I was looking at myself talking to myself and I realized this conversation...I was having with myself looking at myself was a conversation with myself that I needed to have with myself.
I think if Hosni Mubarak was overthrown than there is hope everywhere inshallah. I'm very happy that the Arab world has woken up and even if the peaceful protests dont work everywhere it is still a momentous thing for the people to stand up like they are doing today and inshallah this will be a habringer of these tyrants downfall whether through peaceful protest or armed struggle. The fall of 2 tyrants in the Arab world has definitely served as a wake up call for the rest of them...I've always liked Muammer Ghaddafi but what is going in Libya is very sad and it does show Ghaddafi's disregard for the lives of his people. Salam
Mubarak isn't gone that is why the people keep protesting every friday.. Mubarak and his goons have started this under-ground counter-revolution and they've everything, the army, money and roots in evil, Israel sending them sniping weapons.. they're very calculating.. I don't think that peaceful protests are working at all.. and believe me America is supporting them.. America has vetoed against 14 countries to enable Israel to build more colonies in Palestine as we write.. you think they're really a friend to Egypt? It isn't that simple I am afraid.. all I can hope for is that people's intentions be true to God because that is the only way we'll overcome this evil which is surrounding us from every side..
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Mubarak isn't gone that is why the people keep protesting every friday.. Mubarak and his goons have started this under-ground counter-revolution and they've everything, the army, money and roots in evil, Israel sending them sniping weapons.. they're very calculating.. I don't think that peaceful protests are working at all.. and believe me America is supporting them.. America has vetoed against 14 countries to enable Israel to build more colonies in Palestine as we write.. you think they're really a friend to Egypt? It isn't that simple I am afraid.. all I can hope for is that people's intentions be true to God because that is the only way we'll overcome this evil which is surrounding us from every side..
I thought Mubarak was gone and the people were protesting other members of the Mubarak regime who still hold power? but if he is indeed still running everything behind the scenes than it cant be good.
America is the friend of the tyrants who run the Arab world but they are most definitely not the friends of the people even if they would like to make it seem that way when they see the dictators they prop up being removed by the people.
Salam
I thought Mubarak was gone and the people were protesting other members of the Mubarak regime who still hold power? but if he is indeed still running everything behind the scenes than it cant be good. America is the friend of the tyrants who run the Arab world but they are most definitely not the friends of the people even if they would like to make it seem that way when they see the dictators they prop up being removed by the people. Salam
this guy shafeeq you know the idiot who said to the human rights people 'it wasn't intended my dear' and hung up after feigning not understanding the question and claiming a bad connection thereafter, him, omar suliman, mubarak's monkey of a son all of them are doing underground things.. the police are still as brutal as ever, and I really think in someway he's waiting for the right moment to pounce back, for now he is enjoying caviar in his seaside resort while keeping abreast of what is going on.
Those people in totality who are sitting in power and in seats which they didn't earn must be removed from their seats and that will prove difficult.. I am just hoping all the chaos over the middle east will throw the U.S into a tizzy until we get our affairs in order..
we just have to watch and wait for now..and make du3a.. but I believe that there will be no going back to what was insha'Allah.. I am hopeful for Yemen and libya..
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This is strange! all of what I heard about Qaddafi is good, they said that he is giving his people a good share of the country's wealth. I heard also that any Libyan have a fixed salary since he born till he die! He always call for the unity of Middle east countries
Exactly sister ..... Though I welcome any revolution in whatever Arab country , I'm against the Lybian case .....
what happens now in Lybia is a disgrace with all the meaning of the word......
but let's say it is their choice ,just let them try what the awful capitalism would lead them too .... similar to what happened in Egypt before.....
actually he hardly gives anything to the tribes that he has, perhaps token amount and the rest he squanders on his stupidities.. do you think any level of frivolity is acceptable from that clown also who said that 'capitalism' is the alternative? Libya after all is the birthplace of Umar Al-Mukhtār and we're all hoping for an Islamic khalifate insha'Allah-- we should be against the bahraini protests as they're 70% shiia and Iran already owns areas in the region.. but Libya like the rest of the middle east needs to rid itself of that bizarre donkey!
