Stella Tremblay, New Hampshire Legislator, Says U.S. Government Planned Boston Bombing
A Republican state legislator in New Hampshire is claiming that the United States government is responsible for the Boston Marathon bombing.
State Rep. Stella Tremblay (R-Auburn) posted on conservative talk show host Glenn Beck's Facebook page Friday that the attack and the subsequent search for suspects was playing out how Beck had suggested. She said the bombings were a plot by the federal government, and included a link to a video from another conservative talk show host Alex Jones, in which Jones also claims the federal government planned the bombing. Tremblay's message to Beck was posted Friday morning, before suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was arrested.
Just as you said would happen. Top Down, Bottom UP. The Boston Marathon was a Black Ops "terrorist" attack. One suspect killed, the other one will be too before they even have a chance to speak. Drones and now "terrorist" attacks by our own Government. Sad day, but a "wake up" to all of us. First there was a "suspect" then there wasnt. Infowars broke the story and they knew they had been "found out".
I watched the video. He says nothing about there not being abrasive wounds, only that there were gunshot wounds and blast wounds. I see nothing in there that contravenes the official story.
It seems that you are laying the groundwork to dismiss his confession if/when it comes.
It seems that you're only of one mind and by same token so exasperated when folks don't subscribe to your sole version of the events as if nothing else but the official story exists and from people who are so untrustworthy they've circulated the wrong pictures for two days: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...6pLid%3D300521
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If you choose not to be courteous that is your right.
In my book that has to be earned and it wasn't!
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Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
I watched the video. He says nothing about there not being abrasive wounds, only that there were gunshot wounds and blast wounds. I see nothing in there that contravenes the official story.
The doctor himself, describes 'bullet and blast' injuries.
I had mentioned that from his post-mortem pics (that are currently being circulated widely), there are no abrasions to be seen on his skin.
Which would not be in keeping of someone being dragged many metres on a tar surface.
There are instead gaping/ open wounds on his abdomen (which could be due to bullet injury), and extensive haemorrhage into his face and shoulders.
I had mentioned that from his post-mortem pics (that are currently being circulated widely), there are no abrasions to be seen on his skin.
We shall wait and see what the medical examiner says then. If the autopsy comes out and does not contradict the official story does that mean the medical examiner for Boston is in on the conspiracy also?
muslim word lives from the beginning in a great theory of conspiracy. even if you go in a muslim village you take contact with the great conspiracies. In other countries there are people who live their lives simply, without this wisdom of the conspiracy theory that muslims are proud to exhibit as the truth and as their garant of the truth. The great argument of the muslims, the power that islam has in itself:"others lie"
And another observation: muslims pretend justice and principles or show injustice not because they have principles, they only say look you hunt suspects like animals but they can not say that they are against death penalty for instance. They only like to say look you do much injustice more than us and this is unjust. But this really shows that they would like to do the same and they do but are enviously that the western are more powerful in this moment.
maybe everything is with the conspiracy, the media, the doctor, the officials. What a pity there are only proofs that are not reliable because they do not show the conspiracy.Of course i must say that i find hard to believe that a muslim can be a terrorist and also that even if he would be he would do that like a brother of the muslims and because of the things that God commanded to him. However the western are more guilty than him, maybe they killed his family
muslim word lives from the beginning in a great theory of conspiracy.
What does this mean exactly?
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even if you go in a muslim village you take contact with the great conspiracies.
You've been to a Muslim village? pray do tell!
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In other countries there are people who live their lives simply, without this wisdom of the conspiracy theory that muslims are proud to exhibit as the truth and as their garant of the truth.
unfortunately another nonsensical jumble of words!
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The great argument of the muslims, the power that islam has in itself:"others lie"
That's a complete non-argument not even an educated musing!
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And another observation: muslims pretend justice and principles or show injustice not because they have principles, they only say look you hunt suspects like animals but they can not say that they are against death penalty for instance.
Why should we be against the death penalty when it is decreed? It is however a judicial matter, not vigilantism or martial law.
