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    https://www.rt.com/news/383785-us-missiles-syrian-army/

    US is pushing it towards WW3. When you observe closely, they do not wait for proof or investigation who has done this. What does this say? This means, they KNOW Syrian Army has nothing to do with this. They have planned it themselves.

    Just look for example at Erdogan and the false flag coup. There was so called "coup"aka false flag coup and suddenly within 1 week a list of all Gulen supporters and Kurds etc was applied. I mean huh? How in the world can somebody in such a short amount of time have such a list? In other words he already had made up and investigated who were Gulen-supporters and needed so reason to get rid of them.

    This is EXACTLY what has happened right now in Syria.
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    Allah knows best who carried out the chemical weapons attack in syria, and after the "saddam's wmd" accusations, we know that we cannot rely on kaafir media reports alone. However, there is definitive proof that the american government used chemical weapons in vietnam and iraq, now the people of america and their allies have rushed to judgement and aggression, therefore it would not be unreasonable to punish america and her allies with acid rain. Request submitted. Hide under rocks america and allies.
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    Every time i read those horrible things, i am remember this..

    “This my Ummah, is a Ummah that has mercy upon it, ‘Marhooma’- a Ummah that has mercy that’s been wrapped in Mercies; there is no punishment for this Ummah in the Hereafter except their punishment that they experience in the Dunya — killing and death and dying, trials and tribulations, earthquakes and the like.” And the wording of Abu Dawud is : ‘This Ummah reminds of the Ummah, that Allaah has placed His mercy upon. This Ummah will not have any punishment in the Hereafter, this punishment is in this world with fitn, trials, tribulations and punishments and difficulties, and earthquakes and killings, murder, death.. like this."

    Source used: https://abdurrahman.org/2014/01/08/g...reater-reward/

    Indeed the punishment of this world has ALWAYS a relieve which is death, however the punishment of the hereafter...May Allah protect us from it and make it haram for us to taste even a microsecond of that punishment. Just thinking about it..there is no end..no death that will relieve you from the punishment. Then looking at what we Muslims are facing right now and have been facing for some time is like a walk in the park.
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    so so..the rats finally is out the bag one could say..

    https://www.rt.com/news/383832-turke...a-no-fly-zone/

    Often we need to look at the ones who will benefit from the attack..Turkey indeed will benefit from it tremendously to push their agenda of safe zone. Safe zone not to safeguard refugees, but to prevent Kurds uniting..in other words they don't care about refugees all they care about is nationalism. I have read that the Kurds also have said, let the safe zone be within Kurdish territory, however the Turks objected that. In other words, again they do not care about refugees all nationalism.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Simple_Person View Post
    https://www.rt.com/news/383785-us-missiles-syrian-army/

    US is pushing it towards WW3. When you observe closely, they do not wait for proof or investigation who has done this. What does this say? This means, they KNOW Syrian Army has nothing to do with this. They have planned it themselves.
    Based your information to the Russian news site, knowing that Russia supports Syrian army and president in this conflict, doesn´t give you all details. Don´t you think that news from Russia are nowadays very anti-USA and pro-Assad style?

    We don´t need to wait from the investigation too much - Russia will ensures that the evidencies they find will prove the friends of Russia (Assad and his army) are innocent like a new born babies for this gas attack.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb View Post
    Based your information to the Russian news site, knowing that Russia supports Syrian army and president in this conflict, doesn´t give you all details. Don´t you think that news from Russia are nowadays very anti-USA and pro-Assad style?

    We don´t need to wait from the investigation too much - Russia will ensures that the evidencies they find will prove the friends of Russia (Assad and his army) are innocent like a new born babies for this gas attack.
    I read RT, not because i like RT, but because till now all the other western media is telling me a story, but no evidence to back up what they are telling me. However even though i read the news on RT, doesn't mean i agree automatically. I ask questions. As said in my other posts, i follow logic, rationality and reason. I ask questions and follow that road.

    If the Syrian Army or Russia let's say have committed that chemical attack, IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!! Syrian Army has said they have given up all their chemical weapons, i take that with a grain of salt. However again, how stupid would they be to use chemical weapons if they are still having them.

