Saudi woman executed for 'witchcraft and sorcery'

I find this very odd.. very very odd.. on a personal level the logician in me refuses to believe in 'black magic' etc. on the other hand I know people in Egypt have this 'science' down to an art and it is said that they do great evil with it. That one woman used to do these 'deeds' and bury the talisman with dead bodies so that no one can undo them. And at the end of her life she wanted to repent and make pilgrimage but she could never see the kaaba.. she complained to a sheikh and he cursed her & hung up on her, she died shortly after and no one wanted to bury her upon her death.. I don't know how much of that story is true but it really does remind me of the witch trials of salem.. and it is just an odd happening in the 21c.

Too much speculation.

that stuff does exist, the satanists take it seriously and some powerful politicians get into it,
the Quran even mentions it,

And when there came to them a messenger from Allah, confirming what was with them, a party of the people of the Book threw away the Book of Allah behind their backs, as if (it had been something) they did not know!
They followed what the satans gave out (falsely) against the power of Solomon: Solomon did not disbelieve, but the evil ones, teaching men sorcery, and such things as came down at babylon to the angels Harut and Marut. But neither of these taught anyone (Such things) without saying: "We are only for trial; so do not disbelieve." They learned from them the means to sow discord between man and wife. But they could not thus harm anyone except by Allah.s permission. And they learned what harmed them, not what profited them. And they knew that the buyers of (sorcery) would have no share in the happiness of the Hereafter.

And vile was the price for which they did sell their souls, if they but knew!

If they had kept their Faith and guarded themselves from evil, far better had been the reward from their Lord, if they but knew!

Quran Chapter 2:101-103



bear in mind that the Quran mentions babylon as the source,
this is where the jews spent their exile and where the talmud came out of,
it is also a fact that the kabbalah was written when the templars invaded al Aqsa and the excavations began
the church of satan's ensign is also inscribed in hebrew - indicating that it is a source language.
http://abz2000.com/images/joe-rogan-lavey.jpg

http://abz2000.com/images/PopeRatzin...ign2-20-09.jpg




these sickos perform sick rituals to call on satan and get his assistance, and once he's pleased enough with them, he'll help them.
notice how despots in positions of extreme power gravitate towards satanism, why do you think they do it?
aren't they busy people with really tough schedules?
well it seems satan has a use for people in positions of authority so he is most likely to bless them.


Summer, 1967 at Owls Nest Camp, Bohemian Grove. with two future U.S. presidents. Around the table, left to right:
Preston Hotchkis, Ronald Reagan, Harvey Hancock (standing), Richard M. Nixon, Glenn Seaborg, Jack Sparks, (unidentified individual), (unidentified individual), and Edwin W. Pauley. Retrieved July 15, 2009.



notice how they both laugh to lighten the mood and then change the subject:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2E_HP97Rzc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hszzd...eature=related

read more here: http://abz2000.com/newworldorder.aspx

Witchcraft is pure evil. This stuff ruins lives and if she was practicing black magic, she deserved to be punished. Whether executing her was right or wrong is up for debate, Not so sure myself

Saudi woman executed for 'witchcraft and sorcery'


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A Saudi woman has been executed for practising "witchcraft and sorcery", the country's interior ministry says.
A statement published by the state news agency said Amina bint Abdul Halim bin Salem Nasser was beheaded on Monday in the northern province of Jawf.
The ministry gave no further details of the charges which the woman faced.
The woman was the second person to be executed for witchcraft in Saudi Arabia this year. A Sudanese man was executed in September.
'Threat to Islam' BBC regionalist analyst Sebastian Usher says the interior ministry stated that the verdict against Ms Nasser was upheld by Saudi Arabia's highest courts, but it did not give specific details of the charges.
The London-based newspaper, al-Hayat, quoted a member of the religious police as saying that she was in her 60s and had tricked people into giving her money, claiming that she could cure their illnesses.
Our correspondent said she was arrested in April 2009.
But the human rights group Amnesty International, which has campaigned for Saudis previously sentenced to death on sorcery charges, said it had never heard of her case until now, he adds.
A Sudanese man was executed in September on similar charges, despite calls led by Amnesty for his release.
In 2007, an Egyptian national was beheaded for allegedly casting spells to try to separate a married couple.
Last year, a Lebanese man facing the death penalty on charges of sorcery, relating to a fortune-telling television programme he presented, was freed after the Saudi Supreme Court decreed that his actions had not harmed anyone.
Amnesty says that Saudi Arabia does not actually define sorcery as a capital offence. However, some of its conservative clerics have urged the strongest possible punishments against fortune-tellers and faith healers as a threat to Islam.

format_quote Originally Posted by esperanza

sorcery definitely ocurs across arab ountries especially in morocco

In Indonesia as well.

Indeed, it is pure evil.

format_quote Originally Posted by Pygoscelis

Is it common for muslims to believe in witchcraft? Or is this an extreme view I'm hearing? This is the first I've heard of it.

Yes we do. The Qu'ran (from the top of my head, Suratal Falaq) mentions witchcraft/black magic and other suras in the Quran mention it several times. Of course it's forbidden and is seen as a serious crime. Unfortunately, sihr (magic) is quite common in Muslim countries... For more detail I'd suggest looking here

As mentioned above, some of the evidences that magic is real:

The evidence of Ahl al-Sunnah concerning that is as follows:

1. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“but the Shayaateen (devils) disbelieved, teaching men magic and such things that came down at Babylon to the two angels, Haaroot and Maaroot, but neither of these two (angels) taught anyone (such things) till they had said, “We are for trial, so disbelieve not (by learning this magic from us).” And from these (angels) people learn that by which they cause separation between man and his wife, but they could not thus harm anyone except by Allaah’s Leave. And they learn that which harms them and profits them not”
[al-Baqarah 2:102]

This verse clearly indicates what we are trying to say, which is that sihr (witchcraft) is real, and that the practitioner of witchcraft may create a division between a man and his wife thereby, and that he may harm people by means of his witchcraft, but he cannot do any harm except by Allaah’s leave.

2. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And from the evil of those who practise witchcraft when they blow in the knots”
[al-Falaq 113:4]

“those who practise witchcraft when they blow in the knots” refers to female witches whose witchcraft involved tying knots then blowing into them. If witchcraft were not something real, Allaah would not have commanded us to seek refuge from it.

3. Further evidence is provided by the fact that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was bewitched by the Jew Labeed ibn al-A’sam. This is a saheeh hadeeth that was narrated by al-Bukhaari and Muslim.

Ibn al-Qayyim said: The witchcraft which can cause sickness, lethargy, mental sickness, love, hatred and delusions is something that does exist and is known by the masses. Many people know it from experience.

Al-Tafseer al-Qayyim, p. 571

Furthermore, there does exist a severe ruling in Islam against practitioners of magic, but I don't know the the exact conditions and further details for this. For example, see: http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/13941/magic

Also:

Since both the practice and learning of magic is classified in Islam as kufr (disbelief), the Shariah (Islamic law) has set aside a very stiff sentence for anyone caught practising it. The penalty for anyone caught practising it, who does not repent and give it up, is death.
[...]
The severity of the ruling on magicians is primarily to protect the weaker elements of society from falling into shirk in Tawheed al-Asma was-Sifat by attributing to magicians divine qualities belonging only to Allah. In addition to the sacrilege committed by those who practice witchcraft in earnest, magicians often claim for themselves supernatural powers and divine attributes, in order to attract a following and earn undue fame.

Dr Abu Ameenah Bilal Philips, The Fundamentals of Tawheed

If some find this to be a difficult concept, the following may be helpful:

...When dealing with the concepts of "right" and "wrong", we, as Muslims, turn to the guidance handed down to us through revelation. When God tells us in the Quran, "It may be that you dislike something that is good for you, and it may be that you love something that is bad for you," (2:216) we take this advice to heart and have complete conviction that every single divine injunction handed down to us through our Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) is for our own benefit. Sometimes, we are able to discern the benefit; at other times, we are unable to discern it. Our inability to discern the benefit in divine injunctions stems from our inherent human incapacity: our limitary knowledge prevents us from being able to come to judgments that take all possibilities into account. We may think something is good for us, but only because we are unable to understand how it would harm us. We may think something is bad for us, but only because we are unable to understand how it would benefit us. We believe that "Allah knows and you do not know." (2:216)

In this context, when the Prophet Muhammad (Allah bless him and give him peace) warned us against magic, we understand his warning as a loving and sincere indication towards what is best for us.

Imam Bukhari relates via Abu Hurayra that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said, "Shun the Destructive Seven," to which the Companions responded, "O Messenger of Allah, what are they?" The Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) replied, "Associating partners with Allah, magic, killing a human soul without right, consuming usury, consuming the wealth of an orphan, fleeing from the battlefield, and charging innocent, chaste, believing women with adultery."

In the light of this hadith, we understand that all of the seven acts mentioned by the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) are extremely harmful--destructive, in fact--to us. If someone objects by saying that they can weave a magical spell that brings benefit to their subject, we--as Muslims--believe that there are certain harmful aspects of magic that have escaped the knowledge of this person, and that our Lord, in His perfect knowledge and out of his loving concern for us, warned us against magic on the tongue of His messenger to apprise us of this.

Someone who does not believe in God or in the veracity of the Prophet Muhammad (Allah bless him and give him peace), however, will not be able to understand this...

And Allaah (swt) knows best.

format_quote Originally Posted by MustafaMc

This speech by JFK is very revealing to current events http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR5m1...layer_embedded

thanks for that reminder brother, i made a video about this a couple of years back, these videos are for educational purposes only and are relevant to the topic:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5AAEX2eoms

second one is someone else's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDM7D1teDco

format_quote Originally Posted by Abz2000

bear in mind that the Quran mentions babylon as the source,

Allah yer7amo al'3wlaqi.. I miss him.. I have never cried over the death of any scholar as much as I did him... he had such charisma I remember listening to his lectures on a long drive at night, he'd take the fright out of the lonely road and keep me co. with his beautiful stories.. just transported me to a different time and place... may Allah swt yantaqam ashaad intiqaam from his enemies.. Allahouma i7sihim 3addada wa'qtolhoum madadda wla toghadir minhoum a7ada..

ameen

what's even more disgusting than implicating prophet Solomon save to say that Asmodeus the 'king of the devils' was the son of David as a result of mating with a succubus .. sometimes when I further read into Jewish literature, I can truly understand why they're 'maghdoob 3lyhim' while the other half are truly dhaleen...

I think the more important issue here is how do you decide if someone is involved in sihr and magic? What proof is there that this woman was doing sihr on public? Just some hair, knots, ropes, matches and her looks?

I believe magic exists. But it is very rare as opposed to how common it is made out to be. Yes many in Arab world and Pakistan practice what can called "witchcraft" but I doubt they are for real in touch with Jinns and shayateen, probably lying or delusional.

There are videos on youtube of an Indian rationalist challenging Hindu tantrics to kill him through magic, no one is able to kill him. Magic is really rare.

format_quote Originally Posted by CosmicPathos

What proof is there that this woman was doing sihr

This is a judicial matter.. what proof have we that someone committed theft or murder etc etc.
we don't have all the fact so we can't judge one way or the other.. However, whether there's an outcome to their 'magic' or not I'd rather rid of such individuals especially in Egypt would really curb on the hatred, ignorance and people ripping others off with false promises.