According of many human right activists whose have reported about worsening human right situation in this "democracy", I think there are some other people whose should shame.
By the way, I am 50. About discussing in this forum, I am your sister in Islam, not just some "herb". Some respect there now.
From Occupied Palestine:
We have suffered too much for too long. We will not accept apartheid masked as peace. We will settle for no less than our freedom.
Re: Turks shooting at civilians that are on Syrian territory
format_quote Originally Posted by sister herb
According of many human right activists whose have reported about worsening human right situation in this "democracy", I think there are some other people whose should shame.
By the way, I am 50. About discussing in this forum, I am your sister in Islam, not just some "herb". Some respect there now.
you defames a muslim elected leader! thats all about you. you just read and watch non muslim hypocrite western and money based so called human right blah blah.
watch this islamic scholar from uk and originally from palestine!
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Re: Turks shooting at civilians that are on Syrian territory
format_quote Originally Posted by ebubekir01
you defames a muslim elected leader! thats all about you. you just read and watch non muslim hypocrite western and money based so called human right blah blah.
watch this islamic scholar from uk and originally from palestine!
HAHAHAHAH, i thought there was something fishy about it. I did not read "Palestine" before. *kuch*..*kuch*..Muslim brotherhood..*kuch*..*kuch*. Just like how pro-Erdogan Yusuf al-Qaradawi is. Now branded as a terrorist and even kicked out of many Muslim organizations around the world. I am seriously Laughing Out Loud.
In other words "Sony says Sony-products are the best"
If i am not mistaken there is a hadith about the Islamic scholars in the end times they being the most despicable among men. Now a days many Muslims have held scholars in such a high regard, while not really listening and analyzing what they are saying. " OOh you are a Islamic scholar? well then you have absolutely NO hidden agenda"-mentality of Muslims these days =_=!.
While the attitude of a Muslim must be, listen to what a scholar says. Do not follow blindly, really listen. If they are defending somebody that based on Islamic logic, rationality and reason doesn't really follow Islam whatsoever, that means take a few steps away from that scholar. But i guess people like you..just blindly follow as they praise your big hero..Erdogan.
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Re: Turks shooting at civilians that are on Syrian territory
format_quote Originally Posted by Shahi
Allah give punishment even to a shaheed .
That is not true. Do not say things you are not sure of.
It was reported in the hadeeth of al-Miqdaam ibn Ma’di Karb that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
“The martyr (shaheed) has seven blessings from Allaah: he is forgiven from the moment his blood is first shed; he will be shown his place in Paradise; he will be spared the trial of the grave; and he will be secure on the Day of the Greatest Terror (the Day of Judgement); there will be placed on his head a crown of dignity, one ruby of which is better than this world and all that is in it; he will be married to seventy-two of al-hoor al-‘iyn; and he will be permitted to intercede for seventy of his relatives.”
Re: Turks shooting at civilians that are on Syrian territory
If this discussion continues to descend into insults and arguments then it will be closed. Particularly because we are now in the most blessed of days so how can we waste even a second on that which will be of no benefit but instead cause more harm than good?
We talk as though we know what is really going on with regards to political matters in our respective countries or any where in the world but the truth and reality is we don't.
So let us not waste our valuable time on that which will not benefit us but cause more harm than good and waste our valuable time during these blessed days and nights.
Can you now understand how Turks bring up the whole PKK debate as..."We hate PKK, but we don't hate Kurds". Now is my logical, rational and reasonable question..what HAS Barzani (PDK) to do with PKK? They hate one another as in the past they even have fought against each other. However when i hear such things from such Turks, this is rather a wake up call to me that it has NOTHING to do with PKK, but they HATE Kurds. Which automatically includes me as i am a Kurd. The Turks fight for the Turkmen in Kirkuk, however when Kurds say what about Kurds in modern day south-east Turkey to Turks..then suddenly Kurds must keep their mouth shut. Isn't this hypocrisy? Isn't this a clear sign that these people have absolutely NOTHING to do with Islam and killing such people that show such level of hypocrisy is rather permissible according Islamic view. That is why even if a Kurd fighting along side PKK dies at the hands of the Turkish soldier, to me he is rather a martyr.
I do not look at ooh that one is a "Muslim" and that one is a "non-Muslim". I see two groups. One is fighting oppression according to Islamic perspective and the other is oppressing. No need to bring out the whole ..ooh but he is a Muslim and that other guy isn't. If somebody is a Muslim, he MUST abide by Islamic rulings, there is no excuse to oppress a certain people..be it Muslim or non-Muslim.
Many people THINK that just because they say i am a Muslim, that they automatically will end up in paradise. While there are for example clear hadith that say if one has pride or arrogance the size of a mustard seed he will not enter paradise. If one even thinks about this of having arrogance/pride the size of a mustard seed ...well iblies also believes in Allah, but has arrogance and pride. We all know he will end up in hell fire and will not enter paradise whatsoever.
EDIT: ..yeah..what happened to ..ooh we hate PKK? You see these guys they say we are Muslims, but their actions show something else. Another confirmation they hate Kurds and PKK is just the excuse.
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