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for this not familiar with Umar.. let me share a brief introduction courtesy of wiki:
Early life
Omar Mukhtar was born in eastern Cyrenaica, Al Butnan District, in the village of East Janzur east of Tobruk. He was orphaned early and was adopted by Sharif El Gariani nephew of Hussein Ghariani, a political-religious leader in Cyrenaica. He received his early education at the local mosque and then studied for eight years at the Senussi university at Al-Jaghbub, which was also the headquarters of the Senussi Movement. In 1899 he was sent with other Senussi to assist Rabih az-Zubayr in the resistance in Chad against the French. [edit] Italian invasion
Main articles: Italo-Turkish War and Italian Libya
In October 1911, during the Italo-Turkish War, an Italian naval contingent under the command of Admiral Luigi Faravelli reached the shores of Libya, then a territory subject to Ottoman Turkish control. The admiral demanded that the Libyans surrender their territory to the Italians or incur the immediate destruction of the city of Tripoli. The Libyans fled instead of surrendering, and the Italians bombarded the city for three days, then proclaimed the Tripolitanians to be "committed and strongly bound to Italy." This marked the beginning of a series of battles between the Italian colonial forces and the Libyan armed opposition under Omar Mukhtar. [edit] Guerrilla warfare
Main articles: Libyan resistance and History of Libya as Italian Colony
A teacher of the Qur'an by profession, Mukhtar was also skilled in the strategies and tactics of desert warfare. He knew local geography well and used that knowledge to advantage in battles against the Italians, who were unaccustomed to desert warfare. Mukhtar repeatedly led his small, highly alert groups in successful attacks against the Italians, after which they would fade back into the desert terrain. Mukhtar’s men skillfully attacked outposts, ambushed troops, and cut lines of supply and communication. The Italian army was left astonished and embarrassed by his guerrilla tactics.
In the mountainous region of Ghebel Akhdar ("Green Mountain") in 1924, Italian Governor Ernesto Bombelli created a counter-guerrilla force that inflicted a severe setback to rebel forces in April, 1925. Mukhtar then quickly modified his own tactics and was able to count on continued help from Egypt. In March, 1927, despite occupation of Giarabub from February 1926 and increasingly stringent rule under Governor Attilio Teruzzi, Mukhtar surprised Italian troops at Raheiba. Between 1927 and 1928, Mukhtar fully reorganized the Senusite forces, who were being hunted constantly by the Italians. Even General Teruzzi recognized Omar's qualities of "exceptional perseverance and strong will power." Pietro Badoglio, governor of Libya from January 1929, after extensive negotiations concluded a compromise with Mukhtar (described by the Italians as his complete submission) similar to previous Italo-Senusite accords. At the end of October, 1929, Mukhtar denounced the compromise and reëstablished a unity of action among Libyan forces, preparing himself for the ultimate confrontation with General Rodolfo Graziani, Italian military commander from March 1930.
A massive offensive in June against Mukhtar's forces having failed, Graziani, in full accord with Badoglio, Emilio De Bono (minister of the colonies), and Benito Mussolini, initiated a plan to break Cyrenian resistance: the hundred-thousand population of Gebel would be moved to concentration camps on the coast and the Libyan-Egyptian border from the coast at Giarabub would be closed, preventing any foreign help to the fighters and depriving them of support from the native population. These measures, which Graziani initiated early in 1931, took their toll on the Senusite resistance. The rebels were deprived of help and reinforcements, spied upon, hit by Italian aircraft, and pursued on the ground by the Italian forces aided by local informers and collaborators. Mukhtar continued to struggle despite increased hardships and risks, but on September 11, 1931, he was ambushed near Zonta.
Mukhtar's final adversary, Italian General Rodolfo Graziani, has given a description of the Senusite leader that is not lacking in respect: "Of medium height, stout, with white hair, beard and mustache. Omar was endowed with a quick and lively intelligence; was knowledgeable in religious matters, and revealed an energetic and impetuous character, unselfish and uncompromising; ultimately, he remained very religious and poor, even though he had been one of the most important Senusist figures." [edit] Capture and execution
Omar Mokhtar's arrest
Mukhtar’s struggle of nearly twenty years came to an end on September 11, 1931, when he was wounded in battle, then captured by the Italian army. The Italians treated the native leader hero as a prize catch. His resilience had an impact on his jailers, who later remarked upon his steadfastness. His interrogators stated that Mukhtar recited verses of peace from the Qur'an.