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But this really shows that they would like to do the same and they do but are enviously that the western are more powerful in this moment.
so much to envy with your economy in the dumps, all time war fatigue, your national security if you actually subscribe to your govt. story is in the dumps, a teenage boy apparently closed your city down, and third world style despots. A country that once prided itself on putting a man on the moon, now prides itself on its militarism. As a country the U.S looks more and more like a braying trailer trash bible thumping wh0re who can't string a statement together (thank you for demonstrating above) than a cohesive nation of scholars and intellectuals like those who once stated:Those who would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Ben Franklin .
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Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
you are missing the point. I am not a lover of the us style.
about conspiracy theory you know that christians lie about bible, jews the same etc and the sionists rule the word in order to destroy islam probably,
Have you actually read the report of the doctors per sr. Zaria? seen the conflicting stories from the media and 'officials' - indeed it is a pity & a miserable attempt on your part!
Good luck with your cognitive conservatism - Perhaps you should now be clued in as to why your attempts at evangelizing here are grossly unsuccessful.
What can one do with a fool? ignore him & be deemed by like fools unable to respond or descend down to sewage!
best,
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
you are missing the point. I am not a lover of the us style.
about conspiracy theory you know that christians lie about bible, jews the same etc and the sionists rule the word in order to distroy islam probably,
You've no point at least none that you can evince with facts and not opinion. So let's not do this, I have a migraine & not in the mood for you or cyber buddies. Stick with topic and/or facts. Either controvert what is presented or prove yours absolute truth. There not much room for the other crap.. I think the forum itself is too old for said games even if some of its members aren't!
best,
Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
Please try to herb less when you write, I can't make out what you are saying. Per your PM I have no demons and your gender hardly comes into play when responding to you. In fact I love men very much, you're just not a category of men I love.
Try to think of the world from the other person's perspective not what you believe their perspective ought to be!
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Text without context is pretext If your opponent is of choleric temperament, seek to irritate him
thank you for this new ideea. Lets look from another perspective: ration and logic did not prove anything until now, not even that there is something provable. I observe in your muslim argumentation modern rethoric. You seem to understand religion exactly as i see westerns do: the result of a serious logical and rational deduction. After you believ, you do the things that bring you the good things that guarantee you go in heaven. This is new type of simbiosys between west and islam. Of course, none of the parts is entirely conscious about what happens.Good luck with your spiritual activities.I have some very interesting activities to. I have a war with God sometimes
: ration and logic did not prove anything until now
In Islam both the heart and the mind have to agree. In everything there's al'ma3qool wala ma3qool, even in medicine and that's discussed amply amongst scholars. Your fast food approach is the reason for your failure as far as your relations with others on this forum is concerned. Since you don't even make an attempt to break down the large nonsensical articles you quote. volume and fillers don't make up for the lack of contextuality, logical or spiritual consistency. Be that as it may, we're not here to discuss your religion or mine at least as far as this thread is concerned- rather the inconsistencies wit the latest version of the story. Perhaps we can indeed stick with that- my analogy on your failure shouldn't have come to play part in this for two reasons, the most important of those is my headache.
Thank you for your well wishes.. indeed we're hopeful that accepts from us the best of our intentions and deeds. To live is to live upon Islam and to die is to die upon Iman for this world is of action and the other is of the heart and that is between one and God.
Ann Coulter: Invade Muslim Countries and Convert them to Christianity
Well, Ms. Coulter is at it again. This time her comments about comments about Katherine Russell, the wife of the dead Boston marathon suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev. Ms. Russell is not in any way suspected of being associated with any criminal activity, and her family has already released a statement stating that they, like everyone else, were in the dark about the crimes Tamerlane is accused of doing.
So how is Ms. Russell offending Coulter? It is that Ms. Russell converted to Islam a few years ago, and has chosen to wear a head-covering when she is in public. Ms. Russell wears a form of head-covering (hijab) in public, as many Muslim women do, as many Orthodox Jewish women do, and as many Christian women used to do until not too long ago (and nuns still do).
This, choosing how to dress, is the crime for which Ms. Coulter thinks Ms. Russell (and presumably other Muslim women) should go to prison.
No, Ms. Coulter.
The whole point of a free society is that people should be free to make their own decisions about their body and their clothing.
If women want to cover their hair, more power to them.