    Look at this website
    https://isis.liveuamap.com/ (strange today it is kind of broken it seems)

    Anyways, there you can see all the continues victories and news feeds from each group. After the talks between Russia, Syrian Army, Turkey.. there was a peace treaty between them. However Turkish army was caged in and not be able to go further down south and conquer more territory. They wanted to go east and conquer manbij, however the Kurds gave certain amount of villages to the Syrian Army to act as a buffer zone between them and the Turks. So they were caged in. No victories further more. Other parts of Free Syrian Army and other groups also were losing or were not moving one bit. ISIS was losing ground, as you could have seen on the map (i hope it goes back online soon). Syrian Army with help of Russia was gaining territory as fast from ISIS as Kurds were gaining.

    So WHY ..WHY..WHY would they do such a stupid thing. I ask you sister, WHY would they do such a stupid thing by shooting themselves in the foot, while they were gaining victory like a hot knife through butter. It does NOT make sense.

    US and other NATO countries were also seeing that with the help of Russia they were gaining territory very fast and nobody able to stop them. The Kurds have signed treaty with Syrian Army to not attack each other..so no fight between them. So again THINK sister, this does NOT make sense.

    US says we have no doubt evidence that Syrian Army has used chemical attack on civilians, but till now i have not found any of this so called evidence, just like how Russia had intervened in US politics with Trump and Hillary during elections.

    So again i ask you the question, please do explain to me what is going on?? Because all what makes sense is either Turkey with US have planned this, or US alone has planned this, as both Turkey would be the winner(safe zone), Assad be removed (Turkey be winner, Gulf countries be winners) Russian navel base in tartar be removed (NATO be the winner)...Till now nothing else makes sense.

    I will be waiting for you observation and conclusion.
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    Motive is everything here, who gains?

    I have seen real credible evidence the so called rebels have use gas against civilians on numerous occasions, no problems with the 'International Community'..

    Regarding the Vid above Falluja the hidden massacre, when that happened, the journalists entered the city illegally in breach of their mandate, Later when they were driving to the airport with the evidence they were 'mistaken' for insurgents and killed, it was a miracle ( thank you God) one survived to tell the tale..Or so the story goes any way..The same press restrictions are now in place in Mosul, the world does not know the true horrors happening there right now..The perfect distraction just happened.

    Also, the British were allegedly the first to allegedly use chemical weapons deployed by air , in Iraq in the 1920s, i believe?

    Hypocrites the lot of them, Assad, Putin probably as well, but at least they are protecting the idea secularism, not sectarian divides as Zionism is.

    Muslims that follow the Prophet, look to how he settled internal conflict in the Charter of Medina, he advocated Secularism.

    While anything like fascism/sectarianism has its head above water the world will never know peace, the mask is coming off our corporate masters right now.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by beleiver View Post
    Motive is everything here, who gains?

    I have seen real credible evidence the so called rebels have use gas against civilians on numerous occasions, no problems with the 'International Community'..

    Regarding the Vid above Falluja the hidden massacre, when that happened, the journalists entered the city illegally in breach of their mandate, Later when they driving to the airport they were 'mistaken' for insurgents and killed, it was a miracle one survived to tell the tale..Or so the story goes any way..The same press restrictions are now in place in Mosul, the world does not know the true horrors happening there right now..

    Also, the British were allegedly the first to allegedly use chemical weapons deployed by air , in Iraq in the 1920s, i believe?

    Hypocrites the lot of them, Assad, Putin probably as well, but at least they are protecting the idea secularism, not sectarian divides as Zionism is.

    Muslims that follow the Prophet, look to how he settled internal conflict in the Charter of Medina, he advocated Secularism.
    Well he did not advocate secularism, he found common ground between the people as all the groups in Medina advocate morality and such. The other rules and such, Muslims were judged by their law, Jews by theirs, Christians by theirs. This is as far as i have read and known.
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    يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِن جَاءكُمْ فَاسِقٌ بِنَبَأٍ فَتَبَيَّنُوا أَن تُصِيبُوا قَوْمًا بِجَهَالَةٍ فَتُصْبِحُوا عَلَى مَا فَعَلْتُمْ نَادِمِينَ {6


    O you who believe! If a rebellious evil person comes to you with a news, verify it, lest you harm people in ignorance, and afterwards you become regretful to what you have done.
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    How 'bout bombing israel too.

