financial losses, physical losses and eternal losses, actually accomplishes quite a bit, for it is the divine promise to the righteous!
all the best
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You do realize that if there was a revival of insurgency in Iraq then US would stay there for far far longer, and I doubt that you want that. Feel free to pray for US troops leaving the Middle East, but praying for the death of US soldiers won't do anyone any good, not you, not me or the innocent Iraqis who get stuck on the line of fire.
No my dear, I'm afraid you got the wrong story. And as I see you are so convinced by what they say in the media, that It'll be pointless to try to convince you by the contrary. But I'll tell you what is the true picture : US soldiers are not in the middle east in a noble mission to stop violence/terrorism and establish democracy. That's really a ridiculous story : why should they care about democracy in iraq or afghanistan. The role of US soldiers in Iraq is for strategic reasons : Fuel (petrol) for free, Control the middle-east region, protect israel's project, reduce the number of muslims and their impact in the world. These are reasons that the US really care about.
Now the violence is just maintained by the US forces in the region, just to justify the troops presence : if violence stops they will have no excuse to stay and execute their plans, so they will have to fuel the violence there.
So don't pray for the violence to stop just to let the troops go, that is incorrect and that will not happen because the US troops are provoking violence.
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"O you who believe! Fear ALLAH as He should be feared" [aal 'Imraan, 102]
That soldier's conduct was disgusting. His fellow soldiers should have knocked his jaw loose..
I am disappointed at the responses on here though. Killing a soldier because he invaded your country is understandable. Killing a man because he insulted a child is unjust.
It is wrong for people to generalize Muslims, and it is wrong for Muslims to generalize soldiers. Many of them enlisted just to pay off student loans or provide for a family before the war.. Why would someone unjustly invade another country and kill many innocent people just to pay off student loans? Obviously, they are very very ignorant of their situation. Anyways, the only way to kill ignorance is through education.
That soldier's conduct was disgusting. His fellow soldiers should have knocked his jaw loose..
I am disappointed at the responses on here though. Killing a soldier because he invaded your country is understandable. Killing a man because he insulted a child is unjust.
It is wrong for people to generalize Muslims, and it is wrong for Muslims to generalize soldiers. Many of them enlisted just to pay off student loans or provide for a family before the war.. Why would someone unjustly invade another country and kill many innocent people just to pay off student loans? Obviously, they are very very ignorant of their situation. Anyways, the only way to kill ignorance is through education.
There is such a thing as taking the high road, I have known people dirt poor who would rather search through garbage and take in other people's trash for furniture than go into foreign lands raping, pillaging, humiliating and murdering others (at the very cradle of civilization) no less.. really I don't see how anyone can ask for sympathy for these subhuman turds.. where is the sympathy they've shown others, when they stripped them of their clothes, beat the life out of them and took pictures?
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I will not sit here and defend them--ultimately, they are responsible for their own actions and will face the consequences. The teacher in me would like to show them their ignorance rather than attack them.
Genocide is evil, a joke like this is not, just inappropriate.
The joke in itself is not evil (after all, they are jokes), BUT the action of the soldier is evil for a number of reasons:
- the joke victims are helpless children and they were manipulated to perform the joke for the perpretator's benefits at the expense of the children
- the action of the soldier is malicious and the nature of the joke is beyond appropriate for children
- The joke victims are citizens of the country which the soldiers invaded and occupied and whose citizens are killed, prisoned and tortured, and there is high possibility that family members of the victims killed, injured, lost their homes, etc because of the invasion that the soldier took part in.
- If the soldier is sane, there is no other way to interpret the action of the soldier other than that of trying to humiliate the children. Especially so when he put it up on the internet for the whole world to see.
And they don't represent my country, since I'm not from America.
So I'm heartles and disgusting since I don't think this action was as bad as you claim it was ?
There are crappy thing going on in the world, like people starving to death, whether they're Muslim or not doesn't matter, at least to me.
If this "bad joke" did not matter to you, then why are you spending so much time here?
If those kids were mine, I wouldn't walk up to that soldier with a machete and decapitate that soldier, but I would just tell:"Hey man, can you knock it off ?"
I bet that there were more than a few Iraqis on that day who didn't get victimized/abused.
Is estonia even invaded and occupied by the USA?
What if Russia had another stalin and then invade and occupy estonia, which ravage and destroy estonia and a million estonians get killed in the process, have russian soldiers prison and torture estonians now and then, rape and kill young children, and THEN to have a bunch of russian soldiers subject YOUR children to say and perform they are homosexuals and terrorists, videotape it and put it on the web for everyone to see.
Would you still have the same response?
I guess the meaning "empathy" is lost on you.
Perhaps you should stop generalizing, and thinking that just because one soldier did something like this everyone else would as well. Cause if you don't like when Muslims are generalized based on the actions of a handful of people, you probably shouldn't generalize as well.
Muslims should feel like brothers, even if we are not the same nationality. This is sunnah.
So when our brothers are subjected to invasion, tortures and killings like what are happening in Palestina, Iraq and Afghanistan, we all share the pain.
Hence we wish the US troops to die in agonizing death!
That soldier's conduct was disgusting. His fellow soldiers should have knocked his jaw loose..
I am disappointed at the responses on here though. Killing a soldier because he invaded your country is understandable. Killing a man because he insulted a child is unjust.
It is wrong for people to generalize Muslims, and it is wrong for Muslims to generalize soldiers. Many of them enlisted just to pay off student loans or provide for a family before the war.. Why would someone unjustly invade another country and kill many innocent people just to pay off student loans? Obviously, they are very very ignorant of their situation. Anyways, the only way to kill ignorance is through education.
This is nothing personal against any soldier. Even the one who subjected the children to humiliation.
