I'm kinda tired of having to both defend against people who are racist against Arabs and Muslims from Islamaphobes online, who say we are terrorists, backwards, close-minded, racists etc, while on the other hand every so often having to hear Muslims with bigoted attitudes, that they don't even recognise as being bigoted.
For example, once at work a Pakistani guy said that he would never get married to a non-Pakistani, and he was totally oblivious to how racist his comment was, even when I spelt it out to him. He just couldn't get it. Plus he was telling this to me, a non-Pakistani, lol.
On another occasion (and I am soooo sorry for constantly mentioning nationalities in this topic, but I am just trying to illustrate a point) my Palestinian American colleague was talking about his wife (she's a Palestinian born and raised in Jordan) who made a casual comment about how shocked she was that their White European neighbour, I think a British or Aussie convert, could get married to a Somali girl. If I remember correctly she said something like 'How could they get married. He is so white and she is so black'. Both of us, who have grown up in the West were just baffled with the casual racism (and colorism) that easily slips out of the mouths of people around us, and from all nationalities. We are in the UAE btw.
Now I know for a fact, not all Muslims are racist, and I like to think that the majority of us are not (at least in my circle of friends), but we do seem to be diseased community with this issue, and no one ever likes to talk about it, without getting defensive.
I'm kinda tired of having to both defend against people who are racist against Arabs and Muslims from Islamaphobes online, who say we are terrorists, backwards, close-minded, racists etc, while on the other hand every so often having to hear Muslims with bigoted attitudes, that they don't even recognise as being bigoted.
For example, once at work a Pakistani guy said that he would never get married to a non-Pakistani, and he was totally oblivious to how racist his comment was, even when I spelt it out to him. He just couldn't get it. Plus he was telling this to me, a non-Pakistani, lol.
On another occasion (and I am soooo sorry for constantly mentioning nationalities in this topic, but I am just trying to illustrate a point) my Palestinian American colleague was talking about his wife (she's a Palestinian born and raised in Jordan) who made a casual comment about how shocked she was that their White European neighbour, I think a British or Aussie convert, could get married to a Somali girl. If I remember correctly she said something like 'How could they get married. He is so white and she is so black'. Both of us, who have grown up in the West were just baffled with the casual racism (and colorism) that easily slips out of the mouths of people around us, and from all nationalities. We are in the UAE btw.
Now I know for a fact, not all Muslims are racist, and I like to think that the majority of us are not (at least in my circle of friends), but we do seem to be diseased community with this issue, and no one ever likes to talk about it, without getting defensive.
Rant done.
Firstly the question is phrased wrongly as you cannot blanket the entire Ummah for racism.
A better way of asking it would have been "Does racism exist within the Ummah"
The short answer is yes.
Your annotation about the Pakistani example is also an incorrect (very common might I add) between Race Identity & National Identity.
Example: Asian is a race group. Pakistani is a Nationality. Before Pakistan was created what was the RACE of those people residing in Pakistan now? They were regarded Asian.
So your question and your example doesn't go hand in hand. The example you giving within your question is one of Nationality NOT Race. In the same way a persons RACE cannot be Nigerian. His nationality is Nigerian but his Race is African.
So the problem is actually worse than you think- not only has many Muslims become Racist, but also have become Nationalistic.
It has a place in Islam for identification, but thats where it starts and stops.
Depends on whether you want to believe the rationale of the widely promulgated Jewish-instigated pro-race mixing "studies".
I totally expected a conspiratorial response of this sort, and it makes sense from a person touting Germanic heritage/traits and racial superiority. Go figure.
There have been many other studies though which have shown completely opposite conclusions, conclusions which have shown that race mixing can lead to a whole raft of medical diseases and various degenerate conditions.
Granted, it was a quick Google search, not in-depth research, but the only places I see with statements of studies or outcomes like this seem to be white supremacist websites. Not surprising.
There can be many other reasons too, including incompatibility in the overall physical SIZE of races. For example, if I was to hypothetically miscegenate with a diminutive Asiatic female, there is a very high likelihood that the pregnancy would pose very dire risks for the baby and the mother herself. Because her "baby" would be MUCH bigger than the size of the baby she would have produced had she bred with a male of her own race (and therefore appropriate size), it would make if extremely difficult if not impossible for the baby to go through the pelvic canal, therefore requiring a caesarean section. And because the baby would be so big it would be also highly likely that a premature birth would occur, putting risk to the baby and also the mother herself. This is just one good reason of many WHY I need big GERMANIC woman (rather than a diminutive Asiatic) to breed with. Females of my own race actually have the PHYSICAL CAPABLITY!
