If any christian or athiest on this board still tries to degrade Islam in the manner of accusing it of being horrible religion of hate violence or intolerance watch this video.
AND STILL IF YOU HAVE THE HEART TO ARGUE FURTHER disrespecting Islam,
I will meet you anywhere in New York and i will love for you to attempt to beat me like how they did And you can bring a stick and try to beat me like how they did.
Well those are very nice figures, i wonder what happens when their lawyers appeal for good conduct in prison of these soldiers they will get a mere few years. OH And i forgot to mention i went to a federal Prison, For soldiers its heaven, they get congradulated by other prisoners for being heros except the Sheikhs, and imams think otherwise.
You went to Federal prison? I won't ask.
We will see what happens if and when they appeal.
Ok what women hmmm i think you should read up on this to be honest im not going to search deep in this. But after a friend of mine who was in iraq noted to me that mistreatment of women and how they were beaten, some raped id take his word for it. thats just Me you can think otherwise
So we seem to be at the standard level of proof for some on this website. For the kaffir media, no level of evidence is good enough - the BBC says it? Must be a lie. You hear something from a friend of a friend and you swear it is true. Why would I take his word for it? You mean the word of a man who is patriotically fighting to free his land of colonial oppressors? That would be worth a little lie wouldn't it? The fact is not a single woman has come forward to say she was raped in Abu Ghraib. There is an allegation that an Iraqi detainee saw an Iraqi prison guard rape a woman, but that is, as far as I know, all.
The area has a long history of violence between Muslims and Christians.
'Sadistic and inhuman'
How come you got no articles on what the christians do to the Muslims?
Find me an incident where a Christian, or any believer of any religion apart from Islam, beheads a Muslim and I will mention it. There has been sadistic and inhuman violence in the Celebes and other places like Timor and Papua. But they all tend to have one thing in common - dead Christians. Not dead Muslims.
Oh yeah you help stop these things you stop them right?
Guantamano bay? What happen the media the soldiers OH THATS RIGHT THE SOLDIERS GOT ONLY A FEW MONTHS
Oh These soldiers im sure they will be contragadulated by other prison mates.
Dont give me that trying to justify your way.
The women that are being raped and beaten in Abu ghraib? Thats the western media right there for ya?
OHHH WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!!! your talking about the western media that never showed the bin laden tape where he denied the 9/11 attacks Oh that Media!
Uh oh wait a minute you forgot to add my friend the media that states its true.
First of all you if you live in the west know the Media never gives the true story of things in majority of cases?
Truth is never absolute, you should know that. The best one can ever do is enable equal voice to both sides.
The Media (peace be upon them) work hard to ensure that the Muslim voice is heard. It is difficult to make it heard equally, but no one is trying forcibly to stop anyone from doing so, except maybe governments. There will always be killing. What I am trying to say here is that by putting too much power in governments like the federal government of the US you get things like Guantanamo Bay. (A couple of months imprisonment is better than nothing at this stage.) The same government is currently stopping a third political party (The Greens) from competing in the Senate along with the republicans and democrats. The US needs to be made more democratic than it is. It is absurd that a president who got in by a margin in 2000 has absolute power over US military. There need to be more political parties and the federal elections need to be conducted in a more democratic manner. Those changes will happen.
The power the US government has over its citizens is weak compared to governments in countries with shari'a law where they are able to stop media (peace be upon them) from witnessing violence taken out on innocent people by the government and prevent other people from sharing power through democratic elections.
That guy is a moron and way out of line, just like the soldiers in the vid.
Don't you think it is odd that there are threads devoted for three year old tape from Iraq - which show teenaged rioters being beaten by soldiers but silence over similar or worse incidents in the Muslim world? Take this one for instance. Who heard of this?
Mullah sought after boys flee school in chains
By Massoud Ansari in Karachi
(Filed: 05/02/2006)
Pakistani police have issued an arrest warrant for a mullah at one of the country's Islamic schools after two young pupils claimed to have been beaten up and kept in chains for failing to memorise Koranic scripture.
Mohammad Ammar, eight, and Ahsan Mawia, 10, were found crawling through the streets in shackles in the dead of night after fleeing in terror from a strict school in Karachi. The pair were in a "hysterical state" and showed "visible sign of torture", according to police who examined them.
Don't you think it is odd that there are threads devoted for three year old tape from Iraq - which show teenaged rioters being beaten by soldiers but silence over similar or worse incidents in the Muslim world? Take this one for instance. Who heard of this?
Haven't come across that article until you just posted it now . I'm not one of those who says: "oh every non-muslim is bad, bad, bad and a muslim can do no wrong - if media shows him doing wrong its not the truth" etc. But, you do have to remember that although Islam is a peaceful religion, not every muslim is a peaceful person. I don't agree with that nutcase shackling students - there is NO justification for that action. None.
