Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter
Salaam
format_quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1
Why in medina honestly. Out of all the cities they chose medina.
Yes but then again it makes perfect sense. Globalists have targeted Islam for destruction, and what a better way to start than to defile its sacred cities.
Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter
format_quote Originally Posted by azc
Deen is what is in Quran and hadith. Can you prove it from these sources.? No, never. Then why do you claim which isn't proven..?
Well its a sunnah to look good. I mean fashion and expressing yourself isnt haram if done in a wrong way. I mean a fashion show today seeks to promote the sellers clothing, correct? Not to promote haram etc.( ofc im talking a halal fashion show with halal clothes)
Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter
format_quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1
Well its a sunnah to look good. I mean fashion and expressing yourself isnt haram if done in a wrong way. I mean a fashion show today seeks to promote the sellers clothing, correct? Not to promote haram etc.( ofc im talking a halal fashion show with halal clothes)
No, fashion show can't be halal. What is halal fashion show? You mean only ladies will be allowed..? Do you know shirk was started in form of sketches which ultimately changed into idols. Today we agree on lesser evil tomorrow we will be agree on bigger evil.
Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter
format_quote Originally Posted by azc
No, fashion show can't be halal. What is halal fashion show? You mean only ladies will be allowed..? Do you know shirk was started in form of sketches which ultimately changed into idols. Today we agree on lesser evil tomorrow we will be agree on bigger evil.
A models job is to show clothes. No one worships models. And yes im talking gender segregated mens ones and womens ones.
Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter
format_quote Originally Posted by azc
Deen is what is in Quran and hadith. Can you prove it from these sources.? No, never. Then why do you claim which isn't proven..?
With this logic, you can deem cars and their advertisements to be haram, Computers, Restaurants, Air Conditioning and much more ... All of these things were never mentioned in Quran or Sunna ... Doesnt make them haram. Whats haram is us using it in the haram or to promote whats haram. The bases of all things is that they are halal except that which Allah has clearly forbidden in his Book and the Sunna. And those things that are debatable in islam, we should avoid, and if you see people doing any of the shubuhaat then u should advice them against it ... If they dont take your advice you should never force them to as there would be no clear evidence on its prohibition.
In general, things that started to exist after islam should all be halal except that which conflicts with the well established rulings of islam. In the case of fashion shows, if the show doesnt include any exposure of awra, sexual enticement, or haram music then it should be fine in general. Unless your telling me there is an explicit saheeh hadith that says fashions shows or anything similar to it is haram
Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter
Assalamu Alaikum,
I don't think the issue is the fashion show itself. There are many events and projects all over the kingdom. It seems the issue is that the fashion show is open to everyone (both men and women) which would deem it a haram event. It isn't clearly stated though, but I wouldn't expect there'd be an issue over a simple fashion show unless there were some things going on there that were deemed unacceptable. Secondly, if indeed it is a fashion show where men and women are attending, it means that not only is there mixing but that women are put on display possibly wearing provocative or revealing clothing, or even just put on display in general for men to critique and watch, and it also probably means there would have been music playing. So I can see where the anger can come from and it's well deserved because there are plenty of other cities where it could have been held or done in a different more acceptable way. Madinah is a very serene and beautiful city with not much going on. People go there mainly for work or worship, so to make this type of event there is like desecrating it's integrity.
Re: Fashion show in Medina sparks Saudi anger on Twitter
format_quote Originally Posted by cinnamonrolls1
A models job is to show clothes. No one worships models. And yes im talking gender segregated mens ones and womens ones.
I know none worship models. It was just an example for accepting lesser evil that entails bigger evil.
format_quote Originally Posted by ChosenTCO
With this logic, you can deem cars and their advertisements to be haram, Computers, Restaurants, Air Conditioning and much more ... All of these things were never mentioned in Quran or Sunna ... Doesnt make them haram. Whats haram is us using it in the haram or to promote whats haram. The bases of all things is that they are halal except that which Allah has clearly forbidden in his Book and the Sunna. And those things that are debatable in islam, we should avoid, and if you see people doing any of the shubuhaat then u should advice them against it ... If they dont take your advice you should never force them to as there would be no clear evidence on its prohibition.
In general, things that started to exist after islam should all be halal except that which conflicts with the well established rulings of islam. In the case of fashion shows, if the show doesnt include any exposure of awra, sexual enticement, or haram music then it should be fine in general. Unless your telling me there is an explicit saheeh hadith that says fashions shows or anything similar to it is haram
He said:
''allah did not deem fashion shows haram''
according to him Allah allows fashion show. He swt didn't deem it haram. (astaghfirullah)
Being it halal must be mentioned either in Quran or hadith.
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