And a sufficiently large man and sufficiently small woman of the same race can have the same problem. It is more a matter of size, not race. And while a large white male and a small Asian female may lead to a caesarian section, it doesn't actually seem to increase the risk all that much (roughly 5% higher in Asian F/White M versus White F/White M, and preTerm is actually down .1% for Asian F/White M over White F/White M at 37 week while while preTerm >32 weeks is down in favor of Asian F/White M by .09%) by the study I'm looking at, definitely not enough to merit full-blown racial segregation in marriage. If anything, and being generous, it might make a person a size-ist ("No 6'3" son of mine is going to marry a five-foot-nothing woman, dagnabbit!"), not racist. Besides, no one says you'd have to limit yourself to a small Asian female, why not a robust African woman? No size concerns there. And on the other end of thing, a six-foot Asian man built like a wall may need some sturdy Germanic woman to bear his mighty children without increased risk of a troubled birth due to a potentially too-small Asian woman.
As to your comment about "adding variety to gene pools" there is actually MORE than enough genetic variation WITHIN most races to ensure a healthy and thriving existence WITHOUT having to revert to the radical and degenerate behaviour of miscegenation.
While I certainly don't agree with the descriptors you've used for interracial relationships, sure, there is enough variety for the races to stay self-contained (at least for the time being), however, it doesn't change that mixed-race children tend to increase the fitness of the species by adding even more variety.
If you say that I am being "racist" for forbidding miscegenation then obviously you would have no disgust if I were to say that I would like to try and breed with a sheep or a dog. If you would express disgust then you TOO are a racist!
Wow. That is one major false equivalence you have there. And if you truly equate non-white races to non-human animals as you've just implied, then it simply further goes to show how far down the white supremacist rabbit hole you've gone.
why do you care so much about your who your kids would marry? i dont think that Germanic people are gonna die out because of your kids spouses?
seems like a bad attempt to cover up racism.
You underestimate the dire danger the Germanic races are actually in. We are being quickly driven to extinction, mainly through three main forms of assault: Feminism and homosexuality as foisted on us by the Jewish controlled governments and the mainstream media they also own. This leads to increasingly smaller and smaller families. The third genocidal factor is miscegenation which since the beginning of the 21st century has become chronically RIFE, due to the hordes of "immigrants" and "refugees" that have barged their way into Western countries like an unstoppable juggernaut.
You seem to have some concern about me forbidding my offspring miscegenating. But you see, the fact that I utterly forbid it is pretty well immaterial anyway, given that my offspring have an even more fierce repulsion of miscegenation than even I do! So even if I hypothetically allowed it, THEY wouldn't ANYWAY. They regard miscegenation as a mental illness, so you are wasting your time trying to make ME change my mind about my repulsion of miscegenation.
format_quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1
Did you really just compare having children with a human being of another race to having children with an ANIMAL.
Pretty well, not that I have a lower opinion of an animal. I am afterall an animal myself.
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Honestly that's enough info to tell me your a racist. No matter how much your gonna deny it, you are one.
So be it, have it your way, I'm a racist then. Doesn't really bother me.
format_quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1
Deen is the sole factor to determine your kid's potential future spouse of. Allah swt knows whats gonna happen to us,what if He ordains your child to marry another muslim of a different race?.
But Allah swt has not ordained my offspring to want to miscegenate. If He had then He would not have made my offspring feel repulsed by miscegenation even more than I am. So don't go stressing yourself over it.
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Honestly your whole argument is racism trying to be hidden with some fancy words or "logic".
And once again nationalism,racism etc are haram in Islam
I feel you and some others are trying to drive me away from Islam because everything I strongly defend is (supposedly) "un-Islamic". ::Sigh:: ....maybe you are right, maybe I am just not fit to be a Muslim anymore...maybe I never was? Am I just not fit because I am simply impossible to discipline and correct?
You underestimate the dire danger the Germanic races are actually in. We are being quickly driven to extinction, mainly through three main forms of assault: Feminism and homosexuality as foisted on us by the Jewish controlled governments and the mainstream media they also own. This leads to increasingly smaller and smaller families. The third genocidal factor is miscegenation which since the beginning of the 21st century has become chronically RIFE, due to the hordes of "immigrants" and "refugees" that have barged their way into Western countries like an unstoppable juggernaut.
You seem to have some concern about me forbidding my offspring miscegenating. But you see, the fact that I utterly forbid it is pretty well immaterial anyway, given that my offspring have an even more fierce repulsion of miscegenation than even I do! So even if I hypothetically allowed it, THEY wouldn't ANYWAY. They regard miscegenation as a mental illness, so you are wasting your time trying to make ME change my mind about my repulsion of miscegenation.
Pretty well, not that I have a lower opinion of an animal. I am afterall an animal myself.
So be it, have it your way, I'm a racist then. Doesn't really bother me.
But Allah swt has not ordained my offspring to want to miscegenate. If He had then He would not have made my offspring feel repulsed by miscegenation even more than I am. So don't go stressing yourself over it.
I feel you and some others are trying to drive me away from Islam because everything I strongly defend is (supposedly) "un-Islamic". ::Sigh:: ....maybe you are right, maybe I am just not fit to be a Muslim anymore...maybe I never was? Am I just not fit because I am simply impossible to discipline and correct?
Okay,im not going to agree with your stupid reasoning,much like you clearly don't agree with mines. However your kids views are terrible as ALL humans are God's creation.
And lastly no one knows what God is going to ordain, Maybe He is going to ordain your children to marry interracially? Who knows?