If they want to wear shorts and a T-shirt, more power to them.
If they want to dress modestly, more power to them.
If women want to wear bikinis, more power to them.
If living in a free society means that you are free to dress as you like and get on Fox and voice your admittedly ignorant comments, those same freedoms mean that Ms. Russell, like other citizens, are free to dress as they like and believe what they want.
You can no more negate their rights without stripping yourself of yours. Not being content to stop her rant with hijab, Coulter proceeded to ask of Ms. Russell “Did she get a clitorectomy too?”
Apparently many Americans cannot tell the difference between Chechnya (a land-locked republic of former Soviet Union, currently a Russian federal subject) and the Czech Republic (an East European country).
Someone has had even had the good sense to compile a list of tweets revealing this sad if humorous confusion:
Geographically Challenged Tweets about Chechnya/Czech Republic
Yes. “Public Shaming” indeed. The lack of knowledge of many Americans about the broader world is somewhat legendary.
Now combine that lack of awareness about the world with anger, and desire to want to inflict damage on people (as in “nuking” people, even if it happens to be, well, the wrong people), and the combination is shall we say not revealing the best face of America.
By the way, a few geographically challenged Americans were calling for nuking a country, Czechoslovakia, which has not existed since 1993.
3) Fox News Identifies Root Causes of Terrorism: American Boobs, skyscrapers, and Pools. (Really).
The next “award” goes to Bill O’Reilly and Adam Carolla. Opining on Bill O’Reilly’s show, Adam Carolla vents [If you can't stomach idiocy, fast-forward to 1:55].
I wonder who the “they” are: The Tsarnaev brothers? 1.5 billion Muslims around the world? Chechens? Terrorists? All the above? Or perhaps it doesn’t matter in Carolla’s provincial worldview, as long as they are some “imagined” other.
And for the “our” in Carolla’s statement (“they hate our culture”), I wonder about the reference there as well. Who is the “we” here? Fox news? America? Maybe, just maybe, not all Americans have inflated boobies, ever-deeper pools, and skyscrapers.
For that matter, I wonder if Carolla has googled the tallest buildings in the world. (just wonderin’). Hint: It may not be where he thinks.
I also wonder about Carolla, an avowed atheist, singling out “Allah.” Could it be that he is hesitant to reveal to Fox’s conservative base that he disavows “their” Christian God as well? Fox News loves to accuse Muslims of “Taqiyya” (hiding their true religious intentions). I wonder if one could speak of “atheist taqiyya”?
Never mind.
Some comments are so idiotic that that are perhaps not worth the breath needed to dissect, analyze, and refute them. Let’s just say that these comments reveal more about Carolla’s shallow misogynist materialism than they tell us anything about any one else on the planet. And shame on Bill O’Reilly for allowing them to go on unchallenged.
[And seriously, how is this on TV? ]
Next item.
4) Asra Nomani, Muslim journalist, writing in The Washington Post: Use of phrases like “God-willing” is a sign of radicalization.
In breathless “analysis,” Nomani opined that the she had the courage to talk about what other Muslims know about but are too “politically correct” to admit: that the “increasing use” of phrases like insha’allah (“God-willing”) by Muslims is a “code inside the community for someone who is becoming hardcore.
“It doesn’t mean that they’re becoming violent or criminal,” she said, “but it’s a red flag.” * [SEE EDITOR'S NOTE BELOW]
One wonders how often Ms. Nomani has actually been around real practicing Muslims, whose daily language is imbued with reminders of the Divine:
If you ask most Muslims “How are you?”
You might hear: “Praise be to God (Alhamdulilah), I am doing well.”
If you ask most Muslims “Will I see you tomorrow?”
You might hear: “If God wills it (insha’Allah), I will be there.”
To point out a beautiful child, a Muslim might state “Look at what God has willed (masha’allah), what a beautiful child!”
The use, and increased usage, of phrases like Godwilling (insha’allah) is not a sign of radicalization, but merely one of piety. In the Qur’an, God enjoins upon Muslims: “never say I will do such-and-such tomorrow without adding If-God-wills-it-so…’” [Qur’an 18:23-24]
If such phraseology sounds “stuffy” to some ears, it is (or was) a part of the Christian tradition as well. The Epistle of James (4:15) includes the following injunction:
For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that.