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    format_quote Originally Posted by Simple_Person View Post

    If the Syrian Army or Russia let's say have committed that chemical attack, IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE!! Syrian Army has said they have given up all their chemical weapons, i take that with a grain of salt. However again, how stupid would they be to use chemical weapons if they are still having them.
    Should we believe that Syrian army tells the truth? They know that having and using chemical weapons is against international laws but why they would care about them as long as their have support of Russia behind them?
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    The whole situation is so ambiguous. There's nothing definitive is there ?
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Simple_Person View Post
    https://www.rt.com/news/383785-us-missiles-syrian-army/

    US is pushing it towards WW3. When you observe closely, they do not wait for proof or investigation who has done this. What does this say? This means, they KNOW Syrian Army has nothing to do with this. They have planned it themselves.

    Just look for example at Erdogan and the false flag coup. There was so called "coup"aka false flag coup and suddenly within 1 week a list of all Gulen supporters and Kurds etc was applied. I mean huh? How in the world can somebody in such a short amount of time have such a list? In other words he already had made up and investigated who were Gulen-supporters and needed so reason to get rid of them.

    This is EXACTLY what has happened right now in Syria.
    to me this is a false flag. they attacked the same base that syrian army uses to attac isis from.
    im not saying bashar is good, but US aint better
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    Should we believe that saddam and the iraqi army were telling the truth when they claimed that h.w.bush, bill clinton, and w bush were attempting to weaken their nation via lies, sanctions and funding of controlled opposition before an invasion.
    Should we believe that the turmoil in and weakening of syria was planned and engineered long before the obama presidency? That the secularist pentagon despots and their corrupt secularist puppet allies weren't trying to subvert the Mujahideen from attacks on their pirate secularist crusader forces and use them as pawns in syria?
    Allah knows best, but some things are obvious to us also..... let's look at the root of this chaos instead of being superficial.
    One word, kufr with all it's greed, selfishness, corruption and anarchy in God's kingdom.
    Noticably, the mjahideen who lack proper co-ordination end up being steered into helping to remove the only leaders in the region vocal in their protest against and condemnation of pirate invasions and the secularist zionist trolls installed in the regionfor the sake of keeping the turmoil and weakening of the entire region going in preparation of what's to come.
    They can't keep printing useless fiat dollars forever and forcing people to accept them and know very well that they cannot provide real resources for the amount of diminishing value fiat dollars in international circulation. Over-inflated weapons prices and sales to desperate and in turmoil nations are a temporary measure and the next stage is obvious to those who care to think -and it's global, and we're almost there, with the Islamic financial system being the only viable alternative (solution) to this fake, corrupt and abusive market, with mujahideen fee sabeel Allah being the biggest threat to puppet tyrants and established falsehood in their attempts at "reform" (deform).

    Let's see past the daily lamestream news (some of the drama being real - like bruce lee's scripted but "real" forced fight, but still scripted by the pupeteers, and man of tai chi), hill and knowlton, and bell pottinger.

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    "This separation of government from people, this widening of the gap, took place so gradually and so insensibly, each step disguised (perhaps not even intentionally) as a temporary emergency measure or associated with true patriotic allegiance or with real social purposes. And all the crises and reforms (real reforms, too) so occupied the people that they did not see the slow motion underneath, of the whole process of government growing remoter and remoter.

    "You will understand me when I say that my Middle High German was my life. It was all I cared about. I was a scholar, a specialist. Then, suddenly, I was plunged into all the new activity, as the university was drawn into the new situation; meetings, conferences, interviews, ceremonies, and, above all, papers to be filled out, reports, bibliographies, lists, questionnaires. And on top of that were the demands in the community, the things in which one had to, was ‘expected to’ participate that had not been there or had not been important before. It was all rigmarole, of course, but it consumed all one’s energies, coming on top of the work one really wanted to do. You can see how easy it was, then, not to think about fundamental things. One had no time."

    "Those," I said, "are the words of my friend the baker. ‘One had no time to think. There was so much going on.’"