And a sufficiently large man and sufficiently small woman of the same race can have the same problem. It is more a matter of size, not race.
That is not really true. Members of the same race (at least of mine) are of very close size anyway. If there is large anomalies in physical size between members of the same race it points to there being either the taint of miscegenation involved, or there is some serious medical condition at play. Men of my race are all roughly the same size as each other. Our women are all roughly the same size as each other. My race is BIG, therefore we simply have no such thing as puny diminutive women. They are non existent, therefore there is never (or at least extremely rarely) a problem with mothers carrying oversized babies.
format_quote Originally Posted by MisterK
And while a large white male and a small Asian female may lead to a caesarian section, it doesn't actually seem to increase the risk all that much (roughly 5% higher in Asian F/White M versus White F/White M, and preTerm is actually down .1% for Asian F/White M over White F/White M at 37 week while while preTerm >32 weeks is down in favor of Asian F/White M by .09%) by the study I'm looking at, definitely not enough to merit full-blown racial segregation in marriage. If anything, and being generous, it might make a person a size-ist ("No 6'3" son of mine is going to marry a five-foot-nothing woman, dagnabbit!"), not racist.
True, it is size-based, BUT it is ALSO race based too, given that different races are of different physical sizes to begin with. I don't care how "low" you claim the risk to be of premature births and caesarean sections are when white males miscegenate with Asiatic females. NO risk is worth it, as far as I'm concerned, which is why I strictly forbid it. Besides, even if I was able to successfully miscegenate with a diminutive Asiatic female completely risk free of premature births and caesarean sections, I wouldn't want to ANYWAY because I regard puny diminutive builds to look emasculated. It looks particularly bad in males. Yes, those soft-featured little races look pretty and cute, but I don't want my OWN race to partly BECOME that as well. I want to instead produce sons that LOOK like boys, BIG and STRONG and ROBUST, NOT sons who all my friends are going to think look like puny effeminate-featured homosexuals.
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Besides, no one says you'd have to limit yourself to a small Asian female, why not a robust African woman? No size concerns there. And on the other end of thing, a six-foot Asian man built like a wall may need some sturdy Germanic woman to bear his mighty children without increased risk of a troubled birth due to a potentially too-small Asian woman.
While I am opposed outright to miscegenation, it is however true that a Zulu is WAY more racially compatible with Germanic (because they are both big and strong). But this is still no good reason for miscegenation. Miscegenating a Sub-Saharan with a Germanic is obviously nowhere as gross and repulsive and incompatible as hybridizing a Germanic with an Asiatic, but that doesn't mean to say though that mixing a Sub-Saharan with a Germanic should be encouraged. Allah swt created the races to look different for a REASON, otherwise He would not have done so to begin with.
format_quote Originally Posted by MisterK
While I certainly don't agree with the descriptors you've used for interracial relationships, sure, there is enough variety for the races to stay self-contained (at least for the time being), however, it doesn't change that mixed-race children tend to increase the fitness of the species by adding even more variety.
MY race doesn't NEED any more "variety". We in our self-contained existence have more than enough variety to not need to miscegenate. We are perfect enough as it is!
Okay,im not going to agree with your stupid reasoning,much like you clearly don't agree with mines. However your kids views are terrible as ALL humans are God's creation.
And lastly no one knows what God is going to ordain, Maybe He is going to ordain your children to marry interracially? Who knows?
You are suggesting that God will intervene and change my offsprings' stance on miscegenation? Well, I'll believe that when I SEE it!
Yea I'm sure anyone who doesn't agree with you is a liberal, zionist, and whatever else you like to deflect your issues on. So "skin color" hit a nerve with you, yet you still failed to recognize that everything you're saying still cannot at all be supported by Islam.
Skin colour did not "hit a nerve" with me at all, so why did you say that? I was merely pointing out that skin colour is NOT a synonym of race.
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Umm...obviously they won't mean nothing to you once you're dead...because you'll be DEAD. It's the last thing you'll have to worry about.
Obviously I can't care about the survival of my race after I'm dead, but that doesn't mean to say that I therefore shouldn't care about anything at all because, hey one day I'll be dead anyway. That is more a nihilistic attitude, rather than Islamic.
format_quote Originally Posted by *charisma*
WHen you prefer that your daughters remain unmarried than to marry someone outside of their race, what's that say?? That anyone of any other race is NOT WORTHY of being married to your family, that they are inferior for marriage.
I didn't say they are "not worthy" or "inferior" to my race. I said they are INCOMPATIBLE. Totally different things.
format_quote Originally Posted by *charisma*
Whatever way you want to look at it, it still comes back to you putting race first before deen. Because "marriage" is not a race thing..its an religious commitment. In fact when it comes to marrying one's daughter, deen is the very FIRST thing one considers, NOT RACE.
Deen might be put first before race, but that doesn't mean to say that it should therefore override the importance of preserving race. There is no reason why BOTH factors cannot be observed when considering marriage.
format_quote Originally Posted by *charisma*
So if his deen is great, and your daughter is interested, and he has the ability to take care of her, you will still NOT accept just because his race is different. That's called racism.