The soldiers were willingly to be enlisted. Last time I heard the USA is still a democracy, no one forces them to be a soldier.
and they are in Iraq for a war. They are aware of that.
The consequence of war is death.
And as muslims we must support our brothers in Iraq and hence we wish the soldiers death.
No my dear, I'm afraid you got the wrong story. And as I see you are so convinced by what they say in the media, that It'll be pointless to try to convince you by the contrary. But I'll tell you what is the true picture : US soldiers are not in the middle east in a noble mission to stop violence/terrorism and establish democracy. That's really a ridiculous story : why should they care about democracy in iraq or afghanistan. The role of US soldiers in Iraq is for strategic reasons : Fuel (petrol) for free, Control the middle-east region, protect israel's project, reduce the number of muslims and their impact in the world. These are reasons that the US really care about.
Now the violence is just maintained by the US forces in the region, just to justify the troops presence : if violence stops they will have no excuse to stay and execute their plans, so they will have to fuel the violence there.
So don't pray for the violence to stop just to let the troops go, that is incorrect and that will not happen because the US troops are provoking violence.
Why do I have a feeling that in your eyes every person who disagrees with you is "convinced" by the media. And have I argued that US soldiers are in Iraq on a noble mission ? I do not say that the war in Iraq was justified.
So from your viewpoint, US wants to reduce the number of Muslims ? Sooner or later the bulk of US troops will leave Iraq, it's not like Americans want troops to be there, nor the soldiers.
How are they fueling violence ? I hope you're not gonna say: " By making these kind of jokes to little children," cause that would just be ridiculous.
It's useless talking "morals" with atheists because they have none and they do not even know the meaning of it.
That's your point of view, a pretty crappy one at that. If you believe that atheists have no morals, perhaps I should believe that all Muslims are terrorists, is that fair enough ?
This is nothing personal against any soldier. Even the one who subjected the children to humiliation.
The soldiers were willingly to be enlisted. Last time I heard the USA is still a democracy, no one forces them to be a soldier.
and they are in Iraq for a war. They are aware of that.
The consequence of war is death.
And as muslims we must support our brothers in Iraq and hence we wish the soldiers death.
They did enlist voluntarily, and most don't enlist because they want to kill, but because it offers good opportunities, most do it to get enough money in order to get a decent education. And once you're a soldier, you hardly have a choice where you're going to be posted.
"And as Muslims we must support our brothers in Iraq and hence we wish the soldiers death," I guess Islam isn't all that big on peace.
So you think that an average grunt decides where he/she will be posted ? Soldiers do not have a choice, if they're sent into war, then there's really nothing they can do about it. You generalize way too fu*king much.
unlike with other nations there is no draft in the U.S.. they pretty much have a choice. they have a choice when they rape 14 year olds, they have a choice when they strip naked elderly men and pose them in obscene ways for pictures, they have a choice when they mock and bully young children, they have a choice when they sign their life over to satan..
and with that said we shall have to report you to the mods, use of f bombs is punishable by some infraction on this forum.. I do suggest you keep it up because the faster we get you out of here the better.. I run on zero tolerance for trash!
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They did enlist voluntarily, and most don't enlist because they want to kill, but because it offers good opportunities, most do it to get enough money in order to get a decent education. And once you're a soldier, you hardly have a choice where you're going to be posted.
"And as Muslims we must support our brothers in Iraq and hence we wish the soldiers death," I guess Islam isn't all that big on peace.
clearly you have no idea what 'benefits' the army offers.. I suggest you go enlist find out first hand while running to aid your fellow turds..
indeed there is a time for peace and a time for war!
all the best
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Is estonia even invaded and occupied by the USA?
What if Russia had another stalin and then invade and occupy estonia, which ravage and destroy estonia and a million estonians get killed in the process, have russian soldiers prison and torture estonians now and then, rape and kill young children, and THEN to have a bunch of russian soldiers subject YOUR children to say and perform they are homosexuals and terrorists, videotape it and put it on the web for everyone to see.
Would you still have the same response?
I guess the meaning "empathy" is lost on you.
If one day such a thing happened, I wouldn't be that mad to a couple of soldiers make fun of some kids, I would be mad for them for invading, but that's totally different. I wouldn't want a soldier to be killed because he/she made a bad joke. Like I said previously, I can respect a person for despising soldiers for invading their nation, but I'm not gonna respect a person who despises a soldier solely because that soldier made a bad joke.
And if one day Russia invaded Estonia and killed a million Estonians, then there wouldn't be that many Estonians around to say:"That was an inappropriate joke."
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Muslims should feel like brothers, even if we are not the same nationality. This is sunnah.
So when our brothers are subjected to invasion, tortures and killings like what are happening in Palestina, Iraq and Afghanistan, we all share the pain.
Hence we wish the US troops to die in agonizing death!
So if one day there would be 2 massive disasters in 2 different parts of the world. One in let's say Saudi Arabia where 10000 people died and the other in Japan where a million people died, you would be more sad about the disaster in Saudi Arabia, even tho far less people died there ?
If one day such a thing happened, I wouldn't be that mad to a couple of soldiers make fun of some kids, I would be mad for them for invading, but that's totally different. I wouldn't want a soldier to be killed because he/she made a bad joke. Like I said previously, I can respect a person for despising soldiers for invading their nation, but I'm not gonna respect a person who despises a soldier solely because that soldier made a bad joke.
Wait a minute, did you even think about what you typed? The soldier who is there invading the country is the same soldier who is there mocking the people, or in this case the kid. Does it really matter that he is making jokes? He is there invading the freaking country. He wasn't sent there on a mission to make jokes. That is enough of an excuse to hate him. Or does that make too much sense to you?
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