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    "To live in this process is absolutely not to be able to notice it—please try to believe me—unless one has a much greater degree of political awareness, acuity, than most of us had ever had occasion to develop. Each step was so small, so inconsequential, so well explained or, on occasion, ‘regretted,’ that, unless one were detached from the whole process from the beginning, unless one understood what the whole thing was in principle, what all these ‘little measures’ that no ‘patriotic German’ could resent must some day lead to, one no more saw it developing from day to day than a farmer in his field sees the corn growing. One day it is over his head.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Islamic Soldier View Post
    to me this is a false flag. they attacked the same base that syrian army uses to attac isis from.
    im not saying bashar is good, but US aint better
    Exactly this is how we Muslims must think. From US to gulf states to Turkey and other NATO countries to ISIS to Free Syrian Army to the Kurds to Russia. None of them are fighting for Islamic principles.

    Some people might say there are groups that do fight for Islamic principles. My question to those guys..who is providing them weapons? Who is providing them food? Who is providing them bullets and clothing? Receiving those things from Turkey or US or any other parent-group says you are the dog of them. They tell you who to fight and who to not fight. Look at them now. Turkey has used Free Syrian Army to fight the Kurds...what happened to Assad?..so right now point to all the groups as criminals and have patience. I right now stand only by the people as nobody cares what happens with them. They are being killed by such attacks like this false flag. Their time will come no criminal gets free ticket from Day of Judgement.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Simple_Person View Post
    Exactly this is how we Muslims must think. From US to gulf states to Turkey and other NATO countries to ISIS to Free Syrian Army to the Kurds to Russia. None of them are fighting for Islamic principles.

    Some people might say there are groups that do fight for Islamic principles. My question to those guys..who is providing them weapons? Who is providing them food? Who is providing them bullets and clothing? Receiving those things from Turkey or US or any other parent-group says you are the dog of them. They tell you who to fight and who to not fight. Look at them now. Turkey has used Free Syrian Army to fight the Kurds...what happened to Assad?..so right now point to all the groups as criminals and have patience. I right now stand only by the people as nobody cares what happens with them. They are being killed by such attacks like this false flag. Their time will come no criminal gets free ticket from Day of Judgement.

    if they cared so much about babies and civilians being killed. why dont they ever attack israel? they do the same thing, and its just next to the syrian border. they used phosporus on civilians.
    May Allah reward the dead with Jannah,cause sooner or alter the knot they are making for us. will be used against them inshAllah. its promised
    but i dont know when its gonna happen. so far all the "islamist" movements are conspirators to me
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    يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِن جَاءكُمْ فَاسِقٌ بِنَبَأٍ فَتَبَيَّنُوا أَن تُصِيبُوا قَوْمًا بِجَهَالَةٍ فَتُصْبِحُوا عَلَى مَا فَعَلْتُمْ نَادِمِينَ {6


    O you who believe! If a rebellious evil person comes to you with a news, verify it, lest you harm people in ignorance, and afterwards you become regretful to what you have done.
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    Quran, Chapter 49, Verse 6




    How 'bout bombing israel too.

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    From one thing led me to another..and i ended up at cloning video. I was watching this video..



    Off course Allah knows best, but when watching it, i thought about the hadith of Allah(swt) telling Adam(as) to throw every 999 out of 1000 in to the hell fire.
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    As salamu alejkum wr wb,

    This thread shows the state of the ummah. Everything we cant understand its a conspiracy theory.
    "Why (the dog) Assad should do this? Hes gaining ground, no reason for him to do that".
    1.) The people in arab countrys (especially dicatators) arent as rational as the people in the west. Saddam too bombed 5000 kurds with chemical weaopon despite international criticism.
    2.) Theres NO syrian arab army anymore. The so called syrian army is a mix of hizbullshaytan, russia, iranian soldiers and generals, and a little bit syrian alawits.
    AND THESE SHIITE Armys hate sunnis so much, do you really think they care about the UN or something like that? They know they have russia on their back. So its no problem for them to use chemical weapons (and its not the first time).
    3.) The USA/Trump reaction is played. Before the attack, they called russia (and russia probably called assad/iran). So its just a show, to say "look we are defenders of humanity". The chemical attack was real (from assad al kalb and the shiit militias), but the reaction was just played.