Well if it makes you happy, I'm racist. So be it.
format_quote Originally Posted by *charisma*
So while you may perceive him as "a great muslim" he's still never going to be good enough for your daughters in marriage, which makes him by default, inferior for marriage in your eyes based solely on race.
Again it's nothing to do with being "inferior". Incompatibility is not inferiority just as oranges are no more inferior to apples.
format_quote Originally Posted by *charisma*
MOST but not ALL. So if a different race wanted to marry your daughters who have "MOST" of the qualities that you want to preserve in your own race, will that be a problem?? Cuz then at that point you don't have an excuse, right?
I don't want to preserve "most" of the qualities of my race, I want to preserve ALL of the qualities.
format_quote Originally Posted by *charisma*
ALso what superior advantages are you speaking of??? What do you expect your race to continue doing for years and years and years to come where they require preserving their size and strength? Chop down trees and race down the river?
Obviously physical strength can be a major advantage in day to day life. It's not just about being able to lift heavy things etc, but it's also about the physical look ITSELF, the big strong sturdy masculine morphology. I most particularly wont race mix with soft-featured cute small-boned diminutive races because I don't want all my friends to laugh at me and say "Certainly not a like-father-like-son situation is it?! Not big and strong like their dad, are they? LOL! They look so puny and effeminate that we actually mistook them for girls! Hahahahaaa!!"
format_quote Originally Posted by *charisma*
I'm sure you can find your size. Most redneck racists are obese, dumb-dumbs so if THEY can find racist tees in their size, I'm sure a man who is so proud of his large germanic frame will be able to as well!
Me and my family are not obese. We are big and strong and muscular and athletic and in shape. It is true that there are members of my race who carry a few extra pounds, but better to be like that than to be chinless, insipid, puny and effeminate featured, so much so that males look like shemales. Better to look like a fat redneck than a skinny gay homosexual!
Skin colour did not "hit a nerve" with me at all, so why did you say that? I was merely pointing out that skin colour is NOT a synonym of race.
Obviously I can't care about the survival of my race after I'm dead, but that doesn't mean to say that I therefore shouldn't care about anything at all because, hey one day I'll be dead anyway. That is more a nihilistic attitude, rather than Islamic.
I didn't say they are "not worthy" or "inferior" to my race. I said they are INCOMPATIBLE. Totally different things.
Deen might be put first before race, but that doesn't mean to say that it should therefore override the importance of preserving race. There is no reason why BOTH factors cannot be observed when considering marriage.
Well if it makes you happy, I'm racist. So be it.
Again it's nothing to do with being "inferior". Incompatibility is not inferiority just as oranges are no more inferior to apples.
I don't want to preserve "most" of the qualities of my race, I want to preserve ALL of the qualities.
Obviously physical strength can be a major advantage in day to day life. It's not just about being able to lift heavy things etc, but it's also about the physical look ITSELF, the big strong sturdy masculine morphology. I most particularly wont race mix with soft-featured cute small-boned diminutive races because I don't want all my friends to laugh at me and say "Certainly not a like-father-like-son situation is it?! Not big and strong like their dad, are they? LOL! They look so puny and effeminate that we actually mistook them for girls! Hahahahaaa!!"
Me and my family are not obese. We are big and strong and muscular and athletic and in shape. It is true that there are members of my race who carry a few extra pounds, but better to be like that than to be chinless, insipid, puny and effeminate featured, so much so that males look like shemales. Better to look like a fat redneck than a skinny gay homosexual!
So you think that people that are not Germanic/mixed are skinny and 'look like homosexuals" Well your wrong, a relative of mine is half white/arab and believe me he is not skinny,neither does he look feminine. Rest of my family are not Germanic and we are not skinny thank you very much
So you think that people that are not Germanic/mixed are skinny and 'look like homosexuals" Well your wrong, a relative of mine is half white/arab and believe me he is not skinny,neither does he look feminine. Rest of my family are not Germanic and we are not skinny thank you very much
Read me properly. I didn't say all non Germanic races look like diminutive puny gay homosexuals. I said some of them do. And those racial types are what I am most averse to miscegenating with as I don't want to produce sons who look like that. I want them to be sturdy and strong and masculine featured.
Read me properly. I didn't say all non Germanic races look like diminutive puny gay homosexuals. I said some of them do. And those racial types are what I am most averse to miscegenating with as I don't want to produce sons who look like that. I want them to be sturdy and strong and masculine featured.
format_quote Originally Posted by Karl
You underestimate the dire danger the Germanic races are actually in. We are being quickly driven to extinction, mainly through three main forms of assault: Feminism and homosexuality as foisted on us by the Jewish controlled governments and the mainstream media they also own. This leads to increasingly smaller and smaller families. The third genocidal factor is miscegenation which since the beginning of the 21st century has become chronically RIFE, due to the hordes of "immigrants" and "refugees" that have barged their way into Western countries like an unstoppable juggernaut.
