I've read one story long ago, which may explain some of the wars:
One guy introduced to another tender cat and a loaf of bread.
- Bet, i can make this cat to torn this loaf of bread to crumbs
- No way, it's impossible!
- Then look!
He put cat on the floor and a bread next to him.
Then, with his leg, wrapped in sturdy boot, he stand on the cat's tail.
The cat was screaming and furiously fighting the boot, got frustrated with the invinsible boot but feeling the great pain, cat turned to the loaf of bread an torned it to crumbs.
So this is ISIS or not ISIS ?
What should muslims do when these kind of attacka happen immigrate to Syria ?
We need to condemn kind of attacks and ISIS (or who ever lunatic group). They should think at the first that kind of attacks will cause more suffering to others, like civilians in Syria as soon the West have to attack to there. But when kind of groups have thought suffering they cause to the innocents? Never.
Ask your mufti...he seems to hold all the answers to the state we are in...or maybe you should approach the ones that endears more to your heart...Allah says He will strike TERROR into the hearts of the disbelievers...
lets review what the definition of terror is...
Problem is everyone thinks he/she holds all the answers...
We want to portray Islam as Peaceful, so that we can endear the other religions, once things like this happen we jump and refute, we go "I AM MUSLIM, THOSE ACTS WEREN'T IN MY NAME'
So everything the Quran states isn't in your name? Allah tells us be merciful towards the believer and hard towards the disbeliever, do we adhere to that? well, do we????
We scream, khawarij...we scream all these evils because we FEAR, we Fear that if we leave behind all we know then what happens...So you dont even believe in Qadr...being called Ahmad, Muhammad etc is all but a name...embracing your Identity is completely something else...Islam means Submission to the Will of God....so if your are muslims and fall under the banner of Islam, shouldnt you be submitting to the Will of God?
Its not what you want, but what Allah COMMANDS...!!!
You value the life of the kufar higher than the life of those in Syria, Iraq, Palestine?...why cant someone retaliate if someone killed his mother, father, sister, uncle, brother etc?...TRUTH WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL, FALSEHOOD IS BY ITS NATURE BOUND TO PERISH!!!!
Your mother gets killed you believe in dar-al kufr system for justice? Is that really justice for you? Sometimes the murderer gets off scott free...Is that justice for you?
You value the life of the kufar higher than the life of those in Syria, Iraq, Palestine?...why cant someone retaliate if someone killed his mother, father, sister, uncle, brother etc?...TRUTH WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL, FALSEHOOD IS BY ITS NATURE BOUND TO PERISH!!!!
I really hope you didn´t call this attack as "retaliation".
Retaliate the injustice as killing civilians, including women and children, is very far what Islam teach to us.
But maybe I just understood the meaning of your post by the wrong way. Hopely.
truth is you dont want to accept the truth, so you will come up with, when we say innocent then they scream kufar...thats like retarded....why are you praying for Paris, when everyone else is being bombed does the Guardian Post say...pray for so and so...hypocrites this media...
What makes the people of PARIS more INNOCENT than any of the other places...WHEN muslims are being killed, so a muslim child doesnt hold the same like a kufar child? Please people...you should really dig deep into your souls...i cant help but compare, you people are then going crazy on this thread about 'PEACE FOR PARIS....
Did you all forget the atrocities that the french commit? Im really confused..maybe i live in a dystopia and you all live in utopia...
The news coverage of the event in France in one day has multiplied to the extent of disproportionately overweighing all of the French governments attacks in Syria since september. However tlas usual, the Kuffar governments' method of staying tight lipped about the effects of their horrendous crimes globally, while constantly trumpeting the manufactured "mad irrational savage islamist" propaganda seems to have become the standard method.
When will the people of France ask their government why it's killing innocent civilians in Syria which obviously will cause some to retaliate.
Do any of us wonder at the fact over 30,000 people were killed by kafir coalition airstrikes in Libya after the U.S and French governments primarilyand also their mercenary allies decided that gaddafi wasn't friendly enough with the zionists and that he wasn't playing the nwo puppet game ridiculously enough, and directly and indirectly instigated an uprising and named it "arab democracy", only to force install a u.s friendly military dictator once the fuss was a little quitened.
Are we forgetting the fact that over 250,000 people in syria lie dead with glazed eyes afer the u.s government decided that Assad was like gaddafi and then played the pretend game of "we're the Islamists best friends" while arming anyone who was willing to pick up a gun for whatever reason, only to turn around and bomb the people with drones and jets in the name of fighting Islamic extr
Guys i'm not trying to justify promote the killing of innocents anywhere, but if you weigh these events on a just balance you'll find that the french government hasn't been retaliated to even one percent.
The method is the same, so it's likely the attacks are connected.It's not shocking because of France's position on Syria. France has always been at the forefront of the conflict and has been involved from its start when it took a strong position against Bashar al-Assad's government, and also later against Daesh [ISIL] on the ground and that will continue.
Al Jazeera: With regards to Assad, will this attack change the stance France has adopted?
Piet:*The French position has always been that the first thing that should happen is for President Assad to step down. I don't think anything will change. The first thing you have to do when you're facing terrorist actions is to show this will have absolutely no impact on your policies.
Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah quoting above... does he mean that rebellion about any tyrant forbidden?
I would never accept this!
I've seen in Quran some places regarding corrupted rulers.
May be need some clarifications about.
Sis, the scholars I follow all condemn such attacks of terror, and they all have unequivocally stated that those who are doing such attacks anywhere in the world thinking they are pleasing Allah are instead preparing their own doom with Allah SWT for Allah SWT will question them for their heinous actions.
If Allah SWT wanted everyone to be the same, Allah SWT would have made us all Muslims. However, Allah didn't will that. You see, on the Day of Promises all souls acknowledged the lordship of Allah SWT; however, in Allah's Infinite Wisdom, some people on earth are showing that faith, and others are not. My sheikh (may Allah bless him) had said that whoever does an atom of benefit to Muslim, that person must eventually reach to faith before dying in his last seven breaths. Also, Imam Ghazali had a very wide definition of who is really a disbeliever. Many non-Muslims also on Judgment Day will be given a test to see if they are sincere towards the faith that they will reach. The reason I mention this is because I disagree with the harsh stance you are adopting against non-Muslims. Yes, these people (ISIS, ISIL, and the like) are all Khwarij because our scholars have given specific identification of who are Khwarij; they are people whose actions look like they are in conformity with Islam but in reality they are in alignment with satanic protocol that makes them believe they are the only right kind of Muslims and they therefore delude themselves into thinking they can do whatever actions they deem fit because of their self-proclaimed righteousness and rightness.
I value all lives equally because I believe Allah SWT has a Divine Plan for all of us, and we're all (whether non-Muslim or Muslim) representing that Plan's unfolding in our actions.
Retaliation as the kind that you're describing is against Islam because retaliation of the type that you are describing, as per Islamic scholars, can only be undertaken when 1) Muslims are all united over the world, and they have jointly approved of a Khalifa, 2) the Khalifa as leader of the Muslim world then thinks that the right action to take is the course of war, and the 3) a war is fought keeping all the Islamic rules and prescription for a just warfare. However, here, if we're talking of these Paris attacks assuming they were committed by ISIS or the likes, we're speaking specifically of vigilantism, and that kind of vigilantism is forbidden in Islam and Islamic scholars have also taken this same position.
Note I'm not saying that atrocities are not being committed on Muslims; they are, and undoubtedly Allah SWT will question all responsible on Judgment Day as no soul will be wronged even an atom. However, as to the matter of Muslims dying worldwide, Infinite Wisdom and Infinite Mercy of Allah SWT is at play for this bloodshed was prophesied by Prophet Muhammad sallalahu alayhi wasallam (peace and blessings be upon him) for when the Muslims will be too cornered and almost hopeless in the reigning chaos will we as an Ummah have reason to rejoice when we'll have Mahdi alayhis salaam (peace be upon him) emerge and Prophet Isa (Jesus) alayhis salaam (peace be upon him) returns to pave way again for truth, mercy, peace, and justice. Remember, sis, as believers, we're not promised Paradise on earth; we are promised Paradise in the hereafter. For now, while all our Ummah's pain, the suffering, the anguish are all very real, they are all also very temporary and a means of drawing our gaze back to the aakhirah (hereafter), the eternal abode.
Its sad everyone seem to be attached to dunya so you will make up the weirdest excuse...oh my soul....its clear you read and understand what you want, no matter what is being said, how sad is that?
I really can't water down Islam for the masses to understand...you can lead the camel to the water, you cant make him drink!!!
brother if the purpose of that post was to imply something then dont feel scared to say you believe so and so is khawarij...speak the truth and shame the devil!!!
Dont hide behind an invisible barrier...trust i say that with a smiley face...Alhamdulillah...im not 'fighting' with anyone on this thread, let alone forum...it just fails me when i see a clear injustice among my brethren, but hey if you guys dont see it...Alhamdulillah...again i will say...Islam means Submission to the Will of God don't confuse it with my greeting of Salaam- which means peace...
Regarding Ibn Taymiyyah quoting above... does he mean that rebellion about any tyrant forbidden?
I would never accept this!
I've seen in Quran some places regarding corrupted rulers.
May be need some clarifications about.
Once again it remains the story with the cat fighting the bread.
How, killing innocent people make any retaliation towards those who creates wars?
They only are benefitting from those attacks, getting more power over the citizens.
Its sad everyone seem to be attached to dunya so you will make up the weirdest excuse...oh my soul....its clear you read and understand what you want, no matter what is being said, how sad is that?
I really can't water down Islam for the masses to understand...you can lead the camel to the water, you cant make him drink!!!
brother if the purpose of that post was to imply something then dont feel scared to say you believe so and so is khawarij...speak the truth and shame the devil!!!
Dont hide behind an invisible barrier...trust i say that with a smiley face...Alhamdulillah...im not 'fighting' with anyone on this thread, let alone forum...it just fails me when i see a clear injustice among my brethren, but hey if you guys dont see it...Alhamdulillah...again i will say...Islam means Submission to the Will of God don't confuse it with my greeting of Salaam- which means peace...
A scholar naming a person a name and me naming is two differnt things i said earlier i do not wanna call names
If i do that there will be no difference between me and an extremist (dont misunderstand im not refering to you just in genrral )
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