If the Lord will…
God-willing. Insha’allah.
Uttering these phrases makes one neither a Christian radical nor a Muslim radical, but simply a person who recognizes that we, by our own selves, can do nothing. We acknowledge that our life, breath, soul, and will, are all dependent on God.
“And it comes down to this,” Ball said. “When you talk about terrorism, information matters. And if getting that information, including torture, would save one innocent life – including, that we’ve seen, children – would you use torture? I can tell you I would be first in line.”
That, in spite of the fact that the government’s own bi-partisan report issued recently states that torture has “no justification”, and that this practice of torture “damaged the standing of our nation, reduced our capacity to convey moral censure when necessary and potentially increased the danger to U.S. military personnel taken captive.” Furthermore, our own government has concluded that torture does not actually produce accurate results, and there is no evidence that information obtained by torture could not have been obtained by legal means.
“I hope we all work together against a religion that will motivate people to murder children and other threats to us as a civilization.”
Or should we go to other zealots who have talked about isolating mosques and putting them all under surveillance, when we know that the few Muslims who commit acts of terror come not from mosques. Instead, they tend to be isolated and alienated individuals who get their propaganda from online lectures from radical overseas clerics? In other words, we would want American Muslims to go to mosques, to have healthy and functioning mosque communities, to get their information from trained religious authorities, and to be part of a vibrant and paranoia-free community.
To put it more eloquently, listen to the words of Imam Suhaib Webb of the large Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center:
“Radicalization does not happen to young people with a strong grounding in the American Muslim mainstream; increasingly, it happens online, and sometimes abroad, among the isolated and disaffected.”
It would be helpful if the FBI did not spend millions of dollars planting 15,000 spies in mosques to do surveillance on all Muslims, and in many cases seek to brainwash susceptible young people before sweeping in to arrest those some people. I think there is a name for that: entrapment.
“Separate but equal” is a path that we as Americans have tried before, and we don’t want to go down that rabitt hole again.
Let us hope that shining the light on these provides us with an opportunity to heal, to remove shortcomings, and ameliorate our own ignorance. May it be that these may be a step towards moving woundedness to healing. .
* [EDITOR'S NOTE: THIS SECTION WAS REVISED TO MORE ACCURATELY QUOTE FROM ASRA NOMANI'S ORIGINAL PIECE]
I wonder how much these bigots say this kind of the stuff to the families of their christian anglo terrorists like Timothy McVeigh?
Judge Jeanine Pirro Slams brother's Mom: Lady, You Shouldn't Be Allowed Here" Opening Stmt - 4-27-13
"We should not be required to breathe the same air as you, we should not be required to share the indignity of your presence" says Judge Jeanine Pirro in her opening statement to the mother of the Boston bomber suspects.
muslim word lives from the beginning in a great theory of conspiracy. .
The interesting part of these 'conspiracy theories' is that they are mostly driven by non-Muslims.
If you consider the videos on YouTube, most of the comments there-under, the various 'conspiracy' web-pages,etc - there are very few Muslims, if any, who are themselves finding the discrepancies with the official story.
So, this is not about trying to defend the alleged bombers simply because they are muslim.
You see, theres a growing number of people who are awakening to the reality of media lies, government agendas and the truth that lies behind the so-called 'War on terror'.
And I find it just amazing, when I see a non-muslim, who has taken the initiative to draw the publics attention to these types of findings - and by doing so, having the indirect effect of clearing the face of islam and bringing focus on the many injustices perpetrated upon the muslim world.