You do realize that your philosophy is close to "Nazism" which has failed miserably, don't you? The only genocide that I am aware of with regards to the Germans is the one they committed against the Jews with dumb arguments such as yours. Do you want me to remind you of what the consequences were? I'll remind you... First, the Jews certainly did not disappear. Second, the Germans probably lost the war as a result (instead of sending military supplies to the Eastern front, they were sending Jews to the gas chambers... not a very smart move to do in the middle of a war if you ask me). Third, the Germans were quite embarrassed after the war and could not explain what the heck they had done. Not conducive to a lot of German pride, now, is it?
Stop being a bitter, butt-hurt German whiner. I know that you liked your warring grandpa Adolf a lot, but do yourself a favor and realize that in Islam, there is the concept of "predestination", and it is clear that the Germans were predestined to lose the war, and badly at that. Sleep on this... Food for your twisted thoughts.
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You do realize that your philosophy is close to "Nazism" which has failed miserably, don't you? The only genocide that I am aware of with regards to the Germans is the one they committed against the Jews with dumb arguments such as yours. Do you want me to remind you of what the consequences were? I'll remind you... First, the Jews certainly did not disappear. Second, the Germans probably lost the war as a result (instead of sending military supplies to the Eastern front, they were sending Jews to the gas chambers... not a very smart move to do in the middle of a war if you ask me). Third, the Germans were quite embarrassed after the war and could not explain what the heck they had done. Not conducive to a lot of German pride, now, is it?
Stop being a bitter, butt-hurt German whiner. I know that you liked your warring grandpa Adolf a lot, but do yourself a favor and realize that in Islam, there is the concept of "predestination", and it is clear that the Germans were predestined to lose the war, and badly at that. Sleep on this... Food for your twisted thoughts.
The Nazis also rounded up and exterminated homosexuals along with the Jews (and others), so he's on full pace to join the Fourth Reich if they ever try and repeat history. The majority of Germans have tried to move on from this incredible dark spot on their history, but clearly some backwards thinking people still cling to it.
If you want to see more of what he is talking about regarding genocide, Google "White Genocide" if you dare. You'll find yourself down the white supremacist/Neo-Nazi side of the internet very fast. It's a nonsense conspiracy theory that there is an active agenda in place to destroy white people their interracial relations. That, since the non-white races can't physically destroy the white race, they will breed them out of existence through interracial relations. It's a rallying cry of racist and xenophobic white people that can't handle a changing cultural demographic. Mixed families are a natural by-product of a connected global community, and many people fear change.
I also wouldn't be surprised if some part of it, even if not an overtly conscious part of it, is the realization whites have historically and on average treated non-white races like garbage, and now that they are on their way to being a minority in what were once almost entirely white nations, the fear of being treated how they treated others comes into account.
The Nazis also rounded up and exterminated homosexuals along with the Jews (and others), so he's on full pace to join the Fourth Reich if they ever try and repeat history. The majority of Germans have tried to move on from this incredible dark spot on their history, but clearly some backwards thinking people still cling to it.
I would have thought that you being a "Muslim" would have been one of the last to be all concerned over the killing of homosexuals and Jews. In the Quran it says that the Jews are a cursed race and that if one encounters a homosexual indulging in homosexual depravity to kill them, and to not allow a homosexual into one's house, so I find it odd why you would actually come to their defence! The Nazis were also in allegiance with the Muslim world as well and were allied with countries such as Turkey. They even had Islamic SS divisions, and were even allies with the Japanese and Hindu forces opposed to the British Empire! So it is strange how so many of you always go on about Nazis being "racist". Yes, some White nationalists are openly racist; the majority aren't though, but we do however have a strong stance that the different races should remain in their own homelands.
format_quote Originally Posted by MisterK
If you want to see more of what he is talking about regarding genocide, Google "White Genocide" if you dare. You'll find yourself down the white supremacist/Neo-Nazi side of the internet very fast. It's a nonsense conspiracy theory that there is an active agenda in place to destroy white people their interracial relations. That, since the non-white races can't physically destroy the white race, they will breed them out of existence through interracial relations..
White genocide is not a "nonsense conspiracy", it is a TRUE conspiracy to which some of the more brazenly conceited sneering Jews have even openly ADMITTED to. I can give you an almost endless list of names but just for starters check out the extremely enthusiastic pro-miscegenating comments made by Jews such as Rabbi Rabbinovich, Nikolaus Sarkozy and François Hollande. Jews like that OPENLY admit their plan for mass miscegenation, and some Jews have even advocated mandatory miscegenation laws! Jews have been secretly plotting the destruction of the Germanic races for a very long time, and we only need to take a look at the speech given by Rabbi Rabbinovich at the Emergency Council of European Rabbis in Budapest, Hungary on January 12, 1952, In the following excerpt he says:
Forbid the Whites to mate with Whites. The White Women must cohabit with members of the dark races, the White Men with black women. Thus the White Race will disappear, for the mixing of the dark with the White means the end of the White Man, and our most dangerous enemy will become only a memory. We shall embark upon an era of ten thousand years of peace and plenty, the Pax Judaica, and our race will rule undisputed over the world. Our superior intelligence will easily enable us to retain mastery over a world of dark peoples.
format_quote Originally Posted by MisterK
It's a rallying cry of racist and xenophobic white people that can't handle a changing cultural demographic. Mixed families are a natural by-product of a connected global community, and many people fear change.