In three days, Mukhtar was tried, convicted, and, on September 14, 1931, sentenced to be hanged publicly (historians and scholars have questioned whether his trial was fair or impartial[2]). When asked if he wished to say any last words, Mukhtar replied with a Qur'anic phrase: "Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un." ("To God we belong and to Him we shall return."). On September 16, 1931, on the orders of the Italian court and with Italian hopes that Libyan resistance would die with him, Mukhtar was hanged before his followers in the concentration camp of Solluqon at the age of 70 years.[3] that is what we should aspire to, not these despotic monkeys that are running the show!!!
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Have anyone heard of a hungry Lybian riding the boats of death through the Mediterranean Sea? and that is where we get the economic situation there , indeed there is economical justice there ...and he tried by all means to improve it ..... I won't go on calculating the positives of the man (so much) .... or his negatives (less than any other Arab leader) .... Just I don't believe it is wise what the masses do in Lybia now..... If they will succeed in overthrowing him ,they will regret it in the future....
They don't need to, they're riding the seas of blood on land, these revolts aren't only about the economic situation, furthermore, many Libyans are indeed tribal and don't care for the cash flow to wear heart studded jilbabs like their clown or a president. It for political reasons. Ghadafi did say ''ana ba3d Allah' istghfor Allah il3atheem.. this is a person that people will regret losing? Please give me a break!
Libya like the rest of the Middle east needs to revolt now and we need to rise as one ummah not colonially divided countries.. That is and should be the underlying purpose of these revolts. Not whether I can get a job and squander my oil rich country's money!
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most of my life I lived in my Arab country , and It wasn't because of al-Gaddafi , or someone like him ,the reason I left my country....
anyway sooner or later I will be back to my country Inshallah .....
most of my life I lived in my Arab country , and It wasn't because of al-Gaddafi , or someone like him ,the reason I left my country.... anyway sooner or later I will be back to my country Inshallah .....
It isn't the issue.. all the land belongs to Allah swt.. it is about what is practical in the here and now juxtaposed on your theoretical view of how things are!
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Libya like the rest of the Middle east needs to revolt now and we need to rise as one ummah not colonially divided countries.. That is and should be the underlying purpose of these revolts.
If they succeed in overthrowing the man who offered 15 projects for unity(from the 60's till the 90's) and the other leaders failed to cooperate ,and that is the underlying purpose of these revolts ,then let's say the revolts are purposeless ....
If they succeed in overthrowing the man who offered 15 projects for unity(from the 60's till the 90's) and the other leaders failed to cooperate ,and that is the underlying purpose of these revolts ,then let's say the revolts are purposeless ....
If the ailing monkey catches pneumonia and drops dead tomorrow then keeping him on the throne is also purposeless contrary to his own opinion of outliving god and abolishing fridays he is a mere mortal bound to drop dead but his mental status has been long dead, he has also managed to alienate everyone in the region unless he's making alliance with some africa nation perhaps the Congo or Zimbabwe to shed the blood of his own people? unless you're suggesting that he bequeath the throne to is to his moronic son? Sooner or later the Libyans will have to find themselves a new leader and let's pray that Allah swt blesses them with another Umar al mukhtar .. we've all had enough of monkeys and clowns!
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Sooner or later the Libyans will have to find themselves a new leader and let's pray that Allah swt blesses them with another Umar al mukhtar ..
I wish them all the best too , and the legacy of Omar mukhtar is living ...and still the film telling that legacy of that man ,Lion of the Desert 1981 (the film that Moummar Quaddafi financed $30 million ), to be one of the most watched in the Arab word...
I wish them all the best too , and the legacy of Omar mukhtar is living ...and still the film telling that legacy of that man ,Lion of the Desert 1981 (the film that Moummar Quaddafi financed $30 million ), to be one of the most watched in the Arab word...
Well let's have faithful Muslims in actuality not in the movies shoulder the responsibility of this ummah, which I believe is far better than reminiscing about our greatness.. the greatness wasn't ours it is theirs.. they're a people that have offered what they'd and died.. what have we offered? movies .. I haven't personally seen the movie so I think 30 million dollars on actors is utter frivolity walhi.
Anyhow his own tribal leaders are turning against him now so it comes down to what the libyans want!
Last edited by جوري; 02-21-2011 at 06:36 PM.
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. I haven't personally seen the movie so I think 30 million dollars on actors is utter frivolity walhi.
I think the story of Omar Almokhtar merits more than 30 millions to be told to muslims and non-muslims (who may have no idea about him) through important medieum as the screen.....
the foto of Omar on the Lybian 10 Dinars
May God bless his soul ,and all the martyrs ...Ameen
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