    Some people might say there are groups that do fight for Islamic principles. My question to those guys..who is providing them weapons? Who is providing them food?
    Of course there are groups fighting for Islam and Sharia. But the whole stupid Ummah is against them. No single help for them, instead we blaming them day and night. And if u ever watched a operation video of those groups you will clearly see, how they get their weapons. So please stop this stupid conspiracy theories. Its easy to say theres no islamic group, but its hard to say there is. Why? Because then you have to accept and help them, what the most of the Ummah today are too afraid for.

    *sry for my bad english, i hope u get my point. Thanks
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    format_quote Originally Posted by Simple_Person View Post
    Exactly this is how we Muslims must think. From US to gulf states to Turkey and other NATO countries to ISIS to Free Syrian Army to the Kurds to Russia. None of them are fighting for Islamic principles.

    Some people might say there are groups that do fight for Islamic principles. My question to those guys..who is providing them weapons? Who is providing them food? Who is providing them bullets and clothing? Receiving those things from Turkey or US or any other parent-group says you are the dog of them. They tell you who to fight and who to not fight. Look at them now. Turkey has used Free Syrian Army to fight the Kurds...what happened to Assad?..so right now point to all the groups as criminals and have patience. I right now stand only by the people as nobody cares what happens with them. They are being killed by such attacks like this false flag. Their time will come no criminal gets free ticket from Day of Judgement.
    Truth is a bit different

    There do exist Islamic groups -corruption does exists & likewise we have witnessed good stories of pious mujahiDeen as Shuhada & their lives etc!

    The agenda is Khilafah of Mahdi,&its nearby!

    The funds they get by their booty,victories over bashar army & Khawarij armies & many bring wealth with their earnings,support from family & pious Muslims who support through wealth!
    As Jihad is with wealth too & know which group has agenda of Jihad & those groups esp HTS has it but also corrupted elements too.


    But no generalisation because its wrong to insult all with few bad elements as there have been awesome people who passed away Rh &still exists & its true because then who's going to be in Army of Mahdi when he arrives & is amongst victorious people ?

    Yes,it would be good people who strive hard & remained steadfast in hard times& with whole Ummah bashing...incl. Prisoners ,the pious scholars & people who did " dawah or captured mujahiDeen "
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    format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb View Post
    Should we believe that Syrian army tells the truth? They know that having and using chemical weapons is against international laws but why they would care about them as long as their have support of Russia behind them?
    Still doesnt make any sense..NATO seem hell bent on fighting Russia, the US said for the first time just a week ago they were no longer wanting to remove Assad..Assad and Russia might be oppressors but not that stupid, they couldn't win a war with Nato..

    Why no investigation like they do when the Ukraine army kills civilians, or the US, Saudi or Turkey kills civilians..They only dont bother and use violence when an anti Zionist state is alleged to kill civilians..


    Another thing, in 2013 the UN investigation of the same thing that didnt make sense then concluded all evidence pointed to the rebels killing civilians with chemical weapons..Which of course was mostly ignored by the media in general..

    The United Nations independent commission of inquiry on Syria has not yet seen evidence of government forces having used chemical weapons, which are banned under international law, said commission member Carla Del Ponte.
    "Our investigators have been in neighboring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated," Del Ponte said in an interview with Swiss-Italian television.
    "This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities," she added, speaking in Italian.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sy...94409Z20130505
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    People, please research iran-iraq war, see how both were badly weakened in manpower and economy, and how the secularist extremist americans along with the saudi and kuwaiti goverments supported saddam in using chemical weapons on civilians, how the secularists accused saddam of gassing kurds "a while back" as soon as he began showing a reconcialiatory stance toward iran, how bush senior sold his stakes in rumaila oil field companies accused of slant drilling 6 months before attacking iraq, how kuwait and saudi governments refused to waive the loans which saddam appeared to have expected would be waived, and began breaking the opec treaties and pumping oil from the joint border fields at a rate that would bring iraq to it's knees, how saddam told the arab league that the americans were trying to weaken the region, how he violently reacted to the unjustified and betraying overt provocations, and the rest is recent, how russian and chinese governments sell weapons to, then betray Muslim nations, then get huge contracts in the damaged countries..... whilst Muslims give blood in every case.
    Who on earth expects to hold land without being bombed out afterwards?
    We need snipers moving west.
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