Mixed families are a natural by-product of a connected Global community?? Perfectly spoken like a raving globalist Bolshevik! You like to rationalize and justify Asiatic and African mass-immigration into Europe by employing sly Marxist type rhetoric, but I bet the vast majority of Asians and Africans would NOT take kindly if the tables were suddenly turned and us Germanic races suddenly gave you a taste of your own medicine and swarmed en masse into Asia and Africa by the horde loads. You will deny it, but I know full well that you would NOT tolerate that and demand us to go back to our own countries where we belong! You only play all your "global community" nonsense when you come to OUR lands but I bet my bottom dollar that you would become very nationalist all of a sudden if we were to all move to YOUR lands!
Well I agree with you entirely on THAT. Jews always like to grossly play down their numbers, and a global population of "13 million Jews" often keeps being claimed by Jews themselves. However, the immense power and sheer overwhelming global influence your ilk command suggests your numbers are much MUCH higher than that though. Some people have estimated your numbers to be as high as well over a billion globally.
I would have thought that you being a "Muslim" would have been one of the last to be all concerned over the killing of homosexuals and Jews. In the Quran it says that the Jews are a cursed race and that if one encounters a homosexual indulging in homosexual depravity to kill them, and to not allow a homosexual into one's house, so I find it odd why you would actually come to their defence! The Nazis were also in allegiance with the Muslim world as well and were allied with countries such as Turkey. They even had Islamic SS divisions, and were even allies with the Japanese and Hindu forces opposed to the British Empire! So it is strange how so many of you always go on about Nazis being "racist". Yes, some White nationalists are openly racist; the majority aren't though, but we do however have a strong stance that the different races should remain in their own homelands.
White genocide is not a "nonsense conspiracy", it is a TRUE conspiracy to which some of the more brazenly conceited sneering Jews have even openly ADMITTED to. I can give you an almost endless list of names but just for starters check out the extremely enthusiastic pro-miscegenating comments made by Jews such as Rabbi Rabbinovich, Nikolaus Sarkozy and François Hollande. Jews like that OPENLY admit their plan for mass miscegenation, and some Jews have even advocated mandatory miscegenation laws! Jews have been secretly plotting the destruction of the Germanic races for a very long time, and we only need to take a look at the speech given by Rabbi Rabbinovich at the Emergency Council of European Rabbis in Budapest, Hungary on January 12, 1952, In the following excerpt he says:
Forbid the Whites to mate with Whites. The White Women must cohabit with members of the dark races, the White Men with black women. Thus the White Race will disappear, for the mixing of the dark with the White means the end of the White Man, and our most dangerous enemy will become only a memory. We shall embark upon an era of ten thousand years of peace and plenty, the Pax Judaica, and our race will rule undisputed over the world. Our superior intelligence will easily enable us to retain mastery over a world of dark peoples.
Mixed families are a natural by-product of a connected Global community?? Perfectly spoken like a raving globalist Bolshevik! You like to rationalize and justify Asiatic and African mass-immigration into Europe by employing sly Marxist type rhetoric, but I bet the vast majority of Asians and Africans would NOT take kindly if the tables were suddenly turned and us Germanic races suddenly gave you a taste of your own medicine and swarmed en masse into Asia and Africa by the horde loads. You will deny it, but I know full well that you would NOT tolerate that and demand us to go back to our own countries where we belong! You only play all your "global community" nonsense when you come to OUR lands but I bet my bottom dollar that you would become very nationalist all of a sudden if we were to all move to YOUR lands!
I'm in a hurry, I may come back to this later for a more proper reply, so, bullet point style;
*Hitler and the Nazis were all about the Aryan ideal, the German übermensch, once they were a dominant super power if they had won WW2, they likely would not have stopped, eventually turning on their allies for a global Aryan dominance.
*Please highlight for me exactly where in the Quran is says to kill gay people, as I don't recall that being in it, and can't seem to find it. Maybe I missed it?
*Rabbi-Emanuel Rabinovich, and his speech you quoted, appears to be a hoax perpetrated by an anti semite named Eustace Mullins, and doesn't actually appear to exist.
*I was born and raised in the United States, not Africa or Asia. I still live in the US. I despise nationalism, no matter what nation it is for. It is a pox on humanity.
@Karl , whoah! On top of being crazy, you are quite paranoid! Now tell me this: how do I know that YOU are not one of the billion of "evil" Jews out there?
P.S. I love how everybody you disagree with is a "Jew".
It's pretty obvious I am not a Jew. To begin with, I don't look Jewish, I look fully Germanic. Furthermore, I have also had my genetics tested to see what my background was and if I might have other Germanic blood in me. There is some degree of crossover from another Germanic race, but certainly no African or Asiatic.
