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    If any christian or athiest on this board still tries to degrade Islam in the manner of accusing it of being horrible religion of hate violence or intolerance watch this video.

    AND STILL IF YOU HAVE THE HEART TO ARGUE FURTHER disrespecting Islam,

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    Re: UK troops brutally abuse Iraqi teens

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    format_quote Originally Posted by cihad View Post
    Its Funny

    When A Muslim Kills Abuses Or Does Anything Like That They Are An Islamic Terrorist

    When A Christian Or Jew Or Buddist Or Whatever Does The Same
    Their Religion Is Never Mentioned

    I Mean They Didn't Say Christian/jewish Troops Beat Up Children ,did They?

    But If They Were Muslim...islamic Terrorist!!
    Actually in the vast majority of cases if Muslims abuse anyone, no one cares. It is perhaps a lingering legacy of racism and colonialism. You can see this in the news. If Muslims kill other Muslims, no one cares. Not even most Muslims to be honest - look at how much time this BB spends on "hot button" issues like Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan and how little it spends on Sudan or Algeria. Partly this is probably because there is a lack of good TV footage of such crimes, but mostly it is probably that Western people do not care much.

    When Muslims abuse First World people, then the West cares. A lot. But the reasons for that are invariably political, which is to say, these days, religious. If Islamist radicals kill tourists in Egypt, it is because they are Islamist radicals not because they are Egyptians or Africans or whatever. It makes sense to discuss Islamist violence in terms of the justification the terrorists use - and they use Islam as an excuse. What other term would you use to describe them?

    I would be interested to know of any Buddhist terrorists anywhere in the world. For that matter I would be interested to know of any Christian terrorists anywhere in the world (although there are some they are so insignificant I doubt anyone can think of one offhand). What there have been in the recent past is Marxist-Leninist Terrorists. Some people used to be Christians, and then became Marxist-Leninists and terrorists. They are usually describes for exactly what they are. The IRA is invariably called "Republican" because that is what justifies their violence. The PLO used to be called a Arab Socialist or Marxist-Leninist group because that is what they were. The DFLP even more so. Hamas is called an Islamist group because that is what they are.

    Soldiers who are Christians or Jews do beat up children. We all know that. But they do not do so because they are Christian or Jewish. They do so because they are keeping law and order or because they are Zionists. What counts is what motivates them. Not what they are on Sundays. If a terrorist is motivated by his interpretation of Islam - no matter how wrong you may think that interpretation is - what else would you call him?
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    Re: UK troops brutally abuse Iraqi teens

    format_quote Originally Posted by HeiGou View Post
    Soldiers who are Christians or Jews do beat up children. We all know that. But they do not do so because they are Christian or Jewish. They do so because they are keeping law and order or because they are Zionists. What counts is what motivates them. Not what they are on Sundays.
    Same could be said about muslim soldiers, no?

    If a terrorist is motivated by his interpretation of Islam - no matter how wrong you may think that interpretation is - what else would you call him?
    What about the KKK, surely they fit in the same category.
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    Re: UK troops brutally abuse Iraqi teens

    I would not call the men who were attacked children. There are men, maybe young men but still adults. Although it still doesn’t make it right.
    The fact that a lot of people were/are saying that the troops were beating children just goes to show that this war is turning into a propaganda war.
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    format_quote Originally Posted by j4763 View Post
    I would not call the men who were attacked children. There are men, maybe young men but still adults. Although it still doesn’t make it right.
    The fact that a lot of people were/are saying that the troops were beating children just goes to show that this war is turning into a propaganda war.
    Most wars are propaganda.
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    Re: UK troops brutally abuse Iraqi teens

    format_quote Originally Posted by aamirsaab View Post
    Same could be said about muslim soldiers, no?
    For some soldiers who happen to be Muslims, sure. But some soldiers are not just soldiers who happen to be Muslims, they are Muslim soldiers. Their cause and motivation is Islam. I assume some of them beat up children too in some circumstances.

    What about the KKK, surely they fit in the same category.

    Well not these days. But at one time they would have seen what they were doing in religious terms.
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    Re: UK troops brutally abuse Iraqi teens

    Speaking of wars propaganda , EVERY WAR BASICALLY is almost propoganda

    Pearl harbor If the united states never had that attack the economy would of been much worse to lead them out the depression

    9/11 perfect excuse to invade muslim countries for oil money and above all DEMOCRACY!
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    Re: UK troops brutally abuse Iraqi teens

    format_quote Originally Posted by mahdisoldier19 View Post
    9/11 perfect excuse to invade muslim countries for oil money and above all DEMOCRACY!

    So how do you figure 9/11 "really" went down. Lets have your best conspiracy theory. I think I know how this is gonna go, but give it to us, anyway. The more twisted, the better !!
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    Re: UK troops brutally abuse Iraqi teens

    Salam Alaikam

    Peace and blessings upon you,

    the more twisted?

    First lets take into consideratin what a theory is.

    A theory is a probable explanation in the persons perspective supported by evidence that can be proven wrong or right.

    It has been established evidence that 9/11 may have had Controversial Issues. If you watch the loose change 9/11 second edition video. I will point out to how to go it simply video.google.com then type in Loose change 9/11. Then choose the second edition loose change 9/11 . And you will get your story. Considering im from NYC alot of firefighters have died and have experience, and when hearing from their perspective what happened. I dont think anyone is lieing here.

    Do you?
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    Dude. You got to be kidding me ? That waste of cellulose has been discredited a million times over. See what I'm saying about conspiracy theories on this site ? Some people just can't get enough.
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    Re: UK troops brutally abuse Iraqi teens

    Hi cihad,
    Its Funny

    When A Muslim Kills Abuses Or Does Anything Like That They Are An Islamic Terrorist

    When A Christian Or Jew Or Buddist Or Whatever Does The Same
    Their Religion Is Never Mentioned

    I Mean They Didn't Say Christian/jewish Troops Beat Up Children ,did They?

    But If They Were Muslim...islamic Terrorist!!
    I would offer a possible explanation to this. Usually when a muslim murders/executes someone for various political/religious reasons, they state who they are and what the cause is. Therefore offering a 'nametag' for the media to snatch for headlines. On the otherhand, it is rare to see other people who murder or oppress others state thier religion or claim responsibility. With soldiers from western countries, it is difficult to assume they are from any religion, because there are many different religions in western countries. Would be a little embarrasing to say 'christian soldiers beat kids" only to find they were sikhs or athiests.
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    Re: UK troops brutally abuse Iraqi teens

    I do agree, Muslim people tend to give it away with the cries of Allahu Akbar before perpetrating a crime.

    At the same time, the person whom sent USA to war, how many bibles did he have lol

    and what did one of the soldiers put on the quran? a cross?

    what did one get pictures with? My God is better than yours?

    I dont care whether they are labelled anything and yep, it sure is harder to tell, since they dont say Allahu Akbar, nor in the Name of Jesus.
    They tend to just laugh and swear in the videos, sure shows their faith aint too strong, IF THEY HAVE ONE.

    but thats life man.

    NO need to label noone after a crime, unless that person makes it clear that he done it for a reason.

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