The United States especially with the help of the media and government is fast becoming a puppy-brained society. I turned off my TV set years ago. Probably one of the best decisions I've made in my life. The combination of fear, paranoia, and hysteria routinely driven into the minds of the American populace by the media and government accompanied by a declining education system and entertainment culture that is openly anti-intellectual doesn't pave a good road for the future. As sister العنود mentioned a 19 year old shut down an entire U.S. city. Nobody here on this forum is denying that it is sad and tragic what happened to those who were injured and those who perished in the Boston bombings. But I personally don't think a nation of 300 million people should be going into hysteria over essentially an alleged 19 year old teenager with a crockpot. As for all of this government and media's "investigation" into Islam, Muslims, masjids, etc. designed to root out so-called "radicals" insha'Allah more and more Muslims decide to stop apologizing for being Muslim. If using the phrase "insha'Allah" makes me or you or any of the ummah a "radical" then so be it. These islamophobes can continue to make up all the lies they want against Islam and Muslims but at the end of the day no matter how many people they fool, Allah (swt) is not fooled. The fact is that the truth is radical. Liars fear the truth. They hate Allah (swt) and they hate His devotees. No matter how much they hate us and persecute us and kill us (and may Allah (swt) make things easier on us and help protect us from their harm) the fact is that no matter how hard and aggressive they try they can never kill the truth in the end nor can they bury their lies indefinitely. Allah (swt) knows best.
I wanted to share a few comments I came across beneath articles about the suspected Boston bomber’s wife Katherine Russell.
“The more I read about his wife, the more disgust I have for her for being so malleable that she could be beaten into converting to Islam, and for her parents who didn't seem to mind that their daughter comes home from college brainwashed and wearing a burka. No guidance from mom and dad, that's obvious.” (US)
“Ugggh why is she still wearing that thing on her head after what her husband did. How rude!! She needs to take it off right now!!” (UK)
“Why would any woman wish to wear cloths of oppression?” (UK)
Whilst I believe any loss of human life is of course a tragedy it is interesting to note that the comments related to Katherine Russell have largely focused on how it came to be that this all-American girl could be ‘brainwashed' into accepting the oppressive religion Islam - a completely unrelated topic!
But these comments should not come as any surprise to us because it is only natural that the average person in the West would question why any woman would turn her back on the secular liberal way of life in favour of Islam when on a daily basis politicians and the media have portrayed Islam as being the enemy of women’s rights, claiming Islam treats women as second class citizens, denies them an education, the right to work, forces them into marriages and of course condones wife –beating.
But people in the West need to wake up to the fact that despite the rhetoric, each year many educated women are reverting to Islam, in fact three quarters of all converts to Islam in the UK are women, which in itself speaks volumes!!! These women have recognised that Islam is the only system capable of guaranteeing for all women happiness, value and rights as enshrined in the Islamic texts.
And so in my opinion the only people who are ‘brainwashed’ are those who continue to blindly accept the false narrative spurned out by the West without going back to the actual model of Islamic governance as implemented via the Caliphate system, a system where daily life for women consisted of full political role, contribution to education, economic security and a secure family unit and where women were valued and viewed as an honour to be protected and treated with respect.
So shallow to see how threatened people feel due to our 'clothing.' Nobody questions the recent arrested priest's (undercover) wife about her beliefs and dress code when her husband committed sexual assault towards the community who trusted him. Nobody questioned the highly respected rabbi's daughters and wife when he raped his daughters in secret for 10 years (his name was NOT even disclosed or his picture). Nobody questions the family of the leaders who are dropping drones like raindrops on innocent men women children and the elderly on a regular basis. Nobody questions the family of the mental teens and guys who randomly shot toddlers in schools and killed themselves, are we even allowed to label their family for not bringing him up properly for committing such atrocity?
So, why, is this sister being insulted, degraded, undermined, isolated and judged because of an act her husband has been 'suspected' of doing?
Ironic? No, Predictable
Lets not forget the comment of an Islamophobe bigot, Ann Coulter, who says "She should be in prison for wearing hijab"
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so much to envy with your economy in the dumps, all time war fatigue, your national security if you actually subscribe to your govt. story is in the dumps, a teenage boy apparently closed your city down, and third world style despots. A country that once prided itself on putting a man on the moon, now prides itself on its militarism. As a country the U.S looks more and more like a braying trailer trash bible thumping wh0re who can't string a statement together (thank you for demonstrating above) than a cohesive nation of scholars and intellectuals like those who once stated:Those who would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Ben Franklin .
accepts from us the best of our intentions and deeds. To live is to live upon Islam and to die is to die upon Iman 
for this world is of action and the other is of the heart and that is between one and God.
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