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P.S. #2: No offense to your great race, but have you ever seen how a strong Germanic man handles the Middle-Eastern desert with temperatures above 104F/40C? I'll tell you: by turning all pink in the face like a little piggy, having a heat stroke, drinking noisily 2 or more gallons of water, and whimpering like a little baby. So much greatness for the special Germanic race!!!
Oh I agree there, Germanics are most certainly not suited to hot climates, although I know full well that being thrown into a stinking hot climate would leave me exhausted, it would not make me "whimper like a baby"!
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I am adding this 2nd point in just to point out that people have adapted to some extent to their environments, so this explains the (small) physiological differences between the races.
Some races have "small" physiological differences, but usually only when the race is similar (for example, when comparing a Viking with a Dutchman, or an Indian with a Somalian), but disparate races do certainly show SIGNIFICANT physiological differences (for example, a Viking compared to an Indonesian or a Saxon compared to a Thai).
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It has nothing to do with the "purity" or "greatness" of a race. No offense, but Germans are no more special than Jews or Gypsies or Gays (though "gay" is not a race - and technically, Jews and Germans are not a race neither -,
I never said that Germans are any more special than Jews or Gypsies (aka Hindustanis), but that doesn't mean to say that there aren't those of us who don't want to have these aliens living in our country. I am not against them coming as tourists and coming as traders, but residing permanently, no. It's true that Jews are not a race as those who are adherents of Judaism actually come from a collection of Asiatic races. It is also true that Germans aren't a single race, they are actually a collection of Germanic raceS. It was actually the Romans who started referring generically to the Germanic races collectively as "the Germans", but each respective race didn't actually refer to themselves as Germans, but rather, by the name of their own individual race.
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but I have heard that Germany is one of the best places for homosexuality in the world with lots of gay clubs, bars, saunas and whatnot).
This degeneracy of Europe is of course no wonder. Germany, and by extension, most of Europe has been politically and culturally controlled by Jews since their conquest of Europe at the end of WWII. Almost everything we are inculcated with, whether it be in the realm of moral instruction or whatever, the Jews fanatically and incessantly foist on us. That's why you will often see people refer to modern day Europe as ZOG (Zionist Occupied Governments).
*Hitler and the Nazis were all about the Aryan ideal, the German übermensch, once they were a dominant super power if they had won WW2, they likely would not have stopped, eventually turning on their allies for a global Aryan dominance.
One thing I'll admit the Nazis didn't get right was the idea that Germanics are "Aryans". The TRUE Aryans are actually Iranian, not Germanic at all. Unlike the Iranians, us Germanics didn't even have an advanced civilization or even a written language until quite late. But whether or not the Nazis would have turned on their allies once the won the war is of course anyone's guess.
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*Rabbi-Emanuel Rabinovich, and his speech you quoted, appears to be a hoax perpetrated by an anti semite named Eustace Mullins, and doesn't actually appear to exist.
"Appear"? This is because Jews go out of their way to propagate the notion that conspiracies such as this including the Protocols of the Elders of Zion etc are all merely "frauds". You are within your right to agree with them if that makes you feel happy, but it still doesn't change that fact that whether these various conspiracies are nothing but "forgeries" is irrelevant anyway, simply because the diabolical agendas in them have actually come to be put into implementation! You also cannot deny the open declarations made by many Jews today (Soros, Sarkozy etc etc) calling for many of the things mentioned in the "forgeries" (including genociding the white races through the means of feminism, homosexuality and race mixing).
format_quote Originally Posted by MisterK
*I was born and raised in the United States, not Africa or Asia. I still live in the US. I despise nationalism, no matter what nation it is for. It is a pox on humanity.
Yeah, that's what any lefty liberal will always say!
It's pretty obvious I am not a Jew. To begin with, I don't look Jewish, I look fully Germanic. Furthermore, I have also had my genetics tested to see what my background was and if I might have other Germanic blood in me. There is some degree of crossover from another Germanic race, but certainly no African or Asiatic.
That's what you say. We haven't seen your pictures and we haven't seen you genetic tests results.
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Oh I agree there, Germanics are most certainly not suited to hot climates, although I know full well that being thrown into a stinking hot climate would leave me exhausted, it would not make me "whimper like a baby"!
I'm sure it would. Come and visit!
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Some races have "small" physiological differences, but usually only when the race is similar (for example, when comparing a Viking with a Dutchman, or an Indian with a Somalian), but disparate races do certainly show SIGNIFICANT physiological differences (for example, a Viking compared to an Indonesian or a Saxon compared to a Thai).
Not true. It is well known that the genetic differences within two members of the same race are often greater than the genetic difference between the average of two races. Read this article (actual science): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1893020/
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This degeneracy of Europe is of course no wonder. Germany, and by extension, most of Europe has been politically and culturally controlled by Jews since their conquest of Europe at the end of WWII. Almost everything we are inculcated with, whether it be in the realm of moral instruction or whatever, the Jews fanatically and incessantly foist on us. That's why you will often see people refer to modern day Europe as ZOG (Zionist Occupied Governments).