Someone said to the Prophet, "Pray to God against the idolaters and curse them." The Prophet replied, "I have been sent to show mercy and have not been sent to curse." (Muslim)
is that giving people freedom, by beating little kids??
[PIE]ooohh wait, does this mean that all british troops are like this...OOHH I SEE .....OHHHH BUT WHEN A MUSLIM BOMBS SOMETHING HE REPRESENTS ALL OF ISLAM....OOOHHH II SEEEE ??????[/PIE]
Again, i dont know how many times you have to explain it to this guy
The people disrupt the religion, Islam is Perfect
I have not said a word about, much less against, the religion. Some people here are getting very upset over footage of something done in Iraq by British troops. Fair enough. It sounds brutal. All I did was ask why no one cares about boys treated much worse in Pakistan. Explain that to me.
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Haven't come across that article until you just posted it now . I'm not one of those who says: "oh every non-muslim is bad, bad, bad and a muslim can do no wrong - if media shows him doing wrong its not the truth" etc. But, you do have to remember that although Islam is a peaceful religion, not every muslim is a peaceful person. [/quoite]
Yes. I know. Some Muslim said recently something about whooping peoples butts in the street. I am well aware that not every Muslim is a peaceful person. But that is not the issue. Why is everyone upset about this now when they weren't upset at all, as far as I can see, about that then?
No one is saying every Muslim is bad and every non-Muslim is good. But surely fairness is important here. You think much worse things don't go on in every other Muslim country on the planet? The Egyptian police killed 57 Sudanese refugees the other day. They were not even rioting, but peacefully sitting down in protest against the UNHCR's delay in sending them anywhere else but Egypt. Not a peep of protest from anyone?
So the British soldiers beat some teenagers who were rioting. Bad. But compared to what?
I don't agree with that nutcase shackling students - there is NO justification for that action. None.
And yet he seemed to think it would make them learn the Quran.
You Know What I Think Heigou, As You Can See The Media Plays A Very Very Important Role In This........if You Can See It People Will Get Angry , But If We Havent Heard About It , Then How Would We Know,,,,, Just Like Millions Of Things Going On In The World That Relate To What You Said
ooohh wait, does this mean that all british troops are like this...OOHH I SEE .....OHHHH BUT WHEN A MUSLIM BOMBS SOMETHING HE REPRESENTS ALL OF ISLAM....OOOHHH II SEEEE ?????? <---- YOU UNDERSTAND ME RIGHT
You Know What I Think Heigou, As You Can See The Media Plays A Very Very Important Role In This........if You Can See It People Will Get Angry , But If We Havent Heard About It , Then How Would We Know,,,,, Just Like Millions Of Things Going On In The World That Relate To What You Said
Actually I think pictures play a huge role in it. People do not feel deeply what they cannot see with their own eyes. But the TV makes it more real than reality. Just reading about it does not affect people in the same way.
So I understand why people get so upset, but I still think a little bit of proportion is needed here. Bad things happen. Even in Iraq this is hardly the worst - they find torture chambers run by the Interior Ministry these days.
So the British soldiers beat some teenagers who were rioting. Bad. But compared to what?
Bad compared to what the average human is capable of doing. Sadly, I am dissapointed with certain human actions.
And yet he seemed to think it would make them learn the Quran.
That might have been his intention, but shackling students is disgusting and wrong, ethically and morally.
I'm not saying that certain muslim countries don't perform disgusting actions, no. Nor am I justifying it - I don't care what country or nationality you are: If you kill/injure civilians, in my eyes, you are a walking turd. Perhaps, if more attention was given to these acts from muslim countries then more people would be ranting and raving. Alternatively, we could just be in denial
Someone said to the Prophet, "Pray to God against the idolaters and curse them." The Prophet replied, "I have been sent to show mercy and have not been sent to curse." (Muslim)
Who is the enemy? One minute...its the bad bad bad Iraqi leaders...then it turns against the Americans and British people...why does there always have to be people fighting? Why can't this world be civilized and not be so negative and hurtful and wrong! I'm an American, hate me as you please...but I don't...I don't like what I saw on that tape...those men who beat those kids should be punished...it was wrong and I'm sorry that those soldiers hurt those people...those people are not only close to you by religion...but I feel they are close to me in a way too- in heart...we can't be against each other when we need to bring all cultures and religions together to stop violence all together.
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. I'm not one of those who says: "oh every non-muslim is bad, bad, bad and a muslim can do no wrong - if media shows him doing wrong its not the truth" etc. But, you do have to remember that although Islam is a peaceful religion, not every muslim is a peaceful person. I don't agree with that nutcase shackling students - there is NO justification for that action. None.
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