The Jews "conquested" Europe since the end of WWII? Well, all I have to say is that for a group of people who were being sent to the gas chambers, they came back with a vengeance if your conspiracy theory were true. Frankly, if this were (hypothetically-speaking) the case, I think it would be a good punishment for the idiots of Europe of the time. It gives Europe a humbling lesson for all of these centuries where they thought of themselves as the "superior" race and were going about on their crusades to colonize the world.
P.S. One more thing I will clarify for you - I looked up Sarkozy. He had a Greek Jewish grandfather who converted to Catholicism. He is therefore not a Jew because according to the Jewish religion, the mother needs to be a Jew for the child to be a Jew. It is the opposite of Islam, in case you didn't know. (Note: for someone who was inculcated by moral instructions from the Jews, I am surprised that you didn't know this detail because even I knew this and I certainly wasn't inculcated by any Jew.) Also, Sarkozy is long gone from politics. In France, it is now Emmanuel Macron who leads the country, FYI. You are very late in your news. I hope you are learning a few things today in that thick, thick head of yours.
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Not true. It is well known that the genetic differences within two members of the same race are often greater than the genetic difference between the average of two races. Read this article (actual science): https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1893020/
It's the kind of pseudo-scientific leftist-funded pro-race-mixing Jewish propaganda I totally ignore. If you want to insist it's "true", then speak for your OWN race, don't speak for MINE. Keep MINE out of it. You and your Jewish allies have NOT been able to use any members of my race as laboratories guinea pigs to do your "scientific tests". Why? Because we haven't been cooperative to participate in your "scientific studies", THAT'S why. Your "science" therefore DOESN'T apply to MY race. Anyway, if there WAS actually hypothetically "greater genetic differences" between "some" members of my own race than members of different races, then all such members of my own race that were more genetically further apart to the rest of us than members of a completely different race would therefore also show closer physical resemblances to the foreign race than to the remaining members of our own race! But certainly that has never been the case with us. The further genetically you get away it displays more and more in the physical appearance. Therefore, if a Viking had more in common genetically with a pygmy than another Viking then he would look much closer to the pygmy than the other Viking. It's a no brainer, dude.
Besides. if you were paying more attention you would have noticed that I wasn't talking about genetic differences anyway, I was talking only of morphological differences. The two of course are interrelated as genetics themselves actually determine physical morphology.
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The Jews "conquested" Europe since the end of WWII? Well, all I have to say is that for a group of people who were being sent to the gas chambers, they came back with a vengeance if your conspiracy theory were true.
Many European Jews were destroyed, but it was mainly the Bolshevik Jews from the Soviet Union and the Jews from England and the USA that "came back with a vengeance" and conquered Germany and took over the rest of Europe, rather than the Jews in Germany itself.
format_quote Originally Posted by fromelsewhere
Frankly, if this were (hypothetically-speaking) the case, I think it would be a good punishment for the idiots of Europe of the time. It gives Europe a humbling lesson for all of these centuries where they thought of themselves as the "superior" race and were going about on their crusades to colonize the world.
The Nazis were a warning to foreign races to get out of the Northern European lands. White nationalists are a kind of sleeping giant. Next time you foreigners take us to breaking point we and our legions will be TEN times worse to you than the Nazis were. Things will get VERY bad, and we will be so ruthless and unforgiving and destruction will be everywhere. The Nazis will end up looking like girl scouts in comparison to what will happen next time we decide we've had ENOUGH! History has a habit of repeating, and often those repeats become amplified several times more than previously. All your Jewish money WON'T protect you either once we get nasty.
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P.S. One more thing I will clarify for you - I looked up Sarkozy. He had a Greek Jewish grandfather who converted to Catholicism. He is therefore not a Jew because according to the Jewish religion, the mother needs to be a Jew for the child to be a Jew. It is the opposite of Islam, in case you didn't know. (Note: for someone who was inculcated by moral instructions from the Jews, I am surprised that you didn't know this detail because even I knew this and I certainly wasn't inculcated by any Jew.) Also, Sarkozy is long gone from politics.
Not even Jews, you say? In any case, Sarkozy and Hollande nonetheless most certainly look like stereotypical Jews you would have seen in Nazi propaganda posters, and just in case your were unaware, many Jews are known to masquerade as either being atheists or "converts" to some other religion. Crypto Jews even infiltrated the Catholic Church. The pope himself, an "ex-communist", is really a Jew too...again, he is one with that stereotypical Jewish face.
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In France, it is now Emmanuel Macron who leads the country, FYI. You are very late in your news. I hope you are learning a few things today in that thick, thick head of yours.
Macron, is yet another Jew (mongrel half caste), an agent in league with the Rothschild demonic secret plan for a Totalitarian Jew World Order.
@Karl , whoah! On top of being crazy, you are quite paranoid! Now tell me this: how do I know that YOU are not one of the billion of "evil" Jews out there?
P.S. # 1: I love how everybody you disagree with is a "Jew".
Don´t forget also feminists and Marxists. They are quite common enemies too - I think many of us have been